Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1132 Spoilers Discussion

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Odalene, Odalene, Odalene, Odalene
Oh, I'm begging you, please stop teasing the plan
Odalene, Odalene, Odalene, Odalene
Please don’t add 50 new characters, man!

Your mysteries are way too vague
With silhouettes, and cryptic dialogue, I’m like “AUGH!”
You’re stacking plotlines, and I can’t keep track, no!

Your chapters leave me scratching my head
Where’s my closure? Where’s the plot thread?
And I can’t keep up with you, Odalene

And I could easily understand
How you could troll us with your next big “strand”
But you don’t know how bad this feels, Odalene

You bait us with your SBS and memes
There's nothing we can do but scream
When the fanbase is left in despair, Odalene, Odalene

Odalene, Odalene, Odalene, Odalene
Please stop with the fanservice, it’s not your best plan
Odalene, Odalene, Odalene, Odalene
Please don’t add more mysteries no one can understand

I had to have this talk with you
My sanity is on the line, it’s true
And whatever you decide to do, Odalene

And you could stick to your grand master plan
But stop with the shadowy figures, man
Cause we’re all just waiting for answers, Odalene, Odalene

Odalene, Odalene, Odalene, Odalene
Oh, I'm begging you, don’t stretch this out, please
Odalene, Odalene, Odalene, Odalene
Please don’t drag us through more plotlines like these
Odalene, Odalene...

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

One piece is fine.

Sometimes it's just not about the content but the user base.

It's running for 25 years so obviously sales would fall with time as it's difficult to keep old users hook up for such long time especially those who read weekly and attract new users who hesitate in picking up something so voluminous.

The thing is, last year One Piece sold 7.2M(with just 3 volumes) and this year it sold 5.2M(also with just 3 volumes), that are 2mio less reader and that is insane bro. I can understand if few people buy it less, but 2mio just in one year is insane and frightening.

I think we should also stop thinking that "everything is fine", because it doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe Oda really needs to think about how he can get his old readers back, because that's not a good sign and why?

In 2023 we were just in the middle of the Egghead arc, 2024 has all the content with Gorosei, Kuma flashback and the ending with Joyboy, but the fact that these 3 volumes earned 2 million less than the final phase of the arc is shockingly sad and makes you think about something maybe Oda could do that at least his old readers come back. Something must have spooked her. But I think that Shueisha and especially Oda have probably already discussed this problem with the sales, for us fans it might not be a big deal, but Shueisha and Oda will have already been worried about it, that's a lot of lost readers...

I hope that Elbaf arc can win back its veteran fans and even win new fans.

 

[moreha9685]

It is very depressing and shows One Piece's attitude. Shouldn't live action bring in more fans? At least as far as sales are concerned, you hardly see any of that. And the fear I had is confirmed that more One Piece readers are distancing themselves from the manga. And I think that's a shame. I mean, the anime is doing well, isn't it? We didn't actually have a bad arc with Egghead. The sales make you think and the numbers are going down more and more, which is not good.

The decrease in sales is organic simply because the peak was reached when OP fully became popular worldwide, so newcomers rushed to buy the backlog of volumes. Not all of those newcomers stuck around since. 10M was an impossible number to strike for every year.

That being said, there is also a more recent, 2020 on, decrease in sales as the demographic changes, with avid older fans (understandably) falling out of love with the story and newer fans being unable to fill the fandom with the same enthusiasm early manga generated and which current manga can't even hope to generate anymore.

The LA only brings fans to the LA; the very minority gets into the anime and even fewer into the manga.

Older readers are slowly distancing themselves because it's no longer worth the wait, what with the increasing reveals that Oda has no solid plan for most of the mysteries set up through the years, and that for those he does have a plan, the result is more underwhelming than the theories penned by fans through the decades.

The anime is not doing well. The new animation style in Egghead has been polarizing. Toei is rehashing FMI as a last cash grab before WIT starts their own adaptation next.

Personally, I don't expect OP to end with fanfare. It'll be with 4M yearly sales or it'll be with 6M; regardless of the numbers, it's going to be a dragging the feet across the finish line and not the BOOM Oda promised in his youth. He's stretched it too far and in the process lost his own passion for making this thing work.

Now it's a legacy thing. The longest shonen story in history. Whether it shits the bed or not in its last quarter, longevity is what will earn it its place in history books, rather than over-all quality.

 

[Poorsalino Cooker]

In first look this seems be amazing, but the sales rapidly falling down the past years with make me worry about the endphase of the manga if more breaks coming up and the sales keep going down like this...
As compare, here the sales of One Piece past years:

Since 2008 we always got insane large of volume sales each year, the past years it fall more and more below, last year One Piece sold 7.197.000 with is still amazing.
But this year only 5.1M is pretty mild if we count it for One piece standarts...

Usually One Piece sales are around 6-10mio each year..
It is very depressing and shows One Piece's attitude. Shouldn't live action bring in more fans? At least as far as sales are concerned, you hardly see any of that. And the fear I had is confirmed that more One Piece readers are distancing themselves from the manga. And I think that's a shame. I mean, the anime is doing well, isn't it? We didn't actually have a bad arc with Egghead. The sales make you think and the numbers are going down more and more, which is not good.

I hope next year things will calm down, but these numbers are really not a good sign.
Since the sales from this year are below of these from 2008, means since 16 years One Piece sales became lower than these of 2008...

Hope Oda will recover and find his strength to end this manga without rushing things.

I can't say I'm optimistic. The sales still seem stable but they'll never see the numbers they had in 2009 and 2012 again.

Aside from Wano and Whole Cake fudging things up, the constant breaks, and other factors, a lot of the blame imo can also be pinned on the anime's pacing and their handling of Nika. Social media and publicity kept hyping up the Nika anime debut as a moment that would break the internet and even surpass Super Saiyan Goku's debut in hype for both Eastern and Western audiences, a hype that never really lived up to the claims and just kind of fizzled out.

Many also tried to hype up the fact that western animators from WB were involved for Nika's Looney Tunes effects, despite traditional animation pretty much being dead in the west and that there are no animators these days at WB that really measure up to the animators from Looney Tunes' golden age or even Iron Giant's creators. So the Nika fight ended up looking even worse and less interesting than something like Naruto vs Pain without the meme potential, while Zoro, Lamato and Sanji all had far better animation for their fights than Nika could hope to dream of.

Egghead also didn't do the manga any favors with its ridiculous pacing, constant breaks and lackluster handling of characters. The only good moments that came from it where the parts that took place outside of Egghead which might as well have been their own arcs.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The thing is, last year One Piece sold 7.2M(with just 3 volumes) and this year it sold 5.2M(also with just 3 volumes), that are 2mio less reader and that is insane bro. I can understand if few people buy it less, but 2mio just in one year is insane and frightening.

I think we should also stop thinking that "everything is fine", because it doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe Oda really needs to think about how he can get his old readers back, because that's not a good sign and why?

In 2023 we were just in the middle of the Egghead arc, 2024 has all the content with Gorosei, Kuma flashback and the ending with Joyboy, but the fact that these 3 volumes earned 2 million less than the final phase of the arc is shockingly sad and makes you think about something maybe Oda could do that at least his old readers come back. Something must have spooked her. But I think that Shueisha and especially Oda have probably already discussed this problem with the sales, for us fans it might not be a big deal, but Shueisha and Oda will have already been worried about it, that's a lot of lost readers...

I hope that Elbaf arc can win back its veteran fans and even win new fans.

It’s a huge drop but don’t forget last year saw a spike in new readership due to the popularity of the live action.

 

[Bullet]

Last year would have been the conclusion of wano so that means a lot of fights and stuff so obviously more people especially teenagers would have been interested.
One piece will stay in this range until it ends.

 

[Reborn]

The thing is, last year One Piece sold 7.2M(with just 3 volumes) and this year it sold 5.2M(also with just 3 volumes), that are 2mio less reader and that is insane bro. I can understand if few people buy it less, but 2mio just in one year is insane and frightening.

I think we should also stop thinking that "everything is fine", because it doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe Oda really needs to think about how he can get his old readers back, because that's not a good sign and why?

In 2023 we were just in the middle of the Egghead arc, 2024 has all the content with Gorosei, Kuma flashback and the ending with Joyboy, but the fact that these 3 volumes earned 2 million less than the final phase of the arc is shockingly sad and makes you think about something maybe Oda could do that at least his old readers come back. Something must have spooked her. But I think that Shueisha and especially Oda have probably already discussed this problem with the sales, for us fans it might not be a big deal, but Shueisha and Oda will have already been worried about it, that's a lot of lost readers...

I hope that Elbaf arc can win back its veteran fans and even win new fans.

I think sales for this year has yet to be over to make a comment on it.


And, to me, it's not the content which is an issue. Egghead was fine arc if we overlook the ending part which is an issue since TS.

It's the breaks.

LA is getting focus to get new audience into one piece and milk it more but it's burdening oda and resulting into more breaks and is ending up alienating the older reader base.

Also, sales do not truly reflect the situation as well.

Let's be real - how many of us buy one piece volume? Hardly few yet we all read it. It's the same with anime community and other forums

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Issue is that in Japan One Piece really struggling with attracting new readers because of the lenght and they are not really into piracy there
it's hardly dramatic though, One Piece is and will stay a the top-selling series til the end there.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Last year would have been the conclusion of wano so that means a lot of fights and stuff so obviously more people especially teenagers would have been interested.
One piece will stay in the this range until it ends.

Last year had the content from chapter 1056 to 1088, lot of things happen there I agree, but this year also had the end of egghead arc phase with lot of stuff.

But it seems like people enjoy the endphase of egghead less than what they liked from chapter 1056-1088 which make your think that Oda handle the end of egghead not really well.

As I said 2mio less reader is a insane huge number, falling that low in just one year is really sad.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Last year had the content from chapter 1056 to 1088, lot of things happen there I agree, but this year also had the end of egghead arc phase with lot of stuff.

But it seems like people enjoy the endphase of egghead less than what they liked from chapter 1056-1088 which make your think that Oda handle the end of egghead not really well.

As I said 2mio less reader is a insane huge number, falling that low in just one year is really sad.

It's not 2mio less reader though, you gotta count per volume

 

[Bullet]

Did the LA really attract a new fanbase that would decide to start a 1000+ chapter manga?
I think it was mostly watched by people who were already fans.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Looking at volume sales is always misleading when discussing quality of the story for the sheer fact that the number one thing that effects volume sales is new readership

When a manga comes out with an anime that is done well, the volume manga sales fly through the roof. We saw it happen with JJK, and now it’s happening with Frieren. Not saying Frieren isn’t great, it’s amazing, however, there’s a reason the volume sales are increasing now after the anime released.

One piece is just too long. Very few people are going to look at one pieces 103 ongoing volumes and decide they’re willing to drop 1-2 thousand dollars in collecting all that.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Let's be real - how many of us buy one piece volume? Hardly few yet we all read it. It's the same with anime community and other forums

To be fair, I do xD.
But the sales usually are important for Shueisha, they care for stuff like that a lot.

 

[Reborn]

Issue is that in Japan One Piece really struggling with attracting new readers because of the lenght and they are not really into piracy there
it's hardly dramatic though, One Piece is and will stay a the top-selling series til the end there.

It's a worldwide thing.

One piece is so voluminous that people hesitate in picking it up.

1000+ episodes or 1000+ chapters and still ongoing acts more like a deterrent to pick it up.

And, its going on for 25 years and due to breaks number of chapters every year are declining - this is alienating old users as well.

But one piece is too big to fail. As you said, despite all of this, one piece still featuring in top 5 which speaks how successful this project is and it will continue to be so till the end

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I think sales for this year has yet to be over to make a comment on it.


And, to me, it's not the content which is an issue. Egghead was fine arc if we overlook the ending part which is an issue since TS.

It's the breaks.

LA is getting focus to get new audience into one piece and milk it more but it's burdening oda and resulting into more breaks and is ending up alienating the older reader base.

Also, sales do not truly reflect the situation as well.

Let's be real - how many of us buy one piece volume? Hardly few yet we all read it. It's the same with anime community and other forums

I have all the English volumes

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

It's not 2mio less reader though, you gotta count per volume

Agree.
3 volumes of 2023 sold in total over 7M...
3 volumes of 2024 sold in total over 5M...

Seems like the 3 volumes this year didnt sold well, I assume each one sold 500k less than in previous year sales.

 

[moreha9685]

I have all the English volumes

I have a single volume (31) in a language I don't even speak.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I have all the volumes up to the beginning of Dressrosa because that arc bored me so much weekly

 

[Reborn]

To be fair, I do xD.
But the sales usually are important for Shueisha, they care for stuff like that a lot.

Shueisha can't do shit to one piece.


I have seen videos of how massive one piece is in Japan....

And, I have never seen a fuckin manga or novel or any fictional series to be so massively big in any country.

Don't worry..one piece will remain popular until the end as even till this day it's still one of the best thing to read - I don't give weightage to weekly crying we see over here lmao

 

[Buusatan94]

It's been so long I have even watched a scene of the anime or read a paper manga of One Piece.