Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

Once again, anyone who invests ≠ being a CEO of a healthcare company that denies people care. You made the comparison by saying I was a hypocrite for calling him out.

I never made this false equivalence. The voices in your head did. Comparison doesn't mean false equivalency. I never claimed this were the same. I already explained that calling out people messing with blood money in one industry while you deal with blood money from some other industry is hypocritical to me.
At this point you are just twisting what i say to save face.

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 7:03 PM

My guy Iranians consider themselves Aryans and has nothing to do with with the Nazis Aryan race.But that is irrelevant. The point is that there are more radicalized muslims than any other religion zealot and Europe has its borders wide open without doing pushbacks or quality checks.


The CEOs and the board members are what decide the direction of a company. If a company runs a " peasants" life to the ground with their sky high costs through highly expensive drugs(like insulin in US ) and the health insurance doesn't even pay half the costs through some loopholes,they deserve what they get if the end up in a ditch.


I wouldn't advocate such action,but I wouldn't feel sorry for them either. Some people can only act normally when their lives are at stake. I would say some politicians need that scare in their lifes as well to keep them in check. That's why they run amok right now,because they have the judicial deparment in their pocket and nobody touches them.

It's the system, bro. The laws that make this possible are the problem. It always boils down to cunt politicians in the end.

 

[Uncle Van]

I never made this false equivalence. The voices in your head did. Comparison doesn't mean false equivalency. I never claimed this were the same. I already explained that calling out people messing with blood money in one industry while you deal with blood money from some other industry is hypocritical to me.
At this point you are just twisting what i say to save face.

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 7:03 PM

It's the system, bro. The laws that make this possible are the problem. It always boils down to cunt politicians in the end.

Nope. Not at all. The comparison doesn't work if you have to generalize or be overly specific. You say blood money as if its limited to certain industries, when it's all of them. Whether it's oil, gas, energy, real estate, finance, consumables, retail, tobacco or health, they all indulge in exploitation and blood money.

So anyone who invests regardless of financial status would be a hypocrite if they call out a CEO for the specific reason of being in charge of a healtcare company, but deny care to those seeking help knowing their conditions could worsen or kill them. If I was invested in Healthcare or worse, UHC itself, you'd have a point.

That is no different than saying anyone who punched someone in the face is a hypocrite for calling out a mass shooter.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Ok? I never said anything about being equal either so don't know why you keep mentioning it. Once again, anyone who invests ≠ being a CEO of a healthcare company that denies people care. You made the comparison by saying I was a hypocrite for calling him out. Working under capitalism doesn't make you a hypocrite when you call out capitalism.

There’s no reason for you to try to have an honest to heart convo with a radical zealot.

 

[Mathias]

From time to time, I wonder if you're playing a character or if you're really that much of an extremist .

Wisdom lies on confusion

 

[Uncle Van]

There’s no reason for you to try to have an honest to heart convo with a radical zealot.

I'm just trying to make the guy notices his blatant implications. If you express your hatred of mass shooters and he responds with "Ironic since you punched someone in the face hypocrite. You and mass shooters both inflicted harm on people.", you'd be confused as hell. That's such a wild comparison lol.

 

[NAMELESS]

Nope. Not at all. The comparison doesn't work if you have to generalize or be overly specific. You say blood money as if its limited to certain industries, when it's all of them. Whether it's oil, gas, energy, real estate, finance, consumables, retail, tobacco or health, they all indulge in exploitation and blood money.

So anyone who invests regardless of financial status would be a hypocrite if they call out a CEO for the specific reason of being in charge of a healtcare company, but deny care to those seeking help knowing their conditions could worsen or kill them. If I was invested in Healthcare or worse, UHC itself, you'd have a point.

That is no different than saying anyone who punched someone in the face is a hypocrite for calling out a mass shooter.

That is Marxism bullshit. That is your belief, that is not how reality works. If believing that makes you sleep better, you do your thing.

I'm just trying to make the guy notices his blatant implications. If you express your hatred of mass shooters and he responds with "Ironic since you punched someone in the face hypocrite. You and mass shooters both inflicted harm on people.", you'd be confused as hell. That's such a wild comparison lol.

Who is making false equivalency again? Anyway, why is it you care what i think? Just do your thing.

There’s no reason for you to try to have an honest to heart convo with a radical zealot.

What a girly bait.

 

[Uncle Van]

That is Marxism bullshit. That is your belief, that is not how reality works. If believing that makes you sleep better, you do your thing.


Who is making false equivalency again? Anyway, why is it you care what i think? Just do your thing.

What a girly bait.

You really got way too much hatred for leftism lol. Even saying something so obvious and factual(every industry being shady), is somehow Marxist propaganda.

 

[NAMELESS]

You really got way too much hatred for leftism lol. Even saying something so obvious and factual(every industry being shady), is somehow Marxist propaganda.

That is not factual. That is you looking at reality with tainted glasses."Ohh yeah, the evil toilet paper industryI hate leftism cause i see it for what it is. My nation is run by people that practiced terrorism/guerrilla warfare in the name of the proletarian dictatorship 60 years ago. Inflation just hit new a high record, criminality is rising again and all hell is breaking loose because of commie Lula. Leftism is for fools, criminals, the lazy and envious.

 

[Uncle Van]

That is not factual. That is you looking at reality with tainted glasses."Ohh yeah, the evil toilet paper industryI hate leftism cause i see it for what it is. My nation is run by people that practiced terrorism/guerrilla warfare in the name of the proletarian dictatorship 60 years ago. Inflation just hit new a high record, criminality is rising again and all hell is breaking loose because of commie Lula. Leftism is for fools, criminals, the lazy and envious.

Red Scare propaganda to push a false equivalence....

 

[NAMELESS]

Red Scare propaganda to push a false equivalence....

I bet you never lived anywhere outside of America. You have no idea how vile communism/socialism(all the same in reality) is.

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 8:36 PM

Red Scare propaganda to push a false equivalence....

Anyway, it is who is pushing a false equivalence. I already explained my point. You are pulling a C4N on me right now.

 

[Uncle Van]

I bet you never lived anywhere outside of America. You have no idea how vile communism/socialism(all the same in reality) is.

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 8:36 PM

Anyway, it is who is pushing a false equivalence. I already explained my point. You are pulling a C4N on me right now.

Don't try to pull that again. You have agree with plenty of my posts about communism so don't pretend like I've turned a 180 or something. Appeal to emotion won't work here. In fact, since we're playing that game now, you don't live in America so why are you questioning me about how things work here?


And I have explained mine about how there's no comparison to being a CEO killing people. Using Red Scare propaganda to push something very specific doesn't change that.

 

[NAMELESS]

Don't try to pull that again. You have agree with plenty of my posts about communism so don't pretend like I've turned a 180 or something. Appeal to emotion won't work here. In fact, since we're playing that game now, you don't live in America so why are you questioning me about how things work here?


And I have explained mine about how there's no comparison to being a CEO killing people. Using Red Scare propaganda to push something very specific doesn't change that.

Except that we are not debating America. The whole thing was about blood money as a whole. I never agreed on anything on COMMUNISM, i did say that social democracy isn't that evil on principle. Don't try to gaslight me. Bro, just go about your day. You taking things personally now. lmfao

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 8:58 PM

Don't try to pull that again. You have agree with plenty of my posts about communism so don't pretend like I've turned a 180 or something. Appeal to emotion won't work here. In fact, since we're playing that game now, you don't live in America so why are you questioning me about how things work here?


And I have explained mine about how there's no comparison to being a CEO killing people. Using Red Scare propaganda to push something very specific doesn't change that.

Bro, you believe in "evil capitalism". You see reality by Marxist lenses. Anyway, i already said what i think about investing in Tobacco and similar industries,if you don't agree, fine. I'm just some guy online. Why are you so triggered by what i said. I'm legit laughing here.

 

[Blax Blah]

@NAMELESS I think it's really important to remember that socialism is not marxism, and anti-capitalism is not marxism either,

Edit: and also the USSR and China weren't marxist, they were leninist and maoist at the begining, stalinist and dengist later, and capitalist with the stated goal of communism, although a marxist state would have the same problems,

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I'm just trying to make the guy notices his blatant implications. If you express your hatred of mass shooters and he responds with "Ironic since you punched someone in the face hypocrite. You and mass shooters both inflicted harm on people.", you'd be confused as hell. That's such a wild comparison lol.

My guy, since when has shameless acknowledged or owned up to his radical views?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Germany is such a stupid country. I'm tired of this nonsense.

 

[NAMELESS]

@NAMELESS I think it's really important to remember that socialism is not marxism, and anti-capitalism is not marxism either,

Historically, Socialism has being synonymous to communism. Marx used both terms to describe his utopia. Plenty of authoritarianism is being perpetrated by so called socialist. Venezuela is a good example. Socialist=Communist. Look up scissors strategy.
https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/01/13/t...-method-for-agent-positioning/comment-page-1/

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 9:11 PM

My guy, since when has shameless acknowledged or owned up to his radical views?

You are too much of a pussy to directly quote me,so i will do the honors. Your home country is literally run by communists, drug lords and terrorists and yet you would never dare to return to your homeland. Meanwhile, you bash America. People like you are truly shameless. Hypocrite.

 

[Uncle Van]

Except that we are not debating America. The whole thing was about blood money as a whole. I never agreed on anything on COMMUNISM, i did say that social democracy isn't that evil on principle. Don't try to gaslight me. Bro, just go about your day. You taking things personally now. lmfao

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 8:58 PM

Bro, you believe in "evil capitalism". You see reality by Marxist lenses. Anyway, i already said what i think about investing in Tobacco and similar industries,if you don't agree, fine. I'm just some guy online. Why are you so triggered by what i said. I'm legit laughing here.

By your own logic, you yourself are taking this personally by dragging this on. I don't see why it's only personal when it's towards you. You made a crazy logical fallacy and is using Red Scare propaganda to push it.

And you're assuming again to make a point. What is this "evil capitalism" you make up? It's called Neoliberal Hypercapitalism.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Historically, Socialism has being synonymous to communism. Marx used both terms to describe his utopia. Plenty of authoritarianism is being perpetrated by so called socialist. Venezuela is a good example. Socialist=Communist. Look up scissors strategy.
https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/01/13/t...-method-for-agent-positioning/comment-page-1/

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 9:11 PM

You are too much of a pussy to directly quote me,so i will do the honors. Your home country is literally run by communists, drug lords and terrorists and yet you would never dare to return to your homeland. Meanwhile, you bash America. People like you are truly shameless. Hypocrite.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

You are too much of a pussy to directly quote me,so i will do the honors. Your home country is literally run by communists, drug lords and terrorists and yet you would never dare to return to your homeland. Meanwhile, you bash America. People like you are truly shameless. Hypocrite.

 

[NAMELESS]

Don't try to pull that again. You have agree with plenty of my posts about communism so don't pretend like I've turned a 180 or something. Appeal to emotion won't work here. In fact, since we're playing that game now, you don't live in America so why are you questioning me about how things work here?


And I have explained mine about how there's no comparison to being a CEO killing people. Using Red Scare propaganda to push something very specific doesn't change that.

You are confused. My comments on communism were unrelated on the previous topic regarding the CEO. Re-read the entire thing cause you lost track of what we were talking about. Anyway, don't bother replying cause i'm done with this.

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 9:31 PM

Its a nice avi, isn't it?