Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 957: Ultimate

[Stack Bundles Chinx]

Kaido got the highest Bounty among all living beings

 

[Bogard]

Sometimes you guys go ridiculous level to hype Mihawk up!

Those Vivre cards are total crap, they are the worst thing that happened to One Piece in recent years. Overall, the data books should be taken with a grain of salt. Only the databook green has some credibility. There is a sentence "Completely supervised by Eiichiro Oda" (尾田栄一郎完全監修)

Well the thing is Oda himself recommended his data book 2times in an SBS. I used not to take Naruto data books seriously, but I made an exception to the vivre card because it seemed to give some valuable informations, but at least this reveal helped me understand that they are all indeed full of crap and that Mihawk was indeed Vista lvl all along

 

[Blackbeard]

The previous and current Fleet Admirals. i like this panel :

 

[Rmstorm]

So Rocks D. Xebec looks like a psycho and directly launched terrorist attacks against the WG....his actions dealt with things that the WG wanted to erase from history(screams Void Century shit) and even put Celestial Dragons in danger.

Roger and Garp, both from the D clan, joins forces to take out Rocks, as if Roger was saying "This isnt the way. It's not you!"(similar to how WB spoke to BB). Roger tries but catches a disease and dies early.

Roger sets the stage for a new adventurer but BB lingers as the new Rocks guy since he likes ruling the world as well, with Shanks conspiring against him.

Luffy is looking more and more like Xebec D Rox. All of Luffy's actions are like Rox, including the ability to make allies. He even attacked a Celestial Dragon like Luffy. Luffy attacked WG directly Impel Down, Ennies Lobby and Marineford.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

why had Garp had to protect the CDs could it be they have Dragon or his mother hostages at that time?

U're probably right.

 

[Kai. Do]

Avoided the internet for two days when I heard this chapter was meant to be so huge.

Well, anyway, I think everyone's probably already made the coneection that Blackbeard's ship is named after Xebec, so that's one of the most interesting things about it, as it's giving us a hint of his goals. King of the World, huh? And he's on his old island. Could we see Blackbeard kill Im and sit his fatass on the empty throne? Xebec the previous Yami Yami user?

Xebec must have had Luffy's charisma, to get that lot to follow him. Particularly Whitebeard, because it certainly doesn't seem like something he'd have involved himself with, in his old age at least.

The circumstances for Garp and Roger teaming up must be interesting. I'd think it was to protect the slaves more than anything, cause surely neither of the two of them would care about the CD's- another potentially interesting motive for Blackbeard, is he going to do a Xebec and attack them? Roger probably never joined the alliance because he wanted to do it by himself and be his own boss.

Gods Valley probably got the "light to be extinguished" treatment then.

The bounties are interesting enough, mostly because of how far behind Blackbeard is. That says he's got at least one, huge moment coming up to get his bounty in the 5 billion area. And it shows how far behind Luffy is. Think I'll guess Luffy's bounty to be 3 billion after Wano, since he's also had a 30 and a 300 one. Wonder what Rayleigh's was. And Mihawk's updated bounty will be interesting- given he doesn't even have a crew, him being in the 2 billion range with Blackbeard is probably the most we can expect. The World Gov can surely only consider individual strength to be a threat to a certain level compared to leading a crew of enemies.

Shanks' crew seems to be the most well balanced of the Yonko, and that's their selling point. Which, considering the others tend to be utterly nuts, makes sense. And Luffy's final bounty is basically confirmed to be 5,6 billion to surpass Roger. Fitting, I suppose.

Interesting that Sakazuki for one, even though he hates Pirates, is shitting himself that Vegapunks SSG (Super Saiyan Garp lol) isn't enough to fill the gaps. Hopefully we get to see whatever it is in action, and it lives up to the > Warlord hype.

Not sure where Oda's going with the last page and the Oden stuff. Whether it's hinting at more than what we know or just, yknow, the obvious- Oden was a great guy and also the pathway to Raftel before Robin came about.

Xebec comes from the name of 17th century medditerranian sailing ships, used by Spanish and French sailors.

Interesting Teach's ship is called 'Saber of Xebec'

 

[Sade]

Note that Kaido wasn't presented as the WSC just like Mihawk and his WSS title after the abolition of Warlords.

It's all WG propaganda.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

Kaido got the highest Bounty among all living beings

Nah Revolutionary Dragon.

 

[Lampyris]

The craziest part is that Act 3 still hasn't started.

There is still one more chapter minimum of this around-the-world goodness.

 

[Gintoki]

Oda showing the bounties of Yonkos is an indicator that they will drop down like flies/beaten.

 

[Finalbeta]

Oda showing the bounties of Yonko's is an indicator that they will drop down like flies/beaten.

Well Luffy and a few others will reach them soon

 

[King7]

Ryokugyu is heading to Mihawk
Fujitora to Amazon Lily
Kizaru to Weevil ?

Not sure if Marines can dispatch all 3 Admirals at the same time though

 

[The Penguin]

Oden is Scopper Gaban, no doubt.

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

Oden is Scopper Gaban, no doubt.

...we've seen Scopper. The dude used an axe, not two swords. The reality is that he's not gonna be relevant - he's just a guy made to fill out Roger's crew.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Nope they re the strongest
Their hype and strength is so great that WG erased their records from history books.

While roger pirates Werner feared that much
They even let Rayligh roam the sea even after finding out he stays at Sabaody

Stop your headcannon. Its says at their time. They were not in primes

 

[Uncle Van]

1. BB's island is where the Rocks pirates formed.

2. BB has a lot of references to Xebec

3. BB was born 2 years after the Rocks were beaten.

4. BB has evil charisma and can recruit the worst of the worst(Luffy can recruit the best of the best). Rock's crew were said to be psychopaths who didnt get along and would even attack each other.

5. Unknown if Rocks D. Xebec died or not.

6. Unknown if Xebec directly influenced BB like Shanks did Luffy or someone who knew Xebec taught B a few things.

 

[Sade]

I think that a good comparison about the power level of young Big Mom and Kaido is Weevil who is considered ( note, that might be a propaganda by Kizaru and Bakkin ) as strong as Young WB.

 

[Zowo]

Note that Kaido wasn't presented as the WSC just like Mihawk and his WSS title after the abolition of Warlords.

It's all WG propaganda.

oh shit ur right so kaido isn t the wsc no more he s general kaido

 

[Rmstorm]

1. BB's island is God Valley.

2. BB has a lot of references to Xebec

3. BB was born 2 years after the Rocks were beaten.

4. BB has evil charisma and can recruit the worst of the worst(Luffy can recruit the best of the best). Rock's crew were said to be psychopaths who didnt get along and would even attack each other.

5. Unknown if Rocks D. Xebec died or not.

6. Unknown if Xebec directly influenced BB like Shanks did Luffy or someone who knew Xebec taught B a few things.

Luffy is the Rocks of this era. Xebec D. Rocks all his actions are rox. Including attacking celestial dragons and attracting allies.

 

[Konstantis]

Still rocks pirates is strongest in history.l
Pk roger >~ Rocks > 38 years ago Roger
But
Young WB>Prime rayleigh lol
Young BM>scopper
Shiki> oden and rest
Rookie Kaido> rookie shanks and all them fodders

No wonder why Kizaru said Weevil remind of WB in his youth .

This means Rayleigh wasnt that powerful nor close to roger
and scopper or whoever are way below too.
Coz if he was... rocks cant be strongest crew in history

Not surprising Rocks had 4 monsters
Roger had one monster and oden

Why you saying that PK>Rocks, while Rocks<=Roger+Garp...ofcourse Rocks could be on same lvl as Roger, but I believe that Rocks could be even stronger than PK. No doubts if his bounty could be compared to Dragon.