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Logiko

Logiko

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#51,101
Reborn said:
Bro I am not reading all that shit or your posts ever again
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I'm not only writing for you

:sweat:

Reborn said:
You just implied "men don't bring any positive values" wtf lol
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On a systemic basis. No. Clearly no.

That's what Patriarchy is all about mate.


Reborn said:
You have to be a brainless, delusional and brainwashed person to make such outrageous comment....
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Or just aware and educated on the oppressions created by patriarchy and the other systems.


Reborn said:
Actually, I was wrong. You don't have Socrates Dialectical process skill.
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Not here indeed. I'm not in the mood for it. It comes and goes. :)

Reborn said:
You just spew your rhetorics which you basically learnt from your like minded echo chamber.
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No. I'm telling you facts. Facts that you consider as a biased rethoric because you are not aware or REFUSES to accepts them as true.

And since I do not have the strenght to be always tolerant with your BS, for once, I'm telling you things as there are instead of trying to waste 1h on a discussion I know I will only waste my tiem with.

Because that's the problem. The dialectic approach of Socrates and the method I'm using ONLY WORKS when those two parameters are met:

1 - The interlocutor (me) asking questions is willing to be tolerant and respectfull of the other
2 - The receiving person is willing to put their judgment on hold and reconsider their rethorics when met with contradictory evidences or reasonning based on factual evidences of reality.

Right now, I'm not willing to do the first because I'm tired of this BS tonight, and you and others here are once again showing that you are not willing to do the second.

So there is no discussion possible.

:BigW:
 
Zemmi

Zemmi

GodMommie
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#51,104
#51,104
Reborn said:
Bro I am not reading all that shit or your posts ever again


You just implied "men don't bring any positive values" wtf lol

You have to be a brainless, delusional and brainwashed person to make such outrageous comment....


Actually, I was wrong. You don't have Socrates Dialectical process skill. You just spew your rhetorics which you basically learnt from your like minded echo chamber.
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People who spread these types of narratives is the reason there is a big push right. The best way to move people in a certain direction is telling people something they know is a lie, the same reason left leaning mainstream media are failing. I can't think of a bigger lie than saying everyone in xy or z group is evil and bad.
 
Blax Blah

Blax Blah

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#51,105
#51,105
Reborn said:
Bro I am not reading all that shit or your posts ever again


You just implied "men don't bring any positive values" wtf lol

You have to be a brainless, delusional and brainwashed person to make such outrageous comment....


Actually, I was wrong. You don't have Socrates Dialectical process skill. You just spew your rhetorics which you basically learnt from your like minded echo chamber.
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When did they say that?,
 
Logiko

Logiko

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#51,106
Zemmi said:
the same reason left leaning mainstream media are failing
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Left leaning media are rising, not failing. If I take the only example of France, the conservative media circle is completely destroying itself in ridiculous behaviors and leftist independant media are popping one after another bringing the best content we have seens in 15 years.

And it's the same for the US too.. conservatives are failing, People are starting to get sick of the Shapiro BS and more and more influencers are getting big.

You may be talking about liberals mainstream media. Those are not leftists. At best you can have a bit of leftism in hollywood, but it's not really failing as a leftist things, more as a liberal thing.


Zemmi said:
I can't think of a bigger lie than saying everyone in xy or z group is evil and bad.
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Well.. Look at who was voted in power in the US.

:kayneshrug:
 
Blax Blah

Blax Blah

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#51,107
The social democrat leader in my country said he likes Trump very much, I did hear before that they were social democrat in name only,
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Logiko said:
Left leaning media are rising, not failing. If I take the only example of France, the conservative media circle is completely destroying itself in ridiculous behaviors and leftist independant media are popping one after another bringing the best content we have seens in 15 years.

And it's the same for the US too.. conservatives are failing, People are starting to get sick of the Shapiro BS and more and more influencers are getting big.

You may be talking about liberals mainstream media. Those are not leftists. At best you can have a bit of leftism in hollywood, but it's not really failing as a leftist things, more as a liberal thing.



Well.. Look at who was voted in power in the US.

:kayneshrug:
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True, may what is good overcome all else, but leftism has not had much of anything in the past while, I'm not an expert on political history but I would say the socialist organizations popping up are leftist wins, antifa, the zapatistas, the resurgence of leftist making information more easily accessible in the past few years,
 
Blax Blah

Blax Blah

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#51,109
Also hopefully twitter going bankrupt unless they change, and bluesky's no nazi propaganda policy,
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Worst said:
Yeah bro this guy is cooked

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More people using the internet, leftists have seen a way bigger increase in percentage, only two issues is to continue to make information way more easily accessible and with modern wording to understand it easier, and to build the new in the shell of the old,
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Just let more people know, make it not have 19th century wording, and organise,
 
Worst

Worst

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#51,110
Blax Blah said:
More people using the internet, leftists have seen a way bigger increase in percentage, only two issues is to continue to make information way more easily accessible and with modern wording to understand it easier, and to build the new in the shell of the old,
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Just let more people know, make it not have 19th century wording, and organise,
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True but it's not like the number of people using the internet doubled since 2023 xD
 
Reborn

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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#51,113
Zemmi said:
People who spread these types of narratives is the reason there is a big push right. The best way to move people in a certain direction is telling people something they know is a lie, the same reason left leaning mainstream media are failing. I can't think of a bigger lie than saying everyone in xy or z group is evil and bad.
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True


And, I will add one more aspect - their hypocrisy when it comes to rights and victim card mentality.

As you said, people are leaning towards rights because they are simply fed up of the BS these are coming up with
 
Blax Blah

Blax Blah

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#51,117
Afroking said:
No. The general secretary of the Communist party(on the left)


Today on the memorial day of the famine/starvation in Ukraine caused by Stalin


http://imgur.com/4KjNmA8
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Leninism and stalinism are not really different, some leninists may say that Stalin corrupted the USSR, but leninism as an ideology was put together by Stalin,
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And both leninism and stalinism, also maoism and dengism, or socialism with chinese characteristics, reffer to a state capitalist governement who just says they will one day do socialism after doing a lot of capitalism,
 
Punk Rotten

Punk Rotten

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#51,118
Logiko said:
Left leaning media are rising, not failing. If I take the only example of France, the conservative media circle is completely destroying itself in ridiculous behaviors and leftist independant media are popping one after another bringing the best content we have seens in 15 years.

And it's the same for the US too.. conservatives are failing, People are starting to get sick of the Shapiro BS and more and more influencers are getting big.

You may be talking about liberals mainstream media. Those are not leftists. At best you can have a bit of leftism in hollywood, but it's not really failing as a leftist things, more as a liberal thing.



Well.. Look at who was voted in power in the US.

:kayneshrug:
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The thing is that leftist sensibilities and politics often get confused with liberal mainstream media and that’s the problem. Of course there’s a real need to change the status quo, and from the leftist side which gets sidelined all the time for more moderate shit.

This perspective is coming from the right media which doesn’t bother to distinguish the difference, purposefully or out of bias, or both.
 
Blax Blah

Blax Blah

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#51,119
Punk Rotten said:
The thing is that leftist sensibilities and politics often get confused with liberal mainstream media and that’s the problem. Of course there’s a real need to change the status quo, and from the leftist side which gets sidelined all the time for more moderate shit.

This perspective is coming from the right media which doesn’t bother to distinguish the difference, purposefully or out of bias, or both.
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Yeah, liberalism is not leftism,
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I think leftism, excluding authoritarian socialism, is when people are given the control over their life to govern or live freely as they want to,
 
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