Do you get the death penality for these things in the West?
No, in the west pedos and rapists get 2 years probation 🤡

If they’ve raped children then ideologically I’m not opposed. What makes me hesitant is getting the wrong people, that’s why I oppose the death penalty.
I disagree but you do you I guess :kayneshrug:
Executing 2 or 3 innocents a year is actually not as bad as letting killers and pedos run free. Y'all's perspective is rather individualistic.
 
Either execute or let run free. Gotcha.
The prison system eats too many resources that could be used for the benefit of society. More equality and happier people => less crime.
That's what crime prevention should look like.
Modern prisons are a multimillion dollar industry that only exists for profit, just like the poison industry uhm sorry the agricultural and pharma industry.
 
If they’ve raped children then ideologically I’m not opposed. What makes me hesitant is getting the wrong people, that’s why I oppose the death penalty.
:seriously:

- Let's act as if death penalty is a deterent... Wait, it's not.
- And let's act like carceralism is the solution to resolve societal problem.. Wait, it's not.

Through death penalty we only seek blood. It's not justice, it's murder. Those who really seek justice also understand that while rapist and active pedophiles did horrible things, they are also influenced by systems that uncompass the entire population.

In other word, killing those guy is just a way not to look at ourselves and pounder the question "What if I could be influenced to do those type of things to". Because spoiler, you are, WE ALL are as men. That's the point of patriarchy.

So fighting patriarchy is understanding that actions are created because of the choices under the influences of a system. So by targetting a life and essentializing the guy to his horrible action, we are :

1. Preventing anyone from targetting the right problem. Since carceralism and death sentences are literally opposite to feminism and anticapitalistic fights
2. We suppress a life that could be turned around through a better system just because we want revenge.

In short, this is a bad solution.
 
:seriously:

- Let's act as if death penalty is a deterent... Wait, it's not.
- And let's act like carceralism is the solution to resolve societal problem.. Wait, it's not.

Through death penalty we only seek blood. It's not justice, it's murder. Those who really seek justice also understand that while rapist and active pedophiles did horrible things, they are also influenced by systems that uncompass the entire population.

In other word, killing those guy is just a way not to look at ourselves and pounder the question "What if I could be influenced to do those type of things to". Because spoiler, you are, WE ALL are as men. That's the point of patriarchy.

So fighting patriarchy is understanding that actions are created because of the choices under the influences of a system. So by targetting a life and essentializing the guy to his horrible action, we are :

1. Preventing anyone from targetting the right problem. Since carceralism and death sentences are literally opposite to feminism and anticapitalistic fights
2. We suppress a life that could be turned around through a better system just because we want revenge.

In short, this is a bad solution.
Don't be obtuse, I said I opposed the death penalty in the first place. Don't pick fights with me.
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Appealing to emotions and not interacting with my post. I thought you are better than this.
Such an obvious bait.
 
Studies. Death penalty has is not a deterrent and is ineffecient to prevent crimes.


Don't be obtuse, I said I opposed the death penalty in the first place. Don't pick fights with me.
Dude, you can't expect me to ignore you when you are repeating the pro carceral rethorics of those guys. Plus, I'm not disrespecting you here. Just showing you why it's really not the solution so you understand why anti-carceralism is a necessity to fight capitalism and patriarchy.

>> See ? >>
oh look, something we can agree on !
I told you guyz, when Nameless starts to agree with you, it's not a good sign.
 
Who brought up the deterrent stuff
No one. It's was not meant as a reply, but as an argument showing why sayin "let's kill criminals" is bad.


Death penalty removes dangerous people from society so they can't do dangerous shit. That's what it's for.
No it does not. If that was the case there would be no oppressions, no wars, no genocides. And women would not have to fear every night when they go out in the streets.

Death penalty is not only wrong or bad, it's inefficient and counter productive.
 
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