Spoiler One Piece Chapter 986 Spoilers Discussion

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He shouldn't have given Shusui to begin with

It's certainly annoying

Ryuuma tells him to take the sword and the sword will be content if he was the master

Then a third party tells him to give the sword in exchange for another sword that cut kaido

Zoro agrees
Like what the fuck!

What happened to the Zoro who wouldn't throw Yobashiri after being rusted... and then gave it a proper burial.... along with the previous members of Rumbar Pirates with a song by Brook

What kind of shit is this!?
i think zoro gave away shusui out of respect for what it meant for the people of wano, and he did get a great replacement in enma which isn't black blade yet so he will have to raise it's rank himself this time.
 
Luffy all out is Ray lvl. So we can see what Ray can do against an emperor
How did you determine that? LMAO

One thing is for sure.... IN ANY SHONEN ANIME, when the student SURPASSES his master.... the author makes sure to highlights it

In other words, EVEN IF LUFFY beat Kaido SOLO
and Oda did not show/highlight that by some third party that "Luffy surpassed Rayleigh"
then that simply means Rayleigh is STILL stronger

That's an iron-clad rule in Shonen... remember it

Oda can highlight that moment by so many ways:

1- The Naruto/Jiraya style: a master defeated by someone, and Luffy defeats him

2- Luffy defeating an old rival for Rayleigh, who saw Rayleigh's prime strength and acknowledges that Luffy state surpasses rayleigh

3- Luffy meets Rayleigh again, and Rayleigh through his eyes, acknowledges that

4- Or both of them fight together and Rayleigh sees that he surpassed him

5- a Member from Roger crew fights alongside Luffy (such as Scopper Gabban) and he acknowledges it


And many other ways.... point is... when Luffy surpasses rayleigh, it will be 100% sure mentioned... cause Shonen always highlights the moment a student surpasses his teacher

It's why EVEN TO THIS DAY, even after defeating Katakuri... Luffy is remembering techniques from Rayleigh like the advanced 3rd stage Ryuu

We don't yet know if Rayleigh showed Luffy an advanced king's haki during training to demonstrate something.. or even more mysterious stuff
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
Also, WB's final Gura imbued Punch on Akainu was probably the strongest attack besides Heaven and Earth.
 
Fresh Kaido, weapon swatted away by Nekomamushi and overwhelmed by the scabbards

Wounded Akainu, solo-ing Yonko crews


Yonko fans just can’t catch any breaks can they? Lol
Weird comparison. Akainu got buried by a dying Whotebeard after being surprised. Same thing is happening here. Hell, Akainu used the same tactic on WB while coughed blood.

Its almost like getting the jump on someone actually works!
 
Fresh Kaido, weapon swatted away by Nekomamushi and overwhelmed by the scabbards

Wounded Akainu, solo-ing Yonko crews


Yonko fans just can’t catch any breaks can they? Lol
Didn’t a fresh Aokiji get his weapon swatted by pre-timeskip Sanji?

As for being overwhelmed, Kaido looked overwhelmed when he got punched in the head by a Gear 3rd Luffy, only for next chapter to end up being Kaido to one shot a Gear 4th Luffy.

We’ll see what happens next week.
 
i think zoro gave away shusui out of respect for what it meant for the people of wano, and he did get a great replacement in enma which isn't black blade yet so he will have to raise it's rank himself this time.
Except... the SAME PEOPLE (Kawamatsu and Onimaru) who are rejecting the idea of Zoro holding Ryuuma sword... they are the ONES who were collecting swords from the graves from Samurai... and saying the ideology that "the war is not over" and to honor those Samurai "we pick the sword of our brethren and fight with it"

What they complained about with Ryuuma sword completely contradicts that belief.... And if I want to take it another notch.... I think we all can agree that Ryuuma himself would be MORE HAPPY if Zoro of the Samurai took his sword and LIBERATED WANO with it, since he was its protector and always cared about protecting Wano from danger in the past

I literally hated how Shusui gave so easily... it's bad... Like Zoro could have given the sword away and accepted a replacement BUT ONLY after he liberated Wano with Shusui

That would make much more impact on the sword value!
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Admiral fans: Kaido is so trash he got pushed off a roof by 3 Yc level dudes
While Fujitora is still under treatment from his extreme diff fight with morley
Kinemon is yc3 now ?
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Didn’t a fresh Aokiji get his weapon swatted by pre-timeskip Sanji?

As for being overwhelmed, Kaido looked overwhelmed when he got punched in the head by a Gear 3rd Luffy, only for next chapter to end up being Kaido to one shot a Gear 4th Luffy.

We’ll see what happens next week.
Lmfao show when aokiji ever used an ice sword again ? Thats just what he used once against the sh who were fodders to him.
How low do you have to go to compare that to kaidos staple club.
 
Btw since Oda felt the need to make Neko disarm Kaido after he drew Izo disarming King, I'm 100% sure Zoro is going to fight him. So no full Marco vs King.
Typical Eichiro "Don't speak ill of Zoro" Oda
 
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Beast pirates outside of Kaido.
Would have lost to Germa + Firetank +Strawhats. Something people don't get it, Kaido is the reason why This crew has survived NW.

Retainers and samurai +Minks don't even even SNs to beat beats pirates excluding Kaido.
They blitz Kaido,King,Queen and Jack, face Jack for days, hurt Jack, one of them easily stop Zoro, they impress Kaido a lot, what they do need more to show? I doubt we could see similar feats of Doffy and his crew against Kaido and his calamity.
Retainers can't lose to cakamities and flyers , let alone lose to Doffy and crew.
When Kaido meet Oden



When Roger / Whitebeard meet Oden

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Low troll
Kaido met Oden at the castle 25 years ago, he never hyped Oden then and sweat.
WB met oden 30 years ago and was the one sweating and hyping young non prime Oden.
I love the fact one piece fans don't even bother to learn

Oda showing us Kaido as if he is in trouble


and then







any one who dare downplay Kaido in this chapter would get neg diff in next chapter


while




it took 9 of them to give Kaido a min effect ... not even that

while





so ....


the only reasons people are daring to attack Kaido in fandom is damage control when Kaido lol diff all of them
Until now, no high tier/inbetweener has clashed evenly with even Sane Kaido/Sane BM 1 v 1 where they trade blows equally.
Even when BM is nerfed or Kaido is nerfed, they never postpone
They think Kaido vs retainers will hype Mihawk being Stalemated by vista. When vista isn't even above Base Dukes.

"Akainu would melt their swords" lol he doesn't melt swords of decent haki users who are Mid tier +
 
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