Questions & Mysteries Why people thought Zolo is captain?

Is being stronger = being captain common perception of One Piece world?


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#61
I see ZKKclown got mad and wrote an essay to reply :gokulaugh: Writing an essay won't make ZKK real.
Me ZKKclown? LMFAO.. you have no idea. I was always on the 50/50 regarding that theory. The moment Zoro scarred Kaido i have kept saying there is no way for ZKK to happen again and since Nika came out i denied the theory all together. Now relax Shanks Tard :willight:

This guy says essay... its a common trick to start with an insult in a reply you can't debunk just to pat yourself on the back.

Anyways i broke down all the details for you. Which is something you can't do yourself. You have to repeat your baseless points with nothing to show for proof.

Could Zolo accomplish his Rooftop feats without Enma, fire cutting and Law's teleportation? Nope. Its that simple, you arguing that Post-TS Zolo was stronger than Post-TS Luffy due to Rooftop feats which he did only due to recent power ups is a retarded argument.
Are you dumb?

1st of all how is Law's teleportation related to Enma power up? Second ZORO's Strength never changed since the TS. Without Enma he wouldn't make Kaido bleed or scar him. But him tanking that Hakai has nothing to do with Enma.

In the end, Zolo achieved nothing but 30 broken bones and couldn't return to the battle without the help of Law, and then Sanji carrying him, then Marco saving him, then Mink Medicine healing him. He turned into a complete hindrance to others because he wanted to try Enma vs Kaido.
Ok and that is related to his Strength how exactly?

Luffy beat Dof, Cracker, Katakuri. Meanwhile without Enma power up Zolo took help from Orlumbus to beat Pica, fought against Nerfed Killer and Hawkins, these are not comparable at all, Dressrosa Luffy would beat Pre-Enma Zolo, and WCI Luffy would Pre-Enma easily, it wouldn't even be close. Zolo's best feat is extreme-diff winning vs Alber, who is around Katakuri level. Luffy already accomplished that feat in WCI. Right now Zolo isn't even stronger than WCI Luffy, you are trully retarded if you believe Post-TS Zolo was stronger than Post-TS Luffy.
So Zoro needed Enma to beat Pica? and without it he can't beat nerfed Killer.

Dude do you even hear yourself ? LOL

Nerfed Killer = One of Zoro's Strongest Tech are 1 Sword Styles so Zoro wasn't trully nerfed + his Physical Strength kept Killer from taking his weapon from his shoulder.

Zolo blocked Hakai for only few seconds, they escaped and attack landed. Zolo got 30 broken bones, and was the only one who was KOed on Rooftop as a result of that, needed Mink Medicine to continue. Zolo needed Orlumbus and Law's teleportation to accomplish his feats, Luffy doesn't need that, he is a lot faster.
LMFAAAAO... Yoo stop repeating yourself. Why teleporting = Power for you?? LMAO


Luffy took more attacks from Kaido, compared to blocking Hakai for few seconds, Luffy showed much better durability than Zolo, and already better speed, only their attack power are close.

Rooftop Zolo was getting low-diffed by Alber who is around Katakuri level, WCI Luffy already surpassed that level.

Post-TS Luffy > Post-TS Zolo (Zolo admitted in Fishman island and vs Pica).
Even WCI Luffy > Rooftop Zolo by Alber/Katakuri scaling.
That damage that Luffy accumulated overtime "Could end up the same as taking few seconds of hakai" which is fine. As i said they are comparable until G4 AdvCoC and Nika came into play.

Katakuri and King are not the same fighter. Katakuri is more technical than a brute force like King. Sanji did better than Luffy against Kat until Luffy managed to upgrade his CoO so relax there. But King is someone Luffy is struggling against his kids now. Luffy can beat King 100% but not as easily as he can beat Katakuri in terms of Powers.

So again you still couldn't bring up any meaningful point here just on repeat mode.

Zoro's Strength without Enma KEPT him going after Hakai. Hakai is several leagues above anything Luffy can dish out before his training in Udon.

Luffy's was knocked out by Thunder Bagua and was out cold until we saw him in Udon.

How is that hard to comprehend ? LMAO.

in terms of AP without ENMA Zoro has 0 chance against Kaido. Without Training Luffy has 0 Chance against Kaido.

SO when i say Zoro was stronger than Luffy for the majority of TS i mean Zoro Physically Ready. Call it power creep blabla we had no proof until we finally saw Zoro pushed.

Zolo himself admitted in Fishman Island, Luffy > him, they can use CoO Haki to sense power levels.

Ok they can sense his Power Levels then why didn't they comment on his actual Power not his CoC?

I am not gonna deny what they are saying here. But Zoro is a competitive guy why smirk and only comment about his CoC. Just look at the facts and stop repeating yourself give me something solid here.
 
#63
Me ZKKclown? LMFAO.. you have no idea. I was always on the 50/50 regarding that theory. The moment Zoro scarred Kaido i have kept saying there is no way for ZKK to happen again and since Nika came out i denied the theory all together. Now relax Shanks Tard :willight:

This guy says essay... its a common trick to start with an insult in a reply you can't debunk just to pat yourself on the back.

Anyways i broke down all the details for you. Which is something you can't do yourself. You have to repeat your baseless points with nothing to show for proof.


Are you dumb?

1st of all how is Law's teleportation related to Enma power up? Second ZORO's Strength never changed since the TS.
Yes you are absolutely dumb because you think Zolo didn't get any stronger when they say they grow stronger with every island they visit, this is Zolo's own words:










Zolo's own words you dumb clown. Post-Dressrosa Zolo > Fishman Island Zolo. :HoldThisL:

Without Enma he wouldn't make Kaido bleed or scar him. But him tanking that Hakai has nothing to do with Enma.
He sacrificed 30 bones to delay Hakai for few seconds, Hakai still went to its destination and Zolo end up with 30 broken bones, he didn't even stopped it completely in exchange for 30 broken bones. Honestly you are dumb for believing this feat puts Zolo on Luffy level let alone superior lmao

If you think Luffy couldn't do even better than that when he sacrifices his health, you are retarded.

Its really dumb for you to believe Zolo was stronger based on fanfic Hakai feat lmao.

:HoldThisL::BigW:

So Zoro needed Enma to beat Pica? and without it he can't beat nerfed Killer.

Dude do you even hear yourself ? LOL

Nerfed Killer = One of Zoro's Strongest Tech are 1 Sword Styles so Zoro wasn't trully nerfed + his Physical Strength kept Killer from taking his weapon from his shoulder.


LMFAAAAO... Yoo stop repeating yourself. Why teleporting = Power for you?? LMAO



That damage that Luffy accumulated overtime "Could end up the same as taking few seconds of hakai" which is fine. As i said they are comparable until G4 AdvCoC and Nika came into play.

Katakuri and King are not the same fighter. Katakuri is more technical than a brute force like King. Sanji did better than Luffy against Kat until Luffy managed to upgrade his CoO so relax there. But King is someone Luffy is struggling against his kids now. Luffy can beat King 100% but not as easily as he can beat Katakuri in terms of Powers.

So again you still couldn't bring up any meaningful point here just on repeat mode.

Zoro's Strength without Enma KEPT him going after Hakai. Hakai is several leagues above anything Luffy can dish out before his training in Udon.

Luffy's was knocked out by Thunder Bagua and was out cold until we saw him in Udon.

How is that hard to comprehend ? LMAO.

in terms of AP without ENMA Zoro has 0 chance against Kaido. Without Training Luffy has 0 Chance against Kaido.

SO when i say Zoro was stronger than Luffy for the majority of TS i mean Zoro Physically Ready. Call it power creep blabla we had no proof until we finally saw Zoro pushed.
Zolo's speed or his range isn't on Luffy's level, thus needed Orlumbus's speed boost.
As well as Zolo needed Law's speed boost later to counter Kaido's attack. Its that simple, thats an advantage Luffy will always have over Zolo.

Zolo was heavily wounded after Nerfed Killer's attack, you compare that to Kaido's attacks? Lmao. Luffy took more attacks from Kaido on Rooftop and still kept fighting without needing Mink Medicine.

Look at this clown how he struggles to not admit Alber and Katakuri are same levels.

WCI Luffy already accomplished a better feat than Wano Zolo's defeating Alber feat.

WCI Luffy first defeated Cracker, then Katakuri, thats better than defeating Alber only.

WCI Luffy and current Zolo are comparable, their bounties also suggests this, Luffy is 1.5 billion after defeating Cracker and Katakuri, Zolo is 1.1 billion after defeating Alber.

If you are going to make excuse about Luffy being captain, there is extra bounty boost for Zolo for being an underling:



Too many Ls for you :HoldThisL::steef:

Ok they can sense his Power Levels then why didn't they comment on his actual Power not his CoC?

I am not gonna deny what they are saying here. But Zoro is a competitive guy why smirk and only comment about his CoC. Just look at the facts and stop repeating yourself give me something solid here.
Zolo didn't say anything about CoC, that was Sanji, read again:



Do Zolo expect his captain to use CoC Haki to KO 50.000 fodders or he expect his captain to be stronger overall? Its simple what he meant here.

Same as what he meant here;



Dressrosa Luffy is stronger so Dressrosa Zolo takes the weaker opponent Pica. Zolo himself admits this. You have no argument.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#66
Yes you are absolutely dumb because you think Zolo didn't get any stronger when they say they grow stronger with every island they visit
Words need to match with actions for words to be true, I told you this already. :milaugh:
Tell us what changed about Luffy going from DR and fighting Doffy to WCI and fighting Cracker.
I want specific improvements in strength. Can you provide anything other than headcanon?
 
#67


Even amongst blood relatives BM Pirates: Being stronger = being captain.







Zolo's power impresses people, then they think ''why Zolo isn't captain''.

Simply because they think Zolo is strongest of his crew, he should be the captain. In One Piece world there is a direct correlation between power and being captain.

So why some people are denying this simple fact that the common accepted perception of One Piece world? Explain.
Shiryu will never be mistaken for a captain, dude. :mihanha:
 
#68
Yes you are absolutely dumb because you think Zolo didn't get any stronger when they say they grow stronger with every island they visit, this is Zolo's own words:










Zolo's own words you dumb clown. Post-Dressrosa Zolo > Fishman Island Zolo. :HoldThisL:
LMFAAAO... This applies only to Luffy for the TS because only Luffy was put in extreme fights. The only Extreme Fight Zoro has been before Wano was him trying to fight Fujitora. How in the hells did he get stronger from those fights?

The dumb level is huge here.

You see Sanji during his wedding? He dodged Katakuri which is something Luffy had to go 12 hours in order to match that. What does that mean for you? Sanji was already at that level of CoO.

getting surprised diffed by yeti cool brothers LMAO how low can you go to find something worth mentioning.


He sacrificed 30 bones to delay Hakai for few seconds, Hakai still went to its destination and Zolo end up with 30 broken bones, he didn't even stopped it completely in exchange for 30 broken bones. Honestly you are dumb for believing this feat puts Zolo on Luffy level let alone superior lmao

If you think Luffy couldn't do even better than that when he sacrifices his health, you are retarded.

Its really dumb for you to believe Zolo was stronger based on fanfic Hakai feat lmao.

:HoldThisL::BigW:
Its pretty simple. Let me help your tiny brain here. If anyone takes Hakai head on fully from the Rooftop 5 they will die. Mr See the Future Luffy saw it happening. So it safe to assume that getting hit by that even for few seconds is superior to Thunder Bagua.

Luffy getting KOed by Thunder Bagua in G4 and failing to damage Kaido.
Zoro surviving Hakai means he could survive G4 attacks. At least multiple hits.

So that puts Zoro's Strength on Par with G4 Luffy before his training and AdvCoC and Nika dwarves Zoro.

Write an intelligent answer buddy don't just say omg Look Sanji cracked his leg by hitting Vergo.. DUDE WHAT ? LOL


Zolo's speed or his range isn't on Luffy's level, thus needed Orlumbus's speed boost.
As well as Zolo needed Law's speed boost later to counter Kaido's attack. Its that simple, thats an advantage Luffy will always have over Zolo.

Zolo was heavily wounded after Nerfed Killer's attack, you compare that to Kaido's attacks? Lmao. Luffy took more attacks from Kaido on Rooftop and still kept fighting without needing Mink Medicine.

Look at this clown how he struggles to not admit Alber and Katakuri are same levels.

WCI Luffy already accomplished a better feat than Wano Zolo's defeating Alber feat.

WCI Luffy first defeated Cracker, then Katakuri, thats better than defeating Alber only.

WCI Luffy and current Zolo are comparable, their bounties also suggests this, Luffy is 1.5 billion after defeating Cracker and Katakuri, Zolo is 1.1 billion after defeating Alber.

If you are going to make excuse about Luffy being captain, there is extra bounty boost for Zolo for being an underling:



Too many Ls for you :HoldThisL::steef:
Ok but Sanji is faster than both Luffy and Zoro. Does that make him stronger than them? debunked

Zoro was heavily wounded because he was caught off guard ofc he will be wounded... Apoo has knocked out Luffy.. So... by that logic Apoo is above Kaido? Comon be real this is one piece not DBZ.. Someone like Kinemon made Kaido bleed take a break with these bullshit points you throwing around.

Mink Medicine... This whole plot line was added just to make it clear that Hakai wasn't something scuff at. You bet your ass if anyone took that damage would get that medicine too. I don't get why this is a negative thing for Zoro..

Luffy beating Cracker thanks to Nami's intervention and beating Kata fair and square wasn't enough for Luffy to be ready for Wano. Zoro was already Physically ready for Alber all he needed was the Enma boost and haki bloom. Which was the only time during the TS Zoro was finally pushed to his limit. Sooo why don't you argue that instead of "omg Zoro broken 30 bones hahahaha" ...

So now we go Bounties... Ok why didn't they give Zoro a bounty higher than King? Luffy as Captian his bounty will always be greater because his total bounty does not mean only his danger threat its also means he is hard to get because he has a crew.



Zolo didn't say anything about CoC, that was Sanji, read again:



Do Zolo expect his captain to use CoC Haki to KO 50.000 fodders or he expect his captain to be stronger overall? Its simple what he meant here.

Same as what he meant here;



Dressrosa Luffy is stronger so Dressrosa Zolo takes the weaker opponent Pica. Zolo himself admits this. You have no argument.
What do you mean Zoro didn't mean his CoC... Everyone was talking about Luffy's CoC.. They came from the TS and that was the only compliment Zoro gave to Luffy beside shouting at him to be serious.

Ok the same thing here in Dressrosa Zoro thinks Pica is beneath Luffy so as his underling he wouldnt want Luffy to fight such a weakling.

And ofc Zoro wishes for Luffy to be that high as his Captain but their actions speaks volumes. What we have seen during the TS speaks for it self you cannot deny that.

Give me something that support your claims here or stop replying to me with these "hahaha omg wounded broken bones" because everyone can bring up Luffy's histories of Ls taking by minor characters too.
 
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LMFAAAO... This applies only to Luffy for the TS because only Luffy was put in extreme fights. The only Extreme Fight Zoro has been before Wano was him trying to fight Fujitora. How in the hells did he get stronger from those fights?

The dumb level is huge here.

You see Sanji during his wedding? He dodged Katakuri which is something Luffy had to go 12 hours in order to match that. What does that mean for you? Sanji was already at that level of CoO.

getting surprised diff
Lmao Sanji wasn't at Luffy's CoO level, dodging 1 attack isn't equal to dodging many attacks from Katakuri, Luffy has better feat. You dumb af like ZKKclowns.

Zolo got KOed by Yeti Cool Brothers and Nerfed Killer. He had extreme diff fight as well not only Luffy, debunked easy. :HoldThisL:

Its pretty simple. Let me help your tiny brain here. If anyone takes Hakai head on fully from the Rooftop 5 they will die. Mr See the Future Luffy saw it happening. So it safe to assume that getting hit by that even for few seconds is superior to Thunder Bagua.

Luffy getting KOed by Thunder Bagua in G4 and failing to damage Kaido.
Zoro surviving Hakai means he could survive G4 attacks. At least multiple hits.

So that puts Zoro's Strength on Par with G4 Luffy before his training and AdvCoC and Nika dwarves Zoro.

Write an intelligent answer buddy don't just say omg Look Sanji cracked his leg by hitting Vergo.. DUDE WHAT ? LOL

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Baseless ZKK level wank.

Zolo just delayed Hakai for few seconds and got his 30 bones broken. Hakai went to its destination, was still moving, Zolo didn't take Hakai, Law teleported Zolo after others escaped. Hakai was still moved and Zolo got his bones broken in return.

If you think Luffy couldn't delay Hakai, then Hakai kept moving, and get himself heavily wounded in return for just delaying it few seconds you are extremely retarded lmao. How anyone would think this Hakai feat mean anything and even use this to compare it with Luffy? :gokulaugh: ZKK level dumb mentality.


Ok but Sanji is faster than both Luffy and Zoro. Does that make him stronger than them? debunked

Zoro was heavily wounded because he was caught off guard ofc he will be wounded... Apoo has knocked out Luffy.. So... by that logic Apoo is above Kaido? Comon be real this is one piece not DBZ.. Someone like Kinemon made Kaido bleed take a break with these bullshit points you throwing around.

Mink Medicine... This whole plot line was added just to make it clear that Hakai wasn't something scuff at. You bet your ass if anyone took that damage would get that medicine too. I don't get why this is a negative thing for Zoro..

Luffy beating Cracker thanks to Nami's intervention and beating Kata fair and square wasn't enough for Luffy to be ready for Wano. Zoro was already Physically ready for Alber all he needed was the Enma boost and haki bloom. Which was the only time during the TS Zoro was finally pushed to his limit. Sooo why don't you argue that instead of "omg Zoro broken 30 bones hahahaha" ...

So now we go Bounties... Ok why didn't they give Zoro a bounty higher than King? Luffy as Captian his bounty will always be greater because his total bounty does not mean only his danger threat its also means he is hard to get because he has a crew.
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Sanji isn't faster than Luffy you dumbass lmao. Debunked easy again.

Stop crying, its over. Even WCI Luffy beat someone on Alber level (Katakuri), Wano Zolo after several powerups with Enma and Ad.CoC having extreme-diff to beat Alber proves Dressrosa Luffy > Dressrosa Zolo by a big margin. Luffy was always a lot more stronger than Zolo. Zolo himself admitted it in Fishman Island and vs Pica.

What do you mean Zoro didn't mean his CoC... Everyone was talking about Luffy's CoC.. They came from the TS and that was the only compliment Zoro gave to Luffy beside shouting at him to be serious.

Ok the same thing here in Dressrosa Zoro thinks Pica is beneath Luffy so as his underling he wouldnt want Luffy to fight such a weakling.

And ofc Zoro wishes for Luffy to be that high as his Captain but their actions speaks volumes. What we have seen during the TS speaks for it self you cannot deny that.

Give me something that support your claims here or stop replying to me with these "hahaha omg wounded broken bones" because everyone can bring up Luffy's histories of Ls taking by minor characters too.
Who is everyone clown? Sanji talk about CoC, Zolo didn't. Zolo was talking about general power level.

You think Zolo just wants his captain to KO 50.00 fodders with CoC or just wants his captain to be stronger overall?

Stop being extremely retarded like ZKK.

Zolo admits he isn't equal to his captain so he says Pica can't fight Luffy but Pica needs to fight Zolo instead. Zolo himself admits they are not equals, Dressrosa Luffy > Dressrosa Zolo confirmed once again by Zolo's own words, but Zolo's retarded fans are so stupid they are even denying Zolo's own words lmao, truly ZKK level delusion.
 
#71
Yes, a captain will always be the strongest. In a pirate crew, the hierarchy is determined through power and strength. And even though Luffy is a goofball, he has the willpower and ambition. Zoro out of all people who takes pride in his strength wouldn't follow a guy weaker than himself. And now with Luffy basically being Jesus, doors are open for the power creep.
 
#72
Lmao Sanji wasn't at Luffy's CoO level, dodging 1 attack isn't equal to dodging many attacks from Katakuri, Luffy has better feat. You dumb af like ZKKclowns.

Zolo got KOed by Yeti Cool Brothers and Nerfed Killer. He had extreme diff fight as well not only Luffy, debunked easy. :HoldThisL:
Wow i am gonna ask.. how old are you exactly? what kind of writing level is this..

"haha no sanji isn't on luffy level of CoO" debunked ez... where is the argument here? LOOOOL

"Zolo got KOed by Yeti Cool brothers you suck hahahah" do i have to change your diapers too? LMAO go learn how to discuss.

Here is again an argument of why Sanji had better CoO than Luffy you dumbass. That wedding dodge is one instance in Onigashima Sanji's CoO range turned out to be higher than Luffy. Even Luffy admitted that.

See ? this is how you debunk.

Baseless ZKK level wank.

Zolo just delayed Hakai for few seconds and got his 30 bones broken. Hakai went to its destination, was still moving, Zolo didn't take Hakai, Law teleported Zolo after others escaped. Hakai was still moved and Zolo got his bones broken in return.

If you think Luffy couldn't delay Hakai, then Hakai kept moving, and get himself heavily wounded in return for just delaying it few seconds you are extremely retarded lmao. How anyone would think this Hakai feat mean anything and even use this to compare it with Luffy? :gokulaugh: ZKK level dumb mentality.
Do you even know what baseless means? Everything you wrote is baseless you are just pointing out that this and that happened but its the same point i am pointing out to you LMAO... By saying Zoro delayed hakai or me saying he blocked it for few seconds its all the same..

WTF are you saying here xDDD... you can't even troll right. At least those who made ZKK have crafted something that made kinda sense look at what you are writing. Its like reading from an 8 year old notebook.

How can we compare it to Luffy. LMFAO. its Basic knowledge dumbo IF Luffy got knocked out by 1 Yonkou Attack And Zoro Survived a Combined attack by 2 Yonkou. Its pretty clear that Zoro can survive any G4 attacks. Hence that made him Physical Stronger than pre Wano Luffy.

Now go ahead write it again "30 broken bones muhahaha" :suresure:


Sanji isn't faster than Luffy you dumbass lmao. Debunked easy again.
Ok? Thats just headcannon.. Tell me of an instance where that is proven wrong.. give me a proof of Luffy being faster than Sanji..

Ok i will copy your stupid reply : Luffy isn't faster than Sanji. Debunked Easy again. :steef:

Stop crying, its over. Even WCI Luffy beat someone on Alber level (Katakuri), Wano Zolo after several powerups with Enma and Ad.CoC having extreme-diff to beat Alber proves Dressrosa Luffy > Dressrosa Zolo by a big margin. Luffy was always a lot more stronger than Zolo. Zolo himself admitted it in Fishman Island and vs Pica.
I think you are the one crying here :suresure::suresure: Its pretty obvious by the way you are responding to me.. nothing but "haha i got u now" attitude LMFAO

Zoro got 2 PU in Wano... namely Enma + AdvCoC.. where did several come from?..

WCI Luffy can beat someone on Alber Level ... the denial is real here... G4 post Wano was struggling with King's Kids how in the hell can he beat them if he was at WCI level... How dumb can you get?

What are you even writing here buddy... You are just saying again this and that.. show proof give me something solid write an actual argument... WTF are u saying by Zoro struggling against Kings means Dressrosa Luffy was stronger?? How...

Its simple math dumbass ... Post Wano Luffy was struggling to beat King's Kids easily "he can beat them 100%" ... WCI Luffy couldn't Damage Kaido..

gtfo LOL write something real stop spamming.

Who is everyone clown? Sanji talk about CoC, Zolo didn't. Zolo was talking about general power level.
awww look at that Robin and Jimbei and even Crybaby like you are talking about the CoC that happened.. gtfo your blinded agenda baseless points. LOL


You think Zolo just wants his captain to KO 50.00 fodders with CoC or just wants his captain to be stronger overall?

Stop being extremely retarded like ZKK.

Zolo admits he isn't equal to his captain so he says Pica can't fight Luffy but Pica needs to fight Zolo instead. Zolo himself admits they are not equals, Dressrosa Luffy > Dressrosa Zolo confirmed once again by Zolo's own words, but Zolo's retarded fans are so stupid they are even denying Zolo's own words lmao, truly ZKK level delusion.
OFC Zoro wants Luffy above him.. LOL but that does not mean from what we CAN read and SEE that its true. You can debate whatever Zoro meant but as i said Actions speaks volumes...

And lastly Zoro's words only hinted at Luffy being higher than Pica.

The sentences included Luffy Pica and Zoro. There is no delusion here. Zoro said Pica fk off our captian is too strong for you i wouldn't want him to fight a pebble like you. So deal with me as underling.

Did that mean in anyway Zoro saying i am weaker than Luffy so fight me instead? LOL no

And even if he meant that From we have seen its a total opposite.

Now Do Not Reply To Me Again Unless You Have An Actual Argument To Make Ok Buddy? Because this is embarrasing really..
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#73
Yes, a captain will always be the strongest. In a pirate crew, the hierarchy is determined through power and strength. And even though Luffy is a goofball, he has the willpower and ambition. Zoro out of all people who takes pride in his strength wouldn't follow a guy weaker than himself. And now with Luffy basically being Jesus, doors are open for the power creep.
I seriously wonder if you are genuinely unaware of these facts or you failed at reading... :quest:

The funniest thing is that most crews arent even following the leader because he is the strongest but can't expect Erkek to figure it out, lol.

Roger convinced Rayleigh that they will turn the world upside down, his strength is irrelevant.
Luffy convinced Zoro that it is worth making him into Pirate King, his strength is irrelevant.
Shiryu is convinced that backing Blackbeard will help him achieve his goals, his strength is irrelevant.

King was convinced that backing Kaido would allow him to change the world, strength was irrelevant, only after realizing that he ain't Joyboy did King demand that he remains the strongest there is.
Whitebeard and others were convinced that backing Rocks would accomplish their own goals, his strength was irrelevant.

Oden was convinced that backing Whitebeard/Roger would lead to him learning what he desired to know, their strength was irrelevant.
Only the wimps in BM pirates follow the leader because they are terrified of her strength.
Heck, even Mihawk and Crocodile will learn that backing Buggy is beneficial to their goals, his strength is irrelevant.
Erkek: Muh world thinks a captain is strongest so that's why underlings arent captains. :milaugh:
 
#74
Yes, a captain will always be the strongest. In a pirate crew, the hierarchy is determined through power and strength. And even though Luffy is a goofball, he has the willpower and ambition. Zoro out of all people who takes pride in his strength wouldn't follow a guy weaker than himself. And now with Luffy basically being Jesus, doors are open for the power creep.
This argument died in Whisky Peak ... Zoro doesn't follow Luffy cause he's stronger, he follows Luffy cause they're like minded. The moment Luffy does something he strongly disagrees with he voices his opinion, which is funny cause if Luffy could just low-diff/mid-diff Zoro he also wouldn't respect Zoro.

Luffy respects strength almost as much as Zoro.
 
#75
Roger convinced Rayleigh that they will turn the world upside down, his strength is irrelevant.
Luffy convinced Zoro that it is worth making him into Pirate King, his strength is irrelevant.
Shiryu is convinced that backing Blackbeard will help him achieve his goals, his strength is irrelevant.

King was convinced that backing Kaido would allow him to change the world, strength was irrelevant, only after realizing that he ain't Joyboy did King demand that he remains the strongest there is.
Whitebeard and others were convinced that backing Rocks would accomplish their own goals, his strength was irrelevant.

Oden was convinced that backing Whitebeard/Roger would lead to him learning what he desired to know, their strength was irrelevant.
Only the wimps in BM pirates follow the leader because they are terrified of her strength.
Heck, even Mihawk and Crocodile will learn that backing Buggy is beneficial to their goals, his strength is irrelevant.
The copium, Nik-chin..

You think any clown could've approached Ray telling him they will turn the world upside down? Ray joined Roger because Roger had the vibe of a conqueror. King wasn't convinced Kaido needed his backup, he was simply convinced that Kaido was the guy. Luffy told Zoro that achieving the WSS title should be the bare minimum for someone on the Pirate King's crew, Zoro wasn't mad, he understood. Literally, in his first encounter with Mihawk, he remembered Luffy's words.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#76
The copium, Nik-chin..

You think any clown could've approached Ray telling him they will turn the world upside down? Ray joined Roger because Roger had the vibe of a conqueror. King wasn't convinced Kaido needed his backup, he was simply convinced that Kaido was the guy. Luffy told Zoro that achieving the WSS title should be the bare minimum for someone on the Pirate King's crew, Zoro wasn't mad, he understood. Literally, in his first encounter with Mihawk, he remembered Luffy's words.
There is no copium, lol.
Not a single one of those men has joined the captain because they were stronger than them.
The strength was never the deciding factor. It was a promise of great adventure/way of accomplishing their own goals.
We literally know for a fact that Luffy wasn't stronger than Zoro, Whiskey Peak proved it and after it Zoro is the one who powered up.
If Zoro followed Luffy because of strength, he would have left him in Alabasta.
 
#77
Wow i am gonna ask.. how old are you exactly? what kind of writing level is this..

"haha no sanji isn't on luffy level of CoO" debunked ez... where is the argument here? LOOOOL

"Zolo got KOed by Yeti Cool brothers you suck hahahah" do i have to change your diapers too? LMAO go learn how to discuss.

Here is again an argument of why Sanji had better CoO than Luffy you dumbass. That wedding dodge is one instance in Onigashima Sanji's CoO range turned out to be higher than Luffy. Even Luffy admitted that.

See ? this is how you debunk.
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If you gonna cry then don't try to debate by using nonsensical retarded things, show your evidence. Sanji isn't faster than Luffy, he is faster than Zolo but not faster Luffy, if you think he is then you are retarded, its that simple clown.
Do you even know what baseless means? Everything you wrote is baseless you are just pointing out that this and that happened but its the same point i am pointing out to you LMAO... By saying Zoro delayed hakai or me saying he blocked it for few seconds its all the same..

WTF are you saying here xDDD... you can't even troll right. At least those who made ZKK have crafted something that made kinda sense look at what you are writing. Its like reading from an 8 year old notebook.

How can we compare it to Luffy. LMFAO. its Basic knowledge dumbo IF Luffy got knocked out by 1 Yonkou Attack And Zoro Survived a Combined attack by 2 Yonkou. Its pretty clear that Zoro can survive any G4 attacks. Hence that made him Physical Stronger than pre Wano Luffy.

Now go ahead write it again "30 broken bones muhahaha" :suresure:
Is your Hakai wank finished now?

Honestly, you are retarded enough to believe delaying Hakai for few seconds and get yourself 30 broken bones, and Hakai still kept moving after Zolo was teleport saved by Law is above of Luffy's capabilities?

You watch Luffy's feats, and you come to conclusion Zolo delaying Hakai few seconds makes Zolo better after 30 broken bones?

This is what I am talking about you getting debunked like a dumb clown.

Luffy would even do better than that if he has to delay Hakai for few seconds and get heavy damage lmao.

:HoldThisL::BigW:

Zoro got 2 PU in Wano... namely Enma + AdvCoC.. where did several come from?..

WCI Luffy can beat someone on Alber Level ... the denial is real here... G4 post Wano was struggling with King's Kids how in the hell can he beat them if he was at WCI level... How dumb can you get?

What are you even writing here buddy... You are just saying again this and that.. show proof give me something solid write an actual argument... WTF are u saying by Zoro struggling against Kings means Dressrosa Luffy was stronger?? How...

Its simple math dumbass ... Post Wano Luffy was struggling to beat King's Kids easily "he can beat them 100%" ... WCI Luffy couldn't Damage Kaido..

gtfo LOL write something real stop spamming.
Seraphims aren't King's kids you dumb clown, they use same abilities as Warlords, and they are cyborgs who copied the Warlords fighting skills and they also use Haki as confirmed recently, they are superior to Alber.

Why you keep crying like a dumbass? WCI Luffy beat Alber level opponent, Zolo needed powerups to accomplish that feat. Luffy was stronger than Zolo before Wano as well, not only in Wano.

awww look at that Robin and Jimbei and even Crybaby like you are talking about the CoC that happened.. gtfo your blinded agenda baseless points. LOL
Honestly your IQ can't be higher than a goldfish.

Did I say others weren't talking about CoC? I said Zolo wasn't talking about CoC, he was talking about overall power level.

When someone shows CoA and can say they are superior overall, or can show CoO say superior overall, or show CoC and can say superior overall. They don't need to show CoA, CoO, CoC all 3 at the same time to talk about overall superiority.

Others talk about CoC, Zolo was talking Luffy being superior than him overall, unless you believe Zolo wants his captain to KO fodders with CoC not overall more powerful lmao, dumb clown.

OFC Zoro wants Luffy above him.. LOL but that does not mean from what we CAN read and SEE that its true. You can debate whatever Zoro meant but as i said Actions speaks volumes...

And lastly Zoro's words only hinted at Luffy being higher than Pica.

The sentences included Luffy Pica and Zoro. There is no delusion here. Zoro said Pica fk off our captian is too strong for you i wouldn't want him to fight a pebble like you. So deal with me as underling.

Did that mean in anyway Zoro saying i am weaker than Luffy so fight me instead? LOL no

And even if he meant that From we have seen its a total opposite.

Now Do Not Reply To Me Again Unless You Have An Actual Argument To Make Ok Buddy? Because this is embarrasing really..
Zolo would say something like, ''Pica you are not worthy to fight the captain or me'', instead he says ''Pica you are not worthy to fight my captain, so you fight me'',

If you are not incredibly stupid, you would understand the difference.

Zolo 2 times said Pre-Wano Luffy > Pre-Wano Zolo. Then Luffy and Zolo got powerups in Wano, the difference didn't change.

WCI Luffy (defeating Cracker + Katakuri) has superior feat to Post-Wano Zolo (defeating Alber), even WCI Luffy > Post-Wano Zolo is possible, WCI Luffy is definitely faster than Zolo and more versatile, has better endurance and durability, WCI Luffy can beat Post-Wano Zolo, Dressrosa versions aren't even close Luffy > Zolo again, so stop crying like a bitch.
 
#78
There is no copium, lol.
Not a single one of those men has joined the captain because they were stronger than them.
Their strength was not the reason to join, but they would not have joined if the captain did not have the strength to back it up. You think Roger was the only one wanting to go on adventure? Rayleigh won't join anyone offering him an adventure. You think Zoro would've joined everyone who introduced himself as wanting to become PK, something in the great era of piracy plethora of people want?
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#79
Their strength was not the reason to join, but they would not have joined if the captain did not have the strength to back it up. You think Roger was the only one wanting to go on adventure? Rayleigh won't join anyone offering him an adventure. You think Zoro would've joined everyone who introduced himself as wanting to become PK, something in the great era of piracy plethora of people want?
What strength? lol
All of them were far from their primes when they started putting their crews together.
You really think Zoro believes that East Blue brat like Luffy has the strength to become PK?
The brat who black mailed him into joining?
You really failed at reading, son. :crazwhat:
 
#80
Their strength was not the reason to join, but they would not have joined if the captain did not have the strength to back it up. You think Roger was the only one wanting to go on adventure? Rayleigh won't join anyone offering him an adventure. You think Zoro would've joined everyone who introduced himself as wanting to become PK, something in the great era of piracy plethora of people want?
Zolo's reply to join Baraque Works ''if you make me the boss''.

ZKKclowns: ''No Zolo doesn't want to be the boss''.

Zolo already told everyone Luffy > him during Fishman Island and vs Pica, but clowns act like Zolo can't sense powers by using CoO Haki now.
 
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