Speculations Why couldn’t Rayleigh learn Kamusari?
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It'd be weird to steal your captains moves as a first mate.
Saint Shanks was inspired by Roger,
Rayleigh was his best friend.
Not everything is powerscaling related.
Saint Shanks was inspired by Roger,
Rayleigh was his best friend.
Not everything is powerscaling related.
The stupidity in shankstards knows no bounds. No wonder everyone makes fun of Saint Shanks fans everywhere.
I have Roger > Rayleigh but
sandman's headcanon =/= canon
Oda never said "Even Rayleigh couldn't replicate it", interpretating the statement as Saint Shanks being the only one to succeed among those who tried instead of literally EVERYONE being unable to is not any less valid. There were non-swordsmen in the crew like Gaban (so there are already characters excluded from it) and Rayleigh relationship with Roger is not that of a failed copycat, he's his partner
sandman's headcanon =/= canon
Oda never said "Even Rayleigh couldn't replicate it", interpretating the statement as Saint Shanks being the only one to succeed among those who tried instead of literally EVERYONE being unable to is not any less valid. There were non-swordsmen in the crew like Gaban (so there are already characters excluded from it) and Rayleigh relationship with Roger is not that of a failed copycat, he's his partner
Roger was basically also Saint Shanks master/mentor and not only his captain
Ofc Saint Shanks learned roger's style or parts of it
Who can't undestand that simply take:
1) they dont' want to accept that Saint Shanks had greater potential than ray wen he was young
2) they don't want to admit that adult Saint Shanks is stronger than ray (overall, both swordmanship and haki): the fact that he can use kamusari and ray doesn't is another attestation of that
3) they don't want to accept that Saint Shanks is a swordsman
4) they don't want to accept that mihawk > Saint Shanks
Basically, agenda vs agenda vs agenda
Ofc Saint Shanks learned roger's style or parts of it
Who can't undestand that simply take:
1) they dont' want to accept that Saint Shanks had greater potential than ray wen he was young
2) they don't want to admit that adult Saint Shanks is stronger than ray (overall, both swordmanship and haki): the fact that he can use kamusari and ray doesn't is another attestation of that
3) they don't want to accept that Saint Shanks is a swordsman
4) they don't want to accept that mihawk > Saint Shanks
Basically, agenda vs agenda vs agenda
Even my grandpa with dementia can read
Yes, this is quite true, but it's also true that if oda is sayng "No one in the crew can do that" is basically almost certain that is implyng that ray couldn't
However, where is the problem? Where teenager Saint Shanks stronger than ray? No, he had more potential, that's all
Having more potential than someone =/= being stronger than someone in that moment
Yes, this is quite true, but it's also true that if oda is sayng "No one in the crew can do that" is basically almost certain that is implyng that ray couldn't
However, where is the problem? Where teenager Saint Shanks stronger than ray? No, he had more potential, that's all
Having more potential than someone =/= being stronger than someone in that moment
How does Rayleigh never trying Kamusari as a kid..bro is literally older than Roger for fuck sakes, show that Saint Shanks who tried to copy Kamusari as a kid, show Saint Shanks has more potential than Rayleigh?
We have seen Saint Shanks in his prime now and he literally looks like a puppy dog compared to Rayleigh in terms of aura, hype, portrayal, reputation and literally every metric possible.
People respect Rayleigh more than Saint Shanks
They fear Rayleigh more than Saint Shanks
They admire Rayleigh more than Saint Shanks
Rayleigh played bigger role in Luffys journey towards Pirate King than Saint Shanks
He was Luffys teacher not Saint Shanks
In real world standards Rayleigh feels like Kareem Abdul Jabar at the very worse while Saint Shanks is struggling to he even Clay Thompson
If Saint Shanks had great potential than Rayleigh than why does he need celestial dragon backing and one of the strongest crew to be a mere Yonko while Rayleighs presence is making Yonkou fear God.
I am talking 82 Year Old Arthritis Asthma and every other physical deficiency having Rayleigh.
This is as good as Saint Shanks will ever get
He will never be bigger than this
And in his very prime he doesn't excuse same aura Rayleigh does in his 80s.
Blackbeard was literally mocking Saint Shanks in front of his crew. Much weaker blackbeard with a few fodders and a decent at best fighter Shiryu.
Saint Shanks has been portrayed as a complete jobber compared to Rayleigh entire manga.
Where is that potential lmao?
Saint Shanks won't even get the learn truth of void century ffs
Forget potential of one arm snitch
He never said that you absolute unevolved ape.
He said some Roger Pirates like Saint Shanks, probably young fodders tried and Saint Shanks was the only one to successfully do it.
Why would Rayleigh try?
We have seen Saint Shanks in his prime now and he literally looks like a puppy dog compared to Rayleigh in terms of aura, hype, portrayal, reputation and literally every metric possible.
People respect Rayleigh more than Saint Shanks
They fear Rayleigh more than Saint Shanks
They admire Rayleigh more than Saint Shanks
Rayleigh played bigger role in Luffys journey towards Pirate King than Saint Shanks
He was Luffys teacher not Saint Shanks
In real world standards Rayleigh feels like Kareem Abdul Jabar at the very worse while Saint Shanks is struggling to he even Clay Thompson
If Saint Shanks had great potential than Rayleigh than why does he need celestial dragon backing and one of the strongest crew to be a mere Yonko while Rayleighs presence is making Yonkou fear God.
I am talking 82 Year Old Arthritis Asthma and every other physical deficiency having Rayleigh.
This is as good as Saint Shanks will ever get
He will never be bigger than this
And in his very prime he doesn't excuse same aura Rayleigh does in his 80s.
Blackbeard was literally mocking Saint Shanks in front of his crew. Much weaker blackbeard with a few fodders and a decent at best fighter Shiryu.
Saint Shanks has been portrayed as a complete jobber compared to Rayleigh entire manga.
Where is that potential lmao?
Saint Shanks won't even get the learn truth of void century ffs
Forget potential of one arm snitch
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He never said that you absolute unevolved ape.
He said some Roger Pirates like Saint Shanks, probably young fodders tried and Saint Shanks was the only one to successfully do it.
Why would Rayleigh try?
Saint Shanks was very obv more talented than Rayleigh cause he had the potential to surpass roger
tho it also goes without saying that he killed his potential by losing his arm ( reason mihawk stopped fighting him )
a fully realised Saint Shanks with both of his arms is undoubtedly on par or even stronger than roger
It’s just that we will never get this fully realised Saint Shanks cause of his arm situation
tho it also goes without saying that he killed his potential by losing his arm ( reason mihawk stopped fighting him )
a fully realised Saint Shanks with both of his arms is undoubtedly on par or even stronger than roger
It’s just that we will never get this fully realised Saint Shanks cause of his arm situation
I don't even know how to answer to this
Is the biggest amount of shit i ever read in this forum
Even colored haki scaling is better, no joking
Saint Shanks aura is the best in the verse right now among the living, oda literally loves him so/too much and every fucking times Saint Shanks did something oda emphasizes too much, he makes Saint Shanks feats embarassing (=too much exaggeration)
Is the biggest amount of shit i ever read in this forum
Even colored haki scaling is better, no joking
Saint Shanks aura is the best in the verse right now among the living, oda literally loves him so/too much and every fucking times Saint Shanks did something oda emphasizes too much, he makes Saint Shanks feats embarassing (=too much exaggeration)
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