Powers & Abilities Conquerors = non conquerors

Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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Non conquerors can be just as strong if not stronger than those with conquerors

Just like with every power it can help make up for what you lack but in general both conquerors and non conquerors can be equals and both can even become top tiers
  • Shanks vs Blackbeard
  • Kid vs law
  • Doflamingo and Hancock vs crocodile and kuma
Imo these are examples of characters being comparable despite not all having it


While I wouldn’t mind at all being proven wrong it might be the case that oda is making the emperors conquerors and the admirals non. Despite that both groups are undeniably comparable despite the cope
Blackbeard referring to himself as admiral and also not having it would be a funny comparison


While again wouldn’t mind being proven wrong tbh it’s possible oda also goes the route with luffy’s main trios
Ace zoro and kid having it while sabo sanji and law don’t

Also while yeah I generally give the benefit to the conqueror of a “duo” for being stronger it doesn’t mean they’re not close
 
ArturCantSpeakJapanese

ArturCantSpeakJapanese

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Albino 👑 said:

Non conquerors can be just as strong if not stronger than those with conquerors

Just like with every power it can help make up for what you lack but in general both conquerors and non conquerors can be equals and both can even become top tiers
  • Shanks vs Blackbeard
  • Kid vs law
  • Doflamingo and Hancock vs crocodile and kuma
Imo these are examples of characters being comparable despite not all having it


While I wouldn’t mind at all being proven wrong it might be the case that oda is making the emperors conquerors and the admirals non. Despite that both groups are undeniably comparable despite the cope
Blackbeard referring to himself as admiral and also not having it would be a funny comparison


While again wouldn’t mind being proven wrong tbh it’s possible oda also goes the route with luffy’s main trios
Ace zoro and kid having it while sabo sanji and law don’t

Also while yeah I generally give the benefit to the conqueror of a “duo” for being stronger it doesn’t mean they’re not close
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blackbeard obviously does have conquerors haki. that entire speech by don chinjao you have a picture of in the OP is about how among the "countless" conquerors in the new world, the one who Chinjao thinks can stand atop all of the lesser conquerors is Blackbeard.
 
Warine

Warine

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ArturCantSpeakJapanese said:
blackbeard obviously does have conquerors haki. that entire speech by don chinjao you have a picture of in the OP is about how among the "countless" conquerors in the new world, the one who Chinjao thinks can stand atop all of the lesser conquerors is Blackbeard.
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Blackbeard doesn't have conqueror haki, if it was such a given, why didn't Oda has shown it
 
ArturCantSpeakJapanese

ArturCantSpeakJapanese

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Warine said:
Blackbeard doesn't have conqueror haki, if it was such a given, why didn't Oda has shown it
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because he had characters tell you in dialogue he has it, and has shown blackbeard to have the personality for it (amasses powerful people under his flag, challenges and defeats other conquerors, ambition to rule the world, etc). he doesn't need to knock out fodder to prove it, he obviously has it and you should make a bet or a name change thread or something if you really think he doesnt.
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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ArturCantSpeakJapanese said:
because he had characters tell you in dialogue he has it, and has shown blackbeard to have the personality for it (amasses powerful people under his flag, challenges and defeats other conquerors, ambition to rule the world, etc). he doesn't need to knock out fodder to prove it, he obviously has it and you should make a bet or a name change thread or something if you really think he doesnt.
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People have used that dialogue to also push admirals to also have CoC which we also see is not true. And idk what you’re talking about, Chinjao said that IF there is one member of the Worst Generation with the potential to be pirate king it would LIKELY be Blackbeard.

There’s zero confirmation here that Blackbeard has CoC, just that Blackbeard is the most likely PK candidate from the worst generation.
 
ShadowStyle369

ShadowStyle369

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Sir Yasheen said:
People have used that dialogue to also push admirals to also have CoC which we also see is not true. And idk what you’re talking about, Chinjao said that IF there is one member of the Worst Generation with the potential to be pirate king it would LIKELY be Blackbeard.

There’s zero confirmation here that Blackbeard has CoC, just that Blackbeard is the most likely PK candidate from the worst generation.
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Friendly reminder.... BB will have coc as well as the admirals :steef::BigW:
 
ArturCantSpeakJapanese

ArturCantSpeakJapanese

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Sir Yasheen said:
People have used that dialogue to also push admirals to also have CoC which we also see is not true. And idk what you’re talking about, Chinjao said that IF there is one member of the Worst Generation with the potential to be pirate king it would LIKELY be Blackbeard.

There’s zero confirmation here that Blackbeard has CoC, just that Blackbeard is the most likely PK candidate from the worst generation.
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he said if there's anyone who can stand above all the countless conquerors in the sea its blackbeard. also admirals do probably have coc idk what proves they dont.
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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ArturCantSpeakJapanese said:
he said if there's anyone who can stand above all the countless conquerors in the sea its blackbeard. also admirals do probably have coc idk what proves they dont.
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You’re combining two very different sentences. The quote about Blackbeard was when he was shitting on how the Worst Generation have been jokes in the new world, not about the countless conquerors line.

And kuzan vs Garp showed kuzan does not have CoC.
 
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JoNdule

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Albino 👑 said:

Non conquerors can be just as strong if not stronger than those with conquerors

Just like with every power it can help make up for what you lack but in general both conquerors and non conquerors can be equals and both can even become top tiers
  • Shanks vs Blackbeard
  • Kid vs law
  • Doflamingo and Hancock vs crocodile and kuma
Imo these are examples of characters being comparable despite not all having it


While I wouldn’t mind at all being proven wrong it might be the case that oda is making the emperors conquerors and the admirals non. Despite that both groups are undeniably comparable despite the cope
Blackbeard referring to himself as admiral and also not having it would be a funny comparison


While again wouldn’t mind being proven wrong tbh it’s possible oda also goes the route with luffy’s main trios
Ace zoro and kid having it while sabo sanji and law don’t

Also while yeah I generally give the benefit to the conqueror of a “duo” for being stronger it doesn’t mean they’re not close
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Kidd >= Law
But Doffy is weaker than Croco though
He's a weakling

Teach has CoC obviously
 
ShadowStyle369

ShadowStyle369

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Sir Yasheen said:
Kuzan and Kizaru def don’t have CoC lmao

You need to stop the all top tiers have CoC train, they don’t.
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lol i will not stop :milaugh: i argued for years with friends that Zoro would have it because rayleigh said Most who have made a name for themselves in this world have it, and zoro would have it because he was a character that wanted to make a name for himself. Argued for Mihawk having it because he stood atop all swordsmen and fought with shanks who displayed it.

Now i know Most does not mean everyone, but the admirals stand atop the marines as the "ultimate military force". I am not gonna sit here and say they do not have it when garp a vice admiral has it, and Sengoku the previous fleet admiral has it.

Lastly as for BB he will without a doubt have it the man screams ambition, and yet for some odd reason u don't wanna admit to that. :milaugh:
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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ShadowStyle369 said:
lol i will not stop :milaugh: i argued for years with friends that Zoro would have it because rayleigh said Most who have made a name for themselves in this world have it, and zoro would have it because he was a character that wanted to make a name for himself. Argued for Mihawk having it because he stood atop all swordsmen and fought with shanks who displayed it.

Now i know Most does not mean everyone, but the admirals stand atop the marines as the "ultimate military force". I am not gonna sit here and say they do not have it when garp a vice admiral has it, and Sengoku the previous fleet admiral has it.

Lastly as for BB he will without a doubt have it the man screams ambition, and yet for some odd reason u don't wanna admit to that. :milaugh:
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Ambition is not the same as a conqueror. Don Krieg and Tashigi are proof of that.

Kuzan we’ve seen fight no CoC. Kizaru we’ve seen fight no CoC. Those two aren’t conquerors and never will be.

Idk what the agenda even is dor them to be conquerors
 
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