Why is logiko even bending over backwards to defend current day islam lmaoooo

A lot of religions have outdated views on society, but they can change over time. Christianity has reformed multiple times over the thousands of years it's been on earth.
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It sounds like the typical "never renounce your faith" speech all monotheist religions have no?
He does that cause he think they are a persecuted minority.
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Really hammering home the races. Gotta make sure people know that...
Races?
 
Materialist understand that that bad behaviors and bad systems in religions are only the products of one of the oppressive systems in the world.

In religion, the main one is patriarchy.
You know how old Abrahamic religions are? and on top of that they are descendants of the oldest religions.

Like either patriarchal societies are inherent or patriarchal norms come from our oldest societies, and have been promoted by religion. At that point I don't know how you can't say the patriarchy is the problem when they are so intertwined with said religion
 
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I was replying to this (which isthe FIRST sentence of the post and an affirmation of general truth and not an experience).

"muslims' inability to accept blasphemy or criticism of Islam has nothing to do with them being targeted. Instead, it stems from deep seated indoctrination"

Systemic Islamophobia in the west is a scientific fact. END of discussion. I'm gonna ignore you on this subject from this point on.
Do you realize you sound like a spoiled kid when you speak your mind and then say "i'm gonna ignore you on this"?
 
The Twitter link. The OP said "brave women saves young white girl from her black rapist." Any point to mentioning the races? Lol
Ahhh I see, well, that is what happened. Many migrants from North Africa in the UK. Am i supposed to be quiet when a black man commits a crime? Aren't you a cop, don't you make physical descriptions of people(profiling) all day? Plz, stop. I hope this was a joke and i'm missunderstanding your post.
 
Why is logiko even bending over backwards to defend current day islam lmaoooo
He is defending muslims though, not islam
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Islam is oppressive because of patriarchy not because it's Islam.
This is so retarded its actually amazing.

Patrairchy is ingrained in islam. So yeah, it is because it is islam. Patriarchy also isnt the only issue with islam anyway.

Clown
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Because my understanding of the oppressions of the world is a little more complex than "religion = bad)
Weird, because that wasnt even remotely what i was saying
 
Ye right because every muslim in the world is oppressed, even if they live in muslim majority countries where non-muslim minorities are under oppression. Miss me with this shit

Even if this point was legit, its still not an excuse to exploit this term to brand people as racists for disliking your religion.
Well there are two layers to that.

1. Every muslims in the world are not oppressed like muslim in the west or in countries like Chine.
2. Every muslims in the world is indeed oppressed by patriarchy that acts through Islam. Islam being simply a tools for patriarchy to be really effective.

And let's be honest, Muslim around the world (in non western societies) do not use the term "racist" when blaming blasphemy, they usually are triggered but they are not using progressive rethoric.

Those who do are the ones in the west. And in the west, they are all oppressed beyond this type of what they call "blasphemy". They are simply not talking about it unless they are leftists.

On top of that, you will most likely see blasphemy in circle that are highly islamophobic as leftist usually understand that we should not put more pressure on people who are already oppressed. So I think we can forgive the few ones who use blasphemy and the concept racism as a way to express their frustration because :

1. They have other reasons to be angry
2. They are most of the time right and there is indeed islamophobia behind the hatred of islam.


Bitch i dont come from such a background. Dont speak for me
I do. I was Islamophobic and therefore I fully understand how islamophobia works.

You know how old Abrahamic religions are? and on top of that they are descendants of the oldest religions.

Like either patriarchal societies are inherent or patriarchal norms come from our oldest societies, and have been promoted by religion. At that point I don't know how you can't say the patriarchy is the problem when they are so intertwined with said religion
Patriarchy was created at the start of the neolithic period. It's much older than every religions on the planet.

Religions are for the most part, ideological and textual forms of patriarchy mixed with teachings and politics relative to the time of their creations.


Do you realize you sound like a spoiled kid when you speak your mind and then say "i'm gonna ignore you on this"?
I tried to talk with you and discuss factual datas for 2600 pages.

I'm done now.


This is so retarded its actually amazing.

Patrairchy is ingrained in islam. So yeah, it is because it is islam. Patriarchy also isnt the only issue with islam anyway.

Clown
And this is why I've stopped trying to talk with you guys.
 
Patriarchy was created at the start of the neolithic period. It's much older than every religions on the planet.

Religions are for the most part, ideological and textual forms of patriarchy mixed with teachings and politics relative to the time of their creations.
Okay, so your belief is that it is inherent to our society. Doesn't that mean we are predisposed to be a patriarchal society? Similar to other big apes?
 
I too think this sexuality is plastic. Plenty of cases of gay men suddenly going "i want a family" and then marrying a woman. I don't understand why people get so heated about this.
Agreed, people are too rigid with sexuality. Ironically leftist have gone from the liberal "sexuality is flexible" to making their sexuality their identity, leaving very little for exploration.

I also think the same with gender expression. Feminine men and Masculine women have always been around. Doesn't inherently mean they are the opposite gender nor they are attracted to the same.
 
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