Controversial Will Kidd return?

Will Kidd return


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#42
I think Kidd is not done we know he has Conquerors so it’s still a big deal .

I definitely think he is in Elbaf probably recovering and he might be the one to release Loki and set havoc across Elbaf .
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There are 3 possible outcome

Option 1, He is Alive and will be relevant.

That is what I 99.99% believe in. That is by far the most likely outcome in my eyes. Oda did not introduce him as luffy's rival for nothing unlike what many people are thinking. I 100% believe that 1079 will just end up making him stronger and more relevant in the future. Kid's whereabouts was updated every single arc in the new world. His first fight was him beating a yonko, we are in elbaf rn, jimbei asked the whales to look underwater and he didn't find anything, etc , etc. I have countless other reasons but we are already in elbaf anyways, only a matter of time till we see him.

Option 2, He is Dead.
I do not believe this for a second but it is still an outcome. Maybe Shanks really just killed him, maybe his role was really just to deliver poneglyphs to shanks and then die, maybe his last role as a character was really to be a shanks hype tool and be killed right at the beginning of the final saga. 0.01%

Option 3 He is Alive and will not be relevant
This right here is by far the dumbest one and I can't believe that many people buy into it. Him being dead and removed from the story makes sense unlike this. Oda will not go out of his way to make Kid lose like that, to then bring him back to the story for nothing, that does not make any sense at all(unless you believe oda just hates him, which is what people unironically believe). Plus Kid is a conqueror like him or not but in term of willpower, he is up there with Luffy there is just no way that he is going to give up at best he could have a moment like luffy calling himself weak and then strengthening his resolve (by the means of a character arc or someone to get his shit together like jimbei with luffy). Some people have a weird fixation on hating and downplaying him and thus not rating him fairly.
Oda making him survive his loss to Shanks just for him to not be relevant anymore when he had Shanks tell us not to underestimate how far the young guys crew is simply stupid. That is not gonna happen 0%
Point 1 definitely and he will meet Loki and form Alliance .
 
#43
If he is, he’ll be a shell of his former self given up on his dreams and ambitions.

Genuinely best to leave him dead.
Nah, he won't give up his dreams. Kid is the type of character that will never give up.

At the same time though, I don't think he will be quite as prominent either.
I think he'll come back vengeful, maybe help in the final war
 
#44
Comeback to do what? Become Luffy’s cheerleader? Be careful what u wish for💀
Plot-wise he’s played his part imo and even if he isn’t dead which is plausible I’d be shocked if he’s re-introduced in any significant capacity as far as the OP is concerned anyways. We are in the final stretch for the OP, and like it or not there are gonna be losers & winners & Kidd is firmly in the earlier category. Don’t know what the lads saying he will defeat Shanks are smoking is like they are not paying attention to the story. Better be ready to see him glaze Luffy if he comes back 💀. Also don’t really see wat being a conqueror has to do with relevance either plot-wise in the grand scheme of tings. If anything Law has more of a chance given he’s a D.
 
#47
Nah, he won't give up his dreams. Kid is the type of character that will never give up.

At the same time though, I don't think he will be quite as prominent either.
I think he'll come back vengeful, maybe help in the final war
I mean, with his crew handing his dream away like that I genuinely don’t know what he’d do if he returns his character doesn’t feel at all connected with the greater plot, his story had him being defeated as a villain, and he just doesn’t have any reason to return.
 
#49
I mean, with his crew handing his dream away like that I genuinely don’t know what he’d do if he returns his character doesn’t feel at all connected with the greater plot, his story had him being defeated as a villain, and he just doesn’t have any reason to return.
If someone one shots Luffy and Zoro at the same time, right in front of the rest of SHs' face, don't you think they would capitulate and hand over the poneglyphs?

I don't think that would be equivalent to Luffy giving up his dream.
As long as they live, they can still come back and fight
 
#50
If someone one shots Luffy and Zoro at the same time, right in front of the rest of SHs' face, don't you think they would capitulate and hand over the poneglyphs?

I don't think that would be equivalent to Luffy giving up his dream.
As long as they live, they can still come back and fight
No? The straw hats showed that outright when they were told that Luffy died from Croc and Kaido they said he’ll be back and that they’d fight for him until he does. Hell, Nami saw Luffy and Zoro get one shot by Lucci and still didn’t surrender…

The straw hats would never give up the Luffys dream line that.
 
#51
No? The straw hats showed that outright when they were told that Luffy died from Croc and Kaido they said he’ll be back and that they’d fight for him until he does. Hell, Nami saw Luffy and Zoro get one shot by Lucci and still didn’t surrender…

The straw hats would never give up the Luffys dream line that.
See vs told.

I don't think Nami saw Lucci destroy Luffy and Zoro either. Wasn't she outside the whole time?

And anyway there is a difference between hearing, versus seeing and having the Victor staring you at the face.
You think the rest of SHs would pull bravado in front of an opponent that they have zero shot at, or try to save the life of Luffy/Zoro?

And anyway, we have already seen Kid's crew get bullied around - in Wano. They kept doing whatever was asked of them, cause they were threatened with taking away Kid's life otherwise.
Did Kid's dream end in Wano as a result??
 
#52
See vs told.

I don't think Nami saw Lucci destroy Luffy and Zoro either. Wasn't she outside the whole time?

And anyway there is a difference between hearing, versus seeing and having the Victor staring you at the face.
You think the rest of SHs would pull bravado in front of an opponent that they have zero shot at, or try to save the life of Luffy/Zoro?

And anyway, we have already seen Kid's crew get bullied around - in Wano. They kept doing whatever was asked of them, cause they were threatened with taking away Kid's life otherwise.
Did Kid's dream end in Wano as a result??
Nami physically saw Lucci send Zoro and Luffy flying.

And yes???? Fucking Franky and Brook pulled up on big mom by themselves without worry. Usopp saw Luffy get knocked out by Lucci in Ennies Lobby and told Luffy get up or Usopp will fight Lucci himself.

Like time and time again the straw hats have refused to give up on Luffys dream and showed they’d rather die than betray Luffys dream and trust. They’re not like Kid pirates because even Usopp is braver than them.
 
#53
We literally saw their swords reacting to one another, do you think we re just not going to get anything else after that?:endthis:
Yes. Why is this even a question?

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These guys didn't get the reality check even after Wano
It's like they didn't read Wano somehow. ZKK had a ton of build and set-ups, far more than just swords randomly reacting, and it didn't happen. But we're supposed to believe Lolda grew a pair even after that? :milaugh:
 
#54
There is only 5 gorosei lol, fairly limited spot for Kidd there is multiple characters more in line for the job such as zoro, Coby, law, Luffy, Shanks, Sanji etc.:endthis:
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What? I am waiting.
shanks is not fighting a gorosei. these enemies are going to lose to new gen members. shanks doesn't have his place in there
luffy has to fight imu he could fight both though , he did defeat 2 cp9 agents in enies lobby
coby? why would he do that over kid
zoro vs vnusjuro is set
sanji will probably fight one too but if that happens so will kid. oda is not gonna give zoro and sanji way stronger matchups than kid and law it was like that in dressrosa and wano and its going to be like that each time that they are fighting on the same side in bug arcs because these 2 guys are written like that. that is never gonna change
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If someone one shots Luffy and Zoro at the same time, right in front of the rest of SHs' face, don't you think they would capitulate and hand over the poneglyphs?

I don't think that would be equivalent to Luffy giving up his dream.
As long as they live, they can still come back and fight
people like that just repeat whatever popular opinion they hear without thinking for a second. It's kinda insane to me that people equates trying to save your captain's life betraying his dream. One guy proudly said "even ussop is braver" probably forgetting that in wano he wanted nami to not tell ulti that luffy will become the pirate king, what is this?
 
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#56
shanks is not fighting a gorosei. these enemies are going to lose to new gen members. shanks doesn't have his place in there
luffy has to fight imu he could fight both though , he did defeat 2 cp9 agents in enies lobby
coby? why would he do that over kid
zoro vs vnusjuro is set
sanji will probably fight one too but if that happens so will kid. oda is not gonna give zoro and sanji way stronger matchups than kid and law it was like that in dressrosa and wano and its going to be like that each time that they are fighting on the same side in bug arcs because these 2 guys are written like that. that is never gonna change
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people like that just repeat whatever popular opinion they hear without thinking for a second. It's kinda insane to me that people equates trying to save your captain's life betraying his dream. One guy proudly said "even ussop is braver" probably forgetting that in wano he wanted nami to not tell ulti that luffy will become the pirate king, what is this?
Shanks is definitely fighting his own father/relative garling.
 
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