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Yo Tan Wa

Yo Tan Wa

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Reading through some posts in Spoiler thread i feel Some fans take Sanji dream of All Blue too lightly, even Sanji fans.

Just like Raftel, All Blue is also remoured to be just another lie that no one has seen or wtiness with their own eyes. I would need to do some research on it when i get time bt i feel like All Blue might be connected to ancient history n stuff.

And so if Sanji finds All Blue after SHs defeat Marines +WG and destroy Red line and Maryjois, thn it could be hardest to achieve among the SHs. For eg Luffy might become PK after reaching Raftel(good chances he will decude to destroy WG after learning the Ancient history) and Zoro just needs him to be individually strong enough to beat Mihawk.
 
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stealthblack

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#702
WillOfMyD said:
thunders three imo confirms Sanji will end the manga as a certified top tier
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luffy will have best crew ever, surpassing rox. not only I expect sanji to be top tier, but now I expect 2 more top tiers besides sanji, luffy, zoro i nthe crew. xd

as in they will be top tiers at some point not sure if by final war.( the 2 Others)


sanji did say he will be most feared by marines, can't do it if he is not top tier.

maybe jimbe and brook will be top tiers. or jimbe and franky, or robin??? Nami already has top tier weapon, zeus.:finally:
 
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L o g i a

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#703
Yo Tan Wa said:
Reading through some posts in Spoiler thread i feel Some fans take Sanji dream of All Blue too lightly, even Sanji fans.

Just like Raftel, All Blue is also remoured to be just another lie that no one has seen or wtiness with their own eyes. I would need to do some research on it when i get time bt i feel like All Blue might be connected to ancient history n stuff.

And so if Sanji finds All Blue after SHs defeat Marines +WG and destroy Red line and Maryjois, thn it could be hardest to achieve among the SHs. For eg Luffy might become PK after reaching Raftel(good chances he will decude to destroy WG after learning the Ancient history) and Zoro just needs him to be individually strong enough to beat Mihawk.
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They're all hard

What differs is Zoro's dream is an individual venture, whereas Sanjis is a group venture
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stealthblack said:
luffy will have best crew ever, surpassing rox. not only I expect sanji to be top tier, but now I expect 2 more top tiers besides sanji, luffy, zoro i nthe crew. xd

as in they will be top tiers at some point not sure if by final war.( the 2 Others)


sanji did say he will be most feared by marines, can't do it if he is not top tier.
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Yup

Previously I thought:
Luffy = Roger/Rocks
Zoro = prime Rayleigh, so around where Kaido/Sakazuki are now
Sanji = low top tier/highest YC1 Beckman/weakest Admiral
Jinbe = mid YC1 etc.

But now i think Sanji will be around as strong as the weakest Yonko today - which I believe is Shanks and around as strong as Fujitora

I dunno about two more top tiers, but Jinbe could easily reach the top end of YC1 tier if Sanji ends up as strong as I just said. That alone is unbeatable.
 
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L o g i a

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#705
#705
Yo Tan Wa said:
Yes i probably shouldn't have compared em.

But some think too lightly of it. I doubt Oda would make of the End game dream of major character a simple thing to accomplish, that he would randomly come across All Blue.
If destroying Red Line n Maryjois comes with it, it requires SHs Group efforts for Sanji to find All blue and then cook for em.
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Well sure, because as of right now the All Blue is only a theory. We don't know for sure if it'll be a result of the red lines destruction etc. we can only hypothesise.
 
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ZoroGang said:
There is no such thing as thunder three and it’s said they were already known they just met and joined together for an objective. Sanji doesn’t get the potrayal to put him anywhere near a yonko eos if you say Sanji can reach that strength so can nami
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That crew failed to become PK, Roger's crew did

Roger Pirates > Rocks Pirates
EOS Strawhat Pirates >/= Roger Pirates
Rocks crew had 3 fledgling Yonko. Admittedly weaker than they are presently, but still monsters nonetheless.

Nami can't reach that level. Dude, did you seriously just imply Nami =/>Sanji? LMFAO - Sanji's portrayal puts him just behind Zoro. It always has and always will be the case.
 
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L o g i a

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#708
ZoroGang said:
Lol seems like that’s something Sanji fans cling to that hasn’t been the case in years
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How has it not been the case? Explain your reasoning

Sanji has been portrayed by proxy to be just one step behind Zoro on the powerscale
Plus, it is highly likely he too has a similar character within Roger's crew and it's most likely Scopper Gaban. I know it's only theory right now, but it is a very likely one to turn out true.
 
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#715
ZoroGang said:
Sanji was only shown next to zoro once and that was enies lobby literally one time the rest is Gags luffy was shown equal with zoro in whiskey peak but no one takes us serious when we use that to scale zoro to luffy so why should we take scaling Sanji to zoro seriously
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Each time one gets a powerup, the other one also gets a powerup of equal magnitude.

Zoro and Sanji have been competitive against each other since they met. It would be uncharacteristic of Zoro to maintain that relationship if he doesn't acknowledge Sanji as a rival.

There's also Long Ring Long Land AND all the opponents thus far that are either equally matched, or clearly ranked but far stronger than the other opponents the SH's face besides Luffys.

Hatchan=Kuroobi (FM = COS)
Daz > Bon (by far the 2 strongest agents of BW)
Kaku > Jabra (10 douriki difference or whatever)
Ryuma zombie = Absalom (same rank)

Both have sacrifice scenes and heck, even within the sacrifice scene on Thriller Bark, Sanji is still up and running, just like Zoro - all the other SH's are fucked. This distinguishes both of them, together, as far superior to their crewmates, with the further distinction of Zoro > Sanji merely by virtue of Zoro fulfilling the sacrifice while Sanji did not.

they've been grouped together and are constantly remarked by the weaker crewmates as a pair/trio (including Luffy) of monsters

Then there's how in post-skip, we regularly get these panels of Zoro and Sanji doing the same feats e.g. vs Icaros and Dosun, vs Px-1, vs Surume

Luffy and Zoro were not shown as equals. You dismiss the rest as gag fights but fail to see how that fight too was a gag fight? Besides, Luffy's had 3 more powerups than Zoro now. He's way out of Zoro and Sanji's league.

I take scaling Zoro to Luffy seriously. Zoro and Sanji will have grown dramatically through Wano.
 
Chrono

Chrono

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WillOfMyD said:
Each time one gets a powerup, the other one also gets a powerup of equal magnitude.

Zoro and Sanji have been competitive against each other since they met. It would be uncharacteristic of Zoro to maintain that relationship if he doesn't acknowledge Sanji as a rival.

There's also Long Ring Long Land AND all the opponents thus far that are either equally matched, or clearly ranked but far stronger than the other opponents the SH's face besides Luffys.

Hatchan=Kuroobi
Daz > Bon (by far the 2 strongest agents of BW)
Kaku > Jabra (10 douriki difference or whatever)
Ryuma zombie = Absalom (same rank)

Both have sacrifice scenes and heck, even within the sacrifice scene on Thriller Bark, Sanji is still up and running, just like Zoro - all the other SH's are fucked. This distinguishes both of them, together, as far superior to their crewmates, with the further distinction of Zoro > Sanji merely by virtue of Zoro fulfilling the sacrifice while Sanji did not.

they've been grouped together and are constantly remarked by the weaker crewmates as a pair/trio (including Luffy) of monsters

Then there's how in post-skip, we regularly get these panels of Zoro and Sanji doing the same feats e.g. vs Icaros and Dosun, vs Px-1, vs Surume

Luffy and Zoro were not shown as equals. You dismiss the rest as gag fights but fail to see how that fight too was a gag fight? Besides, Luffy's had 3 more powerups than Zoro now. He's way out of Zoro and Sanji's league.

I take scaling Zoro to Luffy seriously. Zoro and Sanji will have grown dramatically through Wano.
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Kuroobi is stronger than Hatchan. Plus Wanze is above whoever Zoro fought. Not to forget Sanji fought the first antagonist of Saboundy arc which was Duval. Vergo is above Monet and Wadatsumi is above the Ocotopus dude lmao.

Zoro always fighting the second strongest is bullshit.
 
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#718
Chrono said:
Kuroobi is stronger than Hatchan. Plus Wanze is above whoever Zoro fought. Not to forget Sanji fought the first antagonist of Saboundy arc which was Duval. Vergo is above Monet and Wadatsumi is above the Ocotopus dude lmao.

Zoro always fighting the second strongest is bullshit.
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That's true

but in terms of the arc defining fights Zoro always fights the guy slightly stronger

Heck, Vergo stomps Pica too now that I think about it
 
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