Controversial General Political Discussion

[Jesse Pinkman]

I like Joe Rogan he is straight up badass but he is not good with regarding to Vaccine he is like RFK Jr . I can understand dark side of Vaccine but let’s admit Covid killed lot of people and I am certain he himself would volunteer to vaccinate himself and misguide his audience at same time.


I definitely don’t take him for gospel he can be nutty like Elon . He shouldn’t speak about some of the stuff he has no clue or have some expert join in his podcast .
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I don't trust that Jolani guy, he has that hidden violent energy behind his eyes that is so common in Islamists.
What if he frees the Isis nutcases?

I think Syrians will regret for supporting Right wing Extermist . Iraq and Afghanistan are good examples . Uncle Sam’s last target is Iran once it falls entire Middle East is under them it’s just matter of time really . Bush is gone but his ideas live forever .

Isis was created by Americans they had trouble with Baghdadi but it seems the new guy is following American tune now I am certain Trump will not involve and ignore Syria which will fall on countries like Germany and given the govt is do bad they will give million of € .
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Well Germany could have done quite a bit but they didn't because of 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

You're not,stop.

They why are YOU doing the.exact sane thing you are criticising but when you do it it's OK?

No i can get my info from real sources that are NOT to be found on a weeb forum.

False. There is a big difference between Islam the religion and Islamism, just like moderate Christians are not the same as evangelical fundamentalists

It's getting ridiculous
I'm talking about the extremist organizations that make public speeches in Germany calling for the establishment of a caliphate
This happened and if you don't know what you are talking about simply stop talking

More death and destruction awaits us. What? You expect things to die down and for eternal peace to grace our twisted societies? Keep dreaming then.

That's why fastfood should be boycotted among other reasons. It's strange that some people need McDonald's to be involved with Israel for them to stop buying their poison.

I was in Bielefeld last week I was shocked by sheer number of Middle East people they were calling f…Israel in front of Zara .

I blame Angela she is prime reason for shit show that’s happening when she allowed all refugees to enter inside .

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

BDS literally is criminilized in Israel because of those actions...but go on.

What does that have to do with Inaki? Do you think he's with the Israeli ops?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Al-Joulani and Zelensky look like the same person to me. It's fishy

And Assad looks British. Every time I see this guy I'm baffled at how British he looks. European & middle eastern DNA has been a spectrum for millennia obviously but Assad looks more European than he looks Arab.

I was in Bielefeld last week I was shocked by sheer number of Middle East people they were calling f…Israel in front of Zara .

I blame Angela she is prime reason for shit show that’s happening when she allowed all refugees to enter inside

What's always been fishy to me is he how the media made it look like an emotional response of hers. This was 100% calculated.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

And Assad looks British. Every time I see this guy I'm baffled at how British he looks. European & middle eastern DNA has been a spectrum for millennia obviously but Assad looks more European than he looks Arab.

What's always been fishy to me is he how the media made it look like an emotional response of hers. This was 100% calculated.

Even her own party disowned her after that decision that marked her slow downfall and it also marked rise of Afd (which was a joke party) now serious force lmao .

I’ma guess she wanted some sort of legacy to show she was compassionate leader by allowing Syrians and Afghan refugees . She still defends to till date what she did was right .

Media absolutely played huge role , most media house are sellout they are mostly propaganda of a govt .
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What does that have to do with Inaki? Do you think he's with the Israeli ops?

I literally saw BDS people using IPhone and drink in Starbucks 🤣 . It’s bs to begin with lol .

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/10/middleeast/israel-syria-assad-strikes-intl/index.html?

It's getting interesting or in other words: the wars never end but this ain't a novum

She still defends to till date what she did was right .

But of course it was. Destabilisation of the country is perfect for those guys.

I literally saw BDS people using IPhone and drink in Starbucks 🤣 . It’s bs to begin with lol .

What i said, it's performative tribalism, no intellect or common sense in those people.

 

[Logiko]

by doing a paid ad for a company is him "promoting the support of genocide"

This is exactly what it is ...



McDonald is helping Israel and its soldier and is therefore. by defaut a support of a genocidal and apartheid state. This is just a cold fact.

You might have some undiagnosed shit you should get checked out.

But "Logiko is the gaslighter" episode 2573

Inaki is an actor doing a job, not a high moral ground activist trying to look like a good person.

What a narrow, nihilistic and cynical vision of the world to see activists as people who try to have a moral high ground and just want to appear as good people...

Also, you are talking here to a guy (me) who - despite the criticizm of the ad - literally just watched a video of Inaki and laughed at it, because I actually like the guy. So... in term of nuance and awareness, you are not really in the top 10.

However, and it's insane I even need to say this, but harassing a random actor who played a character because he did an ad for said company is ridiculous. Go after the CEO or Corporate, not the guy who got paid to promote some product for it.

Harassing ? For the love of Oda. You guyz are out of touch. At best I saw people say that they won't watch the live action anymore. And there is only ONE top comment on his recent instagram post.

Relax. People are right to be triggered by this add and they are right to tell that to the actor because - in case you didn't notice it - he is now one of the face of One Piece.

Aye I have zero issues with the boycott, I need to make that clear. But I have all the issues in the world with people who think virtue signaling a man literally just doing a gig is okay because the company has done some shitty things.

Thinking like that, there is no limits and people can't keep others accountable. There is a reason why there is a call out here and not simply a boycott. People want to make it clear that they don't want a support for Gaza in the franchise.

This is what a political message is. Stop the depolitization please.

But it isn’t a moral imperative for people to do so.

Yes it is.

You can refuse to do it, but it is a moral imperative. You can't simply support a support of genocide and brush off the responsibility if you have the choice to do otherwise.

We are talking about a genocide here.

Nuance is lost and gone, and I hate how often I fall into crap like this.

Go tell to Palestinians that you want to keep your nuance mate.

It's like saying anyone who has a job is complacent in/supports capitalist exploitation and war.

tell people to stop using their phones computers social media Amazon and whatnot cause these things support genocide by backing Israel

The point your guyz are missing here is that : We should boycott ONLY if we have the choice to do things otherwise.

Your BS argument is the same as doing this:

For some, Mc Donald is not a choice, is simply the cheepest things to eat. But those are not the person that are targeted here. So you are completely missing the point. No one is telling to people in precarity to start boycotting, we are telling that to those who have a choice. Which includes this actor here.

So calling for hypocrisy in front of a boycott is simply not understanding what a boycott is.

Honestly with enough mental gymnastics this can be applied to anything.

No it can't, because you do not think enough to understand that people who are asking for a boycott are not asking it to people in difficulty, but to those who have the choice to do it. Which includes Inaki Godoy.

Everyone(including the mods) knows you make your shit out of your imagination all the time.

They think *
This does not make it a fact.

But indeed, a lot of people here can't accept scientific facts, some mods included.

Your lack of self awareness is fucking hilarious.

Coming from you, this is funny.

but let’s not pretend that just because a 20 year old actor did an ad for McDonald’s that automatically makes him a raging Zionist.

Of course. Inaki is most likely depoliticized.

Nuance here would be to denounce this ad but to understand that the guy can make a mistake and it's ok. As long as he understand why people are angry, there should be no problems.

Lil bro acting like not buying a McChicken will make a difference in the war. Go outside lmao

It WILL.

That's the point of a targeted boycott. There is a reason why BDS is criminilized in Israel and why MC Donalds started to buy back his Israelian firms.

while using a phone or pc to post on twitter lol

but let’s not pretend that just because a 20 year old actor did an ad for McDonald’s that automatically makes him a raging Zionist.

Of course. Inaki is most likely depoliticized.

Nuance here would be to denounce this ad but to understand that the guy can make a mistake and it's ok. As long as he understand why people are angry, there should be no problems.

Lil bro acting like not buying a McChicken will make a difference in the war. Go outside lmao

It WILL.

That's the point of a targeted boycott. There is a reason why BDS is criminilized in Israel and why MC Donalds started to buy back his Israelian firms.

while using a phone or pc to post on twitter lol

Incidents of vaccine-related injuries (including myocarditis and thrombosis) among those that received the vaccine present a stronger argument for not taking the vaccines vs taking the vaccines + booster pack combo if the presented symptoms of these "injuries" are worse than the disease itself.

No there is no "strong argument". It's anti-vaxxine fear mongering.

Those risk are extremily weak and do not twist the benefit/risk balance.

So the remaining 150 million+ people in the United States rejected the vaccines and the number of people that die from covid decreased? 🤔

Yes, because the later form of Covid are less strong and less likely to kill you.

Twitter is retarted lmao

Which is wrong:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1777313818365812775

I bought an Israeli chocolate bar today

I read all the posts made in last 10 pages


Now, I have only one thing left to do....

Go out and eat something at McDonald..

Imagine thinking yourself as a genius because you refuse to boycott a genocidal country out of spite for activists on twitter.

C4N has no credibility on "trust the science" when the science told us to wear masks, then double up and then triple up on them with "Covid". Big fat sham.

"Logiko has no credibility on "trust the science" when the science told us to be rationnal and avoid getting sick"

Sure virus is bad but not like how they made it up to being

Go say that to people who can't live normally now because they once had COVID you genius.

What does that have to do with Inaki? Do you think he's with the Israeli ops?

BDS aims at targeting the boycotts toward specific brands and not just all of them.

As such, they are targetting Mc Donalds and we should follow that call.

Inaki is simply doing an add for it and simply need to understand that the brand is problematic at the moment, that's all.

I literally saw BDS people using IPhone and drink in Starbucks 🤣 . It’s bs to begin with lol .

What i said, it's performative tribalism, no intellect or common sense in those people.

"I've seen activists use their phones, "It’S bS tO bEgIn WiTh lOl"

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You might have some undiagnosed shit you should get checked out

OK chill
Don't get ahead of yourself
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Yes ofc the guy on the right has a point. But it's not even hard to spot the problem his comic has: It's a guy in a modern shirt and haircut telling the guy living in the last what he should have done differently. Historical distance does a lot for clarity of mind.

 

[Reborn]

This is exactly what it is ...



McDonald is helping Israel and its soldier and is therefore. by defaut a support of a genocidal and apartheid state. This is just a cold fact.



But "Logiko is the gaslighter" episode 2573



What a narrow, nihilistic and cynical vision of the world to see activists as people who try to have a moral high ground and just want to appear as good people...

Also, you are talking here to a guy (me) who - despite the criticizm of the ad - literally just watched a video of Inaki and laughed at it, because I actually like the guy. So... in term of nuance and awareness, you are not really in the top 10.



Harassing ? For the love of Oda. You guyz are out of touch. At best I saw people say that they won't watch the live action anymore. And there is only ONE top comment on his recent instagram post.

Relax. People are right to be triggered by this add and they are right to tell that to the actor because - in case you didn't notice it - he is now one of the face of One Piece.



Thinking like that, there is no limits and people can't keep others accountable. There is a reason why there is a call out here and not simply a boycott. People want to make it clear that they don't want a support for Gaza in the franchise.

This is what a political message is. Stop the depolitization please.



Yes it is.

You can refuse to do it, but it is a moral imperative. You can't simply support a support of genocide and brush off the responsibility if you have the choice to do otherwise.

We are talking about a genocide here.



Go tell to Palestinians that you want to keep your nuance mate.







The point your guyz are missing here is that : We should boycott ONLY if we have the choice to do things otherwise.

Your BS argument is the same as doing this:

For some, Mc Donald is not a choice, is simply the cheepest things to eat. But those are not the person that are targeted here. So you are completely missing the point. No one is telling to people in precarity to start boycotting, we are telling that to those who have a choice. Which includes this actor here.

So calling for hypocrisy in front of a boycott is simply not understanding what a boycott is.


No it can't, because you do not think enough to understand that people who are asking for a boycott are not asking it to people in difficulty, but to those who have the choice to do it. Which includes Inaki Godoy.



They think *
This does not make it a fact.

But indeed, a lot of people here can't accept scientific facts, some mods included.



Coming from you, this is funny.



Of course. Inaki is most likely depoliticized.

Nuance here would be to denounce this ad but to understand that the guy can make a mistake and it's ok. As long as he understand why people are angry, there should be no problems.



It WILL.

That's the point of a targeted boycott. There is a reason why BDS is criminilized in Israel and why MC Donalds started to buy back his Israelian firms.

Of course. Inaki is most likely depoliticized.

Nuance here would be to denounce this ad but to understand that the guy can make a mistake and it's ok. As long as he understand why people are angry, there should be no problems.



It WILL.

That's the point of a targeted boycott. There is a reason why BDS is criminilized in Israel and why MC Donalds started to buy back his Israelian firms.





No there is no "strong argument". It's anti-vaxxine fear mongering.

Those risk are extremily weak and do not twist the benefit/risk balance.

Yes, because the later form of Covid are less strong and less likely to kill you.


Which is wrong:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1777313818365812775

Imagine thinking yourself as a genius because you refuse to boycott a genocidal country out of spite for activists on twitter.







"Logiko has no credibility on "trust the science" when the science told us to be rationnal and avoid getting sick"





Go say that to people who can't live normally now because they once had COVID you genius.


BDS aims at targeting the boycotts toward specific brands and not just all of them.

As such, they are targetting Mc Donalds and we should follow that call.

Inaki is simply doing an add for it and simply need to understand that the brand is problematic at the moment, that's all.




"I've seen activists use their phones, "It’S bS tO bEgIn WiTh lOl"

Imagine thinking you are an activist.

You are a keyboard warrior

 

[Logiko]

Imagine thinking you are an activist.

You are a keyboard warrior

What is an activist for you ?

 

[AL sama]

Imagine thinking you are an activist.

You are a keyboard warrior

you bothered reading??

 

[Reborn]

you bothered reading??

Whole post? Nah lol

Just his reply to mine

 

[Logiko]

you bothered reading??

You are not supposed to read the whole thing

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

What is an activist for you ?

Idk, what I DO know is that his whole internet presence consists of trolling and belittling other people. Yours, on the other hand amounts to nothing but virtute signalling and preaching about what is right and wrong while having very limited knowledge but lots of bias.

 

[Reborn]

his whole internet presence consists.

My whole internet presence? Woah... didn't know you stalk me all over the internet

 

[AL sama]

Just his reply to mine

pointless lol

 

[Logiko]

Yours, on the other hand amounts to nothing but virtute signalling and preaching about what is right and wrong while having very limited knowledge but lots of bias.

"A lot of bias" "So much limited knowledge" "Yours, on the other hand amounts to nothing but virtue signalling" >>>> LEFTIST LIBRARY

Mate. You just lost my respect once again :)

I was wrong to even consider you on our side because you have SOME progressive values. I don't know about the others, but at this point I can't just accept this type of rethoric. Not in this context.

And I know that you will see this as vertue signaling once again so there is no need to developp.

pointless lol

"Lol"

- Al, 2024

 

[Blax Blah]

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-sends-north-korea-elite-goats-1998315

Russia sends 100 elite goats to North Korea

"In early August, Russia's veterinary and agricultural watchdog Rosselkhoznadzor announced that it had cleared 447 goats for shipment to Rason, North Korea, which it noted as the "first batch of live animals" exported to the country.",

"
A hundred of these dairy goats arrived from Saint Petersburg on the other side of the country and were then bound for North Korea, having passed veterinary and customs controls, the FCS said.

Since the opening of a new route between the countries at Khasan in November 2022, 2,200 live animals have been cleared for shipment to North Korea, including horses from Russia's Vladimir Oblast and Holstein cows, an officer at the customs post said.",

 

[Logiko]

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-sends-north-korea-elite-goats-1998315

Russia sends 100 elite goats to North Korea

"In early August, Russia's veterinary and agricultural watchdog Rosselkhoznadzor announced that it had cleared 447 goats for shipment to Rason, North Korea, which it noted as the "first batch of live animals" exported to the country.",

I hope the population will benefit from that shipment... but I doubt it..

 

[Blax Blah]

I hope the population will benefit from that shipment... but I doubt it..

Apparently it is to help North Korea with their food problems, if that's the goal I hope it happens very soon ( so that the people there stop having food issues )

Also I haven't looked into this claim very much but I have heard that as people's situation physically mentally and spiritually improves they seek out improvement in a lot of things including the political situation,

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

pointless lol

Like everything humans do

I was wrong to even consider you on our side

Are you many now?

at this point I can't just accept this type of rethoric

Are you executing me now?

You just lost my respect once again

Ok.