Character Discussion The (Not-so) Great Debate: Did Saturn's explosives Hurt/Blow up Topman Warcury?

Did Saturn hurt Topman?

  • No

  • Yes, but not that much

  • Yes, he completely incinerated him


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TheKnightOfTheSea

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#1
This is a topic that I've seen discussed a few times, I felt a proper thread was in order.

I personally think that the answer is yes, and there's a lot of obvious reasons.

First, Brogy's dialogue. "You blew them to bits". I doubt he'd be referring to Saturn and Peter's decapitated corpse(to his knowledge). Although, granted it's possible Brogy didn't see. The explosions were pretty large.

Second, I would say that zoomed in Topman face on the first page posted below is a dead give away that the move is going to deal damage. Pretty common trend in mangas/comics to feature close ups of characters before they get hammered. Saturn and Kuma is a prominent example early in the arc.

Third, the obvious one, the silhouette. I don't see why Oda would draw Topman in the same silhouette as Peter and Saturn who were definitely regenerating, if we were supposed to believe he wasn't hurt by that attack. Though I'll acknowledge that his silhouette doesn't appear that different from his regular appearance, unlike Saturn who's clearly regrowing legs. You could also argue that Oda didn't want to spoil the "reveal" of Topman's durability, but this is the guy that has shown he feels the need to spoonfeed a lot of basic concepts to his reader numerous times. Oda's not expecting his reader to make these kind of inferences lol.

Fourth, I think this clearly is Oda explaining to his readers what makes the Gorosei such terrifying. They all have access to regeneration, and no matter if they're obliterated, they'll regenerate. The glass cannon can regenerate, the sucker can regenerate, the guy who fucked up the economy can regenerate, and even the durability monster can regenerate.





thoughts? I'd be interested in hearing arguments on why Saturn didn't hurt them

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#11
Well, the first argument that comes to mind is that they were not actually there or were there only due to a DF power so it's kind of hard to say if their powers were actually real or an illusion of sorts.
0 powerscalling can accurately be made from that; maybe the regeneration was due to the fact that they ''teleported'' to Saturn who has regenerating powers ?
 

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#13
It did nothing to topman warcury!

But why though?

Yes , those explosives were crazy
And it just makes sense that other gorosei can get past warcury’s durability
Yeah they all definitely can by portrayal

Though I think by feats Peter is the only one who's shown attacks who can do it. Emeth took no damage from punching Warcury despite Luffy taking damage, and Peter massively damaged Emeth without even using haki apparently.
No they didn't, but if they did, it was because of Luffy, not Saturn.
Well obviously Luffy is the reason they landed on the Gorosei. But the explosions clearly would have happened anyway. Look at Luffy's reaction: "what? they exploded"??
 
#15
It is implied they did, but considering how much of an outlier is Warcury's durability in One Piece verse, it feels wrong to just make that (probable) assumption for someone like Saturn.
 

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#20
It is implied they did, but considering how much of an outlier is Warcury's durability in One Piece verse, it feels wrong to just make that (probable) assumption for someone like Saturn.
Saturn's AP had pretty decent portrayal throughout Egghead

if we treat these explosives as his "best attack", I think them being this powerful makes sense. he is a top tier that's a glass cannon after all, he should have insane firepower if his other stats are ehh at best.

Yes it did, obviously. Real top tiers can injure Warcury.
you'd be surprised what people argue

speaking of real top tiers, Emeth's feat was pretty impressive. one of the best raw strength feats in the series and I don't see that ever changing
 
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