Speculations Why couldn’t Rayleigh learn Kamusari?

[TheAncientCenturion]

Can't be CoC, Oda directly compared Shanks and Ray's CoC in FMI. At the very least they're in the same tier.

I'd bet Rayleigh simply didn't want Roger's move, he was his own swordsman after all. It's like asking why Zoro doesn't copy Brook's techniques.

 

[Warine]

Can't be CoC, Oda directly compared Shanks and Ray's CoC in FMI. At the very least they're in the same tier.

I'd bet Rayleigh simply didn't want Roger's move, he was his own swordsman after all. It's like asking why Zoro doesn't copy Brook's techniques.

It would be weird if everyone had the same move anyway

 

[NexusLord]

Kamusari is a Light King move not a Dark King

Roger has Divine Departure

Rayleigh has Get the Hell out of Here

 

[Warine]

He definitely would be in oden's. Oden thought no one else besides himself could beat him. Even in shanks's its possible. Roger and WB aside , Kaido comes next. Shanks personally doesn't know anything about Rocks.

Oden essentially won against Kaido despite the odds hence why he is living rent free in kaido's mind since 20 years. Oden would have the exact same top as Wb and Roger.

 

[Chrono]

May as well do leg press at that point

If the goal is quad hypertrophy why would it matter ? You can always train stablisers in isolation anyways.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Oden essentially won against Kaido despite the odds hence why he is living rent free in kaido's mind since 20 years. Oden would have the exact same top as Wb and Roger.

Technically oden lost but even if we go by that route , the manga explicitly says that it was a long fight. A character beating another doesn't mean they can't be on their top 5 lol.

 

[Warine]

Technically oden lost but even if we go by that route , the manga explicitly says that it was a long fight. A character beating another doesn't mean they can't be on their top 5 lol.

A long fight just like Kaido Vs big mom

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Because you need to be a deadbeat father to do it.

 

[MonsterKaido]

A long fight just like Kaido Vs big mom

And?

 

[Albino 👑]

You first need to be interested in something to be able to learn it


Oda named and drew several sword using Roger Pirates in a SBS

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“Except for Shanks, *no one* in Roger Pirates could even mimic Kamusari, Oda wrote explicitly.”

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

According to Oda, it’s a skill isue

Rayleigh doesn’t have whatever skill required to do it

 

[SkySanji]

Can't be CoC, Oda directly compared Shanks and Ray's CoC in FMI. At the very least they're in the same tier.

I'd bet Rayleigh simply didn't want Roger's move, he was his own swordsman after all. It's like asking why Zoro doesn't copy Brook's techniques.

Nah, he didn't.

 

[The DevilMaster]

Why didn’t King, Jack, Queen, and Who's-Who want to copy Kaidou's Thunder Bagua?
Yamato copied the Thunder Bagua, and King "copied" the Flaming Dragon.

This topic lacks a solid foundation. There is no clear information indicating that Rayleigh tried or wanted to copy any specific technique of Roger’s, like the Kamusari. Without that evidence, any assumption about him wanting to replicate Roger's abilities is purely speculation.

 

[SakazOuki]

Why didn’t King, Jack, Queen, and Who's-Who want to copy Kaidou's Thunder Bagua?

When Queen’s headbutt puts a Yonko to sleep, why would he learn some bum ass move that wouldn’t knock out even a scrubbard

 

[The DevilMaster]

When Queen’s headbutt puts a Yonko to sleep, why would he learn some bum ass move that wouldn’t knock out even a scrubbard

Landing a headbutt is situational and highly context-dependent; your opponent isn’t going to suddenly get amnesia and stop thinking mid-fight,look how many headbutts he tried against Sanji.. Meanwhile, the Thunder Bagua is the fastest attack in the entire series—it can blitz and knock out admirals in the blink of an eye.

 

[Just a member]

Kamusari, divine departure, at this point is probably a signature move of the "main characters", holders of the hat or whatever you want to call them, if Luffy had a sword I would bet he would get it if he already hasn't at this point. Ray or the others will simply not get it because he is not from that line.

Also it is to be expected Joy Boy will have it too or maybe not because he is even above Roger.. so he has something else that Luffy gets as well while Roger and Shanks didn't.

 

[Fujishiro]

I don't want Sandmans Shanks masterbation..I want actual raws

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"TOP 5"
Bro Old Rayleigh stomps Kaido

Lol same Rayleigh who said he cant beat Blackbeard right?

 

[comrade]

He probably didn't try hard, but at the same time it wasn't something Rayleigh could've easily picked up if he wanted to. Oda made sure to emphasize that Shanks replicating it at the age of 15, something no one else could pick up, made him a genius. That statement wouldn't make much sense if no one of worth even tried it.

 

[L57]

He probably didn't try hard, but at the same time it wasn't something Rayleigh could've easily picked up if he wanted to. Oda made sure to emphasize that Shanks replicating it at the age of 15, something no one else could pick up, made him a genius. That statement wouldn't make much sense if no one of worth even tried it.

Plenty of blade users in roger pirates tho

 

[NAMELESS]

Ray has his own moves i guess.