General & Others Shanks Blackbeard and Mihawk: 3 paths of strength

#27

Shanks is mainly associated with haki, Blackbeard devil fruits, and mihawk swords

While each path is different I think each “power” might follow the same pattern. That pattern imo being each going back to mind, body, and soul/spirit


Haki is pretty self explanatory

Haki being an extension of each

  1. Observation being of the mind
  2. Armament being of the body
  3. Conquerors being of the spirit/soul
Devil fruit classes also fit that same theme


  1. Paramecia being powers that are based on the mind. Them being all about dreams and creativity
  2. Zoans being powers that are based on the body. That being pretty self explanatory
  3. Logia potentially being powers that are based on the spirit/soul. Maybe changing your spirit to reflect that natural force



It also applies to the awakenings of those fruits. While yes you need your body and mind to catch up to the powers the powers you get still reflect each

  1. Paramecia awakenings allow you to in a way expand your mind to affect things in your surroundings. Including inanimate objects
  2. Zoan awakenings just gives you access to an overall stronger better transformation enhancing your body further
  3. Logia awakenings although we don’t have any confirmation what it is yet it probably relates to the spirit. If the theory of them being able to make separate living things based on their logia powers similar to big moms homies it’d make sense. It basically giving life/soul/spirit or whatever you want to call it to their powers
Imo special blades/weapons follow the same theme as well

Like for oden and his blades I think
  1. Enma representing body. It obviously having ties to armament haki
  2. Habakiri representing mind. While we don’t know much about it I believe it also had its own special effect related to senses/observation haki
    • Both blades being opposites and balancing each other out
    • Him not having a blade to represent spirit/soul
For zoro I think he already has one of each


  1. Enma -> body -> armament haki
    • Pushed against king with him being a super durable and enduring dinosaur zoan
  2. Wado -> mind -> observation haki
    • Potentially being pushed against shiryu with him being a sneaky invisible man
  3. Sandai -> spirit -> conquerors haki
    • Idk if asura is necessarily conquerors but both are tied to spirit. Like I think logia’s might be related to spirit but yeah I don’t think conquerors is connected
    • Potentially being pushed against whoever the next major battle after shiryu idk
Bring it back to shanks, Blackbeard, and mihawk I think each will have the ultimate mastery of each in their respective fields


Shanks having full on mastery of each form of haki observation armament and conquerors


Blackbeard maybe not having full mastery of each of his fruits but at the very least getting 1 devil fruit of each class. With him currently only missing a zoan to finish off the trifecta


As for mihawk maybe with yoru being a supreme grade weapon and the strongest black blade it itself represents all 3. So unlike oden who needed 2 blades to represent mind and body or zoro who has 3 to represent all 3 yoru is just that special a blade
Oden's father says that Emma can be a black sword



Mihawk already has a black sword, Yoru is the most powerful sword in the world.
 
#29
Basically saying Mihawk isn't that special but his sword is
Being able to master something difficult to master that most aren’t capable of doing inherently makes both the user and weapon special

Enma being special is oden downplay. It’s just another way to show how good oden is for being capable of mastering it
Stop wasting time to make threads about Mihawk or so

Just talk about other characters

Mihawk isn't that strong
He's barely a top tier who relies on empty title and bounty to be top tier. Oda doesn't care about him
Tbh I was just gonna talk about shanks and Blackbeard at first with how haki and devil fruits relate to the mind body and soul
I just think special weapon might follow the same pattern based on zoro and oden
Oden's father says that Emma can be a black sword



Mihawk already has a black sword, Yoru is the most powerful sword in the world.
Yoru might be the single most difficult blade to master or at least one of the most
 
#31
What about the fourth way? The devil fruit you ate was secretly a mythical zoan and it turns you into a literal god that wasn´t mentioned for over one thousand chapters?
The nika fruit is still just a devil fruit tho it being special it’s basically both a paramecia and zoan. Tho it wouldn’t surprise me if it also had logia properties too later on
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#33
The usual cope about Mihawk's strength aside, there are some interesting parts to this mind, body and spirit thing.
So far we have been focused mainly on mind and body while spirit was there the whole time in front of our noses...

Blackbeard is stuffing himself with Devil fruits, manifestations of someone else's desire in order to achieve strength.
Shanks is mainly known for the strength of his crew while Mihawk is known for his individual strength.

Right now, there is no visible difference in the path to power between Shanks and Mihawk.
Both chose the path of the hakimen but Mihawk reached the heights that Shanks couldn't reach.

The issue is that mind and spirit overlap way too much so they might be one and the same thing in One Piece.
 
#34
Being able to master something difficult to master that most aren’t capable of doing inherently makes both the user and weapon special

Enma being special is oden downplay. It’s just another way to show how good oden is for being capable of mastering it

Tbh I was just gonna talk about shanks and Blackbeard at first with how haki and devil fruits relate to the mind body and soul
I just think special weapon might follow the same pattern based on zoro and oden

Yoru might be the single most difficult blade to master or at least one of the most
Your mistake is trying to make it seem like Oda cares about Mihawk

There's nothing deep there
 
#37
Your mistake is trying to make it seem like Oda cares about Mihawk

There's nothing deep there
He’s still a top tier
Also I don’t think it’s exclusively mihawk which is why I included oden and zoro as reference. All main op powers following the mind body and spirit theme would be interesting

I get it you don't like mihawk. What exactly proves that mihawks haki is inferior to shanks other than your headcanon?

We know more about shanks abilities than mihawks. Mihawk never used a named attack up to this date.
Shanks has the most hyped haki mastery of any living character
 
#39

Shanks is mainly associated with haki, Blackbeard devil fruits, and mihawk swords

While each path is different I think each “power” might follow the same pattern. That pattern imo being each going back to mind, body, and soul/spirit


Haki is pretty self explanatory

Haki being an extension of each

  1. Observation being of the mind
  2. Armament being of the body
  3. Conquerors being of the spirit/soul
Devil fruit classes also fit that same theme


  1. Paramecia being powers that are based on the mind. Them being all about dreams and creativity
  2. Zoans being powers that are based on the body. That being pretty self explanatory
  3. Logia potentially being powers that are based on the spirit/soul. Maybe changing your spirit to reflect that natural force



It also applies to the awakenings of those fruits. While yes you need your body and mind to catch up to the powers the powers you get still reflect each


  1. Paramecia awakenings allow you to in a way expand your mind to affect things in your surroundings. Including inanimate objects
  2. Zoan awakenings just gives you access to an overall stronger better transformation enhancing your body further
  3. Logia awakenings although we don’t have any confirmation what it is yet it probably relates to the spirit. If the theory of them being able to make separate living things based on their logia powers similar to big moms homies it’d make sense. It basically giving life/soul/spirit or whatever you want to call it to their powers
Imo special blades/weapons follow the same theme as well

Like for oden and his blades I think
  1. Enma representing body. It obviously having ties to armament haki
  2. Habakiri representing mind. While we don’t know much about it I believe it also had its own special effect related to senses/observation haki
    • Both blades being opposites and balancing each other out
    • Him not having a blade to represent spirit/soul
For zoro I think he already has one of each


  1. Enma -> body -> armament haki
    • Pushed against king with him being a super durable and enduring dinosaur zoan
  2. Wado -> mind -> observation haki
    • Potentially being pushed against shiryu with him being a sneaky invisible man
  3. Sandai -> spirit -> conquerors haki
    • Idk if asura is necessarily conquerors but both are tied to spirit. Like I think logia’s might be related to spirit but yeah I don’t think conquerors is connected
    • Potentially being pushed against whoever the next major battle after shiryu idk
Bring it back to shanks, Blackbeard, and mihawk I think each will have the ultimate mastery of each in their respective fields


Shanks having full on mastery of each form of haki observation armament and conquerors


Blackbeard maybe not having full mastery of each of his fruits but at the very least getting 1 devil fruit of each class. With him currently only missing a zoan to finish off the trifecta


As for mihawk maybe with yoru being a supreme grade weapon and the strongest black blade it itself represents all 3. So unlike oden who needed 2 blades to represent mind and body or zoro who has 3 to represent all 3 yoru is just that special a blade
Wrong as always.

This is what Mihawk thinks about swords.

He said, without subtlety a sword is just an iron bar. To him, even a supreme grade black blade is just an iron bar if you don't have power, strength, and skills.

A swordsman strength, power, and skills are the important thing, not the sword. Swords are just tools used to channel a swordsman power and skill through. The manga that makes that clear multiple times.

The manga stated Mihawk has greater sword skill than Shanks, not a greater sword.


Whether a character can create a black blade is determined by their strength, not the sword.

Zoro stated by the time he gets used to enma he would be much stronger. His growth from mastering enma was obtaining ACoC and overwhelming haki that he can apply to any sword.

All of Zoro's major growth post time skip are haki growth. He went from scaring Kaido and Big Mom with his haki, to scarring Kaido, to scarring King, to forcing a Gorosei to block his haki attack. They only block or evade attacks that concern them.

The only power that affected the Gorosei on Egghead Island was Joyboy level haki. Zoro forcing a Gorosei to block his haki attack says a lot about his haki strength and prove it's the user, not the sword that's important.

As you can see, sword don't give you anything. The power comes from them and they channel their power through their sword.
 
#40
Mastering strong weapons makes you strong. Odens mastery of enma and habakiri making him stronger is not a bad thing. Oden with 2 basic no named katana is definitely inferior

Also shanks and even Blackbeard both have weapons and both use haki. Tho unlike mihawk I don’t think their main focus is to get stronger through mastery of their weapons

Where is Shanks main focus on imbuing his AdCoC at? He gonna start to leash out Advanced CoC Headbutts and Kicks? He always fought so far with his Sword for a Reason (Vs Kid/ Vs Whitebeard/ Vs Akainu)
 
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