Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zenos7]

I am not an expert on the history of science, but I think that if people in the past based their worldviews on the level of science at the time, many would have had a mistaken worldview, so the track record for basing your worldview off of that isn't good, that's why I think it is good to study evolution, but not good to center it as a core of your worldview,

To give an example of this happening in political science @Logiko , unless I misunderstood or what I am saying about this is wrong, Marx and Engels thought that society progressed through stages in the modes of production, first in primitive communism, then in feudalism, then in capitalism, then in communism, and that is mistaken, but they had come to think that because they had a good understanding of how capitalism appeared, but very little data on anthropology,

Science leads to an understanding of our natural world, not world views.

Science being a self-improving system is one of its pros, not a con

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I think the proof for evolution doesn't have to be a lie, for our current understanding of it, or for the current idea of it, to be mistaken,

Evolution is a factual phenomenon

 

[Blax Blah]

Science leads to an understanding of our natural world, not world views.

Science being a self-improving system is one of its pros, not a con

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Evolution is a factual phenomenon

I think science influences our worldviews, for example with evolution, thinking that beings evolved from something else or that life appeared out of non-living things,

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Without Darwin there'd be no Pokémon.

 

[Reborn]

I am not an expert on the history of science, but I think that if people in the past based their worldviews on the level of science at the time, many would have had a mistaken worldview, so the track record for basing your worldview off of that isn't good, that's why I think it is good to study evolution, but not good to center it as a core of your worldview,

To give an example of this happening in political science @Logiko , unless I misunderstood or what I am saying about this is wrong, Marx and Engels thought that society progressed through stages in the modes of production, first in primitive communism, then in feudalism, then in capitalism, then in communism, and that is mistaken, but they had come to think that because they had a good understanding of how capitalism appeared, but very little data on anthropology,

Why it's not good to have world views based on it?


A theory in science is well tested. And, the best thing about science is as data and new observations keep on coming, all theories get subjected to repeated testing and updation if necessary.

So, having a view on something which stood test of time, countless experiments, observations and data is actually good.

Take Einstein theory of general relativity..till this day scientists put this theory to test and it always prevail

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Not as much as you guys.

We’re American, you’re not (as much as you want to be)

We’re not out here posting meloni memes left and right.

 

[Reborn]

We’re American, you’re not (as much as you want to be)

We’re not out here posting meloni memes left and right.

Why he needs to be an American to post memes as much as he wants to regarding trump?

Why him talking about Trump implies he's looking for green card?

He has free speech and he can post anything he likes as much as he wants to

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

We’re American, you’re not (as much as you want to be)

We’re not out here posting meloni memes left and right.

That's a really dumb argument and you know it. Also I wouldn't mind it if you posted Meloni memes.

 

[Zemmi]

That's a really dumb argument and you know it. Also I wouldn't mind it if you posted Meloni memes.

It's Ok! As an American who supports Trump, I support your posting memes of him.

 

[Blax Blah]

Why it's not good to have world views based on it?


A theory in science is well tested. And, the best thing about science is as data and new observations keep on coming, all theories get subjected to repeated testing and updation if necessary.

So, having a view on something which stood test of time, countless experiments, observations and data is actually good.

Take Einstein theory of general relativity..till this day scientists put this theory to test and it always prevail

The reason I say it is not good to base your worldview on it is that worldviews based on the science of a specific period have a bad trackrecord, unless I am wrong about that, and I gave an example of the one that I am most familiar with, in political science, the idea that socirty moves through determined modes of production, which may be called historical materialism,

But about the theory of relativity, I heard that there are some problems in science because some theories in math and physics do not match up withe ach other or contradict each other but work well as a model to describe how what they are focused on works, and I heard that one of those theories that have some issues working with each other is the theory of relativity, I will fact check if that's true and you can look it up too if you want to,

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Science leads to an understanding of our natural world, not world views.

Science being a self-improving system is one of its pros, not a con

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Evolution is a factual phenomenon

For example, the statement, evolution is a factual phenomenon, may seem true now, but it may not hold up to future discoveries, at least not with the current understanding of evolution, or not the present idea of evolution,

 

[Reborn]

The reason I say it is not good to base your worldview on it is that worldviews based on the science of a specific period have a bad trackrecord, unless I am wrong about that, and I gave an example of the one that I am most familiar with, in political science, the idea that socirty moves through determined modes of production, which may be called historical materialism,

But about the theory of relativity, I heard that there are some problems in science because some theories in math and physics do not match up withe ach other or contradict each other but work well as a model to describe how what they are focused on works, and I heard that one of those theories that have some issues working with each other is the theory of relativity, I will fact check if that's true and you can look it up too if you want to,

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For example, the statement, evolution is a factual phenomenon, may seem true now, but it may not hold up to future discoveries, at least not with the current understanding of evolution, or not the present idea of evolution,

That's why I said, theories which stood test of TIME - theories are updated if required with time if more evidences pile up.


Also, on theory of relativity - it doesn't go well with quantum mechanics.

However, that doesn't imply theory of relativity is wrong. It works perfectly well on bigger scale and we know it because of techs we used based on it and the countless tests it passed with most recent one being gravitational wave.

Quantum mechanics works perfectly well on smaller scale

 

[Toby D. Dog]

That's a really dumb argument and you know it. Also I wouldn't mind it if you posted Meloni memes.

One thing is posting memes. Another one is gobbling on his schlong 24/7.

Being this obsessed over a politician that’s not even from your country is cuck behavior.

 

[Blax Blah]

That's why I said, theories which stood test of TIME - theories are updated if required with time if more evidences pile up.


Also, on theory of relativity - it doesn't go well with quantum mechanics.

However, that doesn't imply theory of relativity is wrong. It works perfectly well on bigger scale and we know it because of techs we used based on it and the countless tests it passed with most recent one being gravitational wave.

Quantum mechanics works perfectly well on smaller scale

Yeah,

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Why he needs to be an American to post memes as much as he wants to regarding trump?

Why him talking about Trump implies he's looking for green card?

He has free speech and he can post anything he likes as much as he wants to

When did I say you don’t have the right? You guys are just mega obsessed with him, which is pretty pathetic considering he advocates for policies that are not even advantageous for the economies of your respective countries.

suck his dick all you want, I’m just calling out cucked behavior.

 

[Reborn]

When did I say you don’t have the right? You guys are just mega obsessed with him, which is pretty pathetic considering he advocates for policies that are not even advantageous for the economies of your respective countries.

suck his dick all you want, I’m just calling out cucked behavior.

You aren't calling anyone out.

Let me blunt with you - you are being a crybaby and salty since Trump won and even when posts aren't targeted at you, you can't hold yourself from making remarks on the users who are supporting trump.

And, in this exchange only you are coming across as pathetic

You are a migrant yourself so perhaps you think that any outsider who talks about Trump is looking for green card but people are sufficient enough in their place that they don't need to migrate to America


Mind your business and if you can't then stay away from internet... softie

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

One thing is posting memes. Another one is gobbling on his schlong 24/7.



Being this obsessed over a politician that’s not even from your country is cuck behavior.

I just do it in this thread to piss off people. ;)

About the POTUS not being from our country, it could easily be argued that they have more influence on our politics than our own president.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

You aren't calling anyone out.

Let me blunt with you - you are being a crybaby and salty since Trump won and even when posts aren't targeted at you, you can't hold yourself from making remarks on the users who are supporting trump.

And, in this exchange only you are coming across as pathetic

You are a migrant yourself so perhaps you think that any outsider who talks about Trump is looking for green card but people are sufficient enough in their place that they don't need to migrate to America


Mind your business and if you can't then stay away from internet... softie

Am I the softie? You’re the one getting offended here. I am free to interject and call out your behavior if I feel like it.

If you feel the need to talk about a guy 24/7 when he isn’t even your direct leader then I think that’s cucked behavior, and you probably are simply looking to be part of a group that will never accept you in the first place.

If you don’t want me to interact with you then that’s ok baldy, I wasn’t quoting you in the first place.

 

[AL sama]

The reason I say it is not good to base your worldview on it is that worldviews based on the science of a specific period have a bad trackrecord, unless I am wrong about that, and I gave an example of the one that I am most familiar with, in political science, the idea that socirty moves through determined modes of production, which may be called historical materialism,

But about the theory of relativity, I heard that there are some problems in science because some theories in math and physics do not match up withe ach other or contradict each other but work well as a model to describe how what they are focused on works, and I heard that one of those theories that have some issues working with each other is the theory of relativity, I will fact check if that's true and you can look it up too if you want to,

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For example, the statement, evolution is a factual phenomenon, may seem true now, but it may not hold up to future discoveries, at least not with the current understanding of evolution, or not the present idea of evolution,

I can argue with you but I think you're saying these things to justify your beliefs and views

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I just do it in this thread to piss off people. ;)

About the POTUS not being from our country, it could easily be argued that they have more influence on our politics than our own president.

Then at least stop pretending you care about foreign policy and the Palestinian genocide in the first place. It’s clear that you will just project whatever you want him to believe onto him when he’s been clear about where he stands.

 

[Water1415]

I think the proof for evolution doesn't have to be a lie, for our current understanding of it, or for the current idea of it, to be mistaken,

Evolution is true, but today many scientist are sell outs

 

[Reborn]

Am I the softie? You’re the one getting offended here. I am free to interject and call out your behavior if I feel like it.

If you feel the need to talk about a guy 24/7 when he isn’t even your direct leader then I think that’s cucked behavior, and you probably are simply looking to be part of a group that will never accept you in the first place.

If you don’t want me to interact with you then that’s ok baldy, I wasn’t quoting you in the first place.

I am calling your desperate need to get attention and cry like a baby coz

You quoted me few days ago in the exact same way like you did with Brush and in both scenario posts weren't targetted at you...

And, you are being so pathetic and miserable that you are throwning remarks on the users who are supporting trump.

We all can see who is getting offended by talking about Trump and it's definitely not us.