Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

[Albino 👑]

Oh definitely but I quickly took a turn in WG. Iirc, I was just posting my stupid posts for a few months at the beginning of WG before I completely changed my stance.
That's what happen when you just looked at feats in OP powerscaling. I learned my lesson.

What was your view on Doffy's powerlevel back in OJ?

Honestly I have more or less the same opinion on Doflamingo as I did back then tbh

Doflamingo being the second strongest warlord after mihawk and comparable to cracker. Tho matchup wise it’s way more in his favor due to how his awakening could react to his fruit. Katakuri being straight up a good amount stronger

The only thing that really changed for me is how I view emperor crews. I used to think they were going to be all exactly equal
I used to believe Jack was equal to cracker and king equal to katakuri. I even was even expecting king and Marco to be standouts having awakening, advanced haki, conquerors, etc.

So my thoughts on Doflamingo are the same honestly. Said he was comparable to Luffy and cracker back then and I still stand on that

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Honestly I have more or less the same opinion on Doflamingo as I did back then tbh

Doflamingo being the second strongest warlord after mihawk and comparable to cracker. Tho matchup wise it’s way more in his favor due to how his awakening could react to his fruit. Katakuri being straight up a good amount stronger

The only thing that really changed for me is how I view emperor crews. I used to think they were going to be all exactly equal
I used to believe Jack was equal to cracker and king equal to katakuri. I even was even expecting king and Marco to be standouts having awakening, advanced haki, conquerors, etc.

So my thoughts on Doflamingo are the same honestly. Said he was comparable to Luffy and cracker back then and I still stand on that

the second strongest warlord after mihawk is boa hancock

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Now in retrospective, my Doflamingo takes were completely retarded. Holy shit, what was I thinking back then?!

Maturing is realizing that Papa Lee was correct all along

 

[comrade]

I wasn't part of the admiral and sword alliance to begin with

The fact it took an alliance of admiral and sword fandom to fight the Wonko. Just like Marine HQ teaming up with Shichibukai.

 

[soupongo]

Like we learnt from zkk, zoro vs Kizaru
Zoro will fight nesujuro in a real fight
Zoro will KO lucci, kaku, serahwk,

Yes, we never learn

Zkk believers are just the most delusional part of the Zoro fandom who think he is the main character. But Oda showed him respect and had him save Luffy from Kaido and scar Kaido. Oda respects Luffy, Zoro and Nami the most

 

[MonsterKaido]

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is the page where he says ¨but the order he imposed was the deterent that kept predators from targetting your country¨ a different language from this one? It is all connected. Oda is trying to make a broader point

If you still can't read , I can't help you.

 

[soupongo]

If you still can't read , I can't help you.

I´m not the one ignoring the significance of Kaidos rule over Wano.

 

[MonsterKaido]

I´m not the one ignoring the significance of Kaidos rule over Wano.

Lol what rule? GB does not respect Kaido's crew. Kaido was the only reason he did not came. Kaido was the rule.

 

[Mr.9000]

Will BB make a surprise visit and recruit Loki instead, since their ambitions align? I would guess Dragon was also invited to join the holy knights.

 

[Ar1sE1998]

It's time to aura farm Zoro

 

[soupongo]

Lol what rule? GB does not respect Kaido's crew. Kaido was the only reason he did not came. Kaido was the rule.

So, for what reason do you think he came to Wano, in universe and from a meta perspective?

 

[MonsterKaido]

So, for what reason do you think he came to Wano, in universe and from a meta perspective?

In came after luffy specifically because Kaido was not there in wano any more.

 

[soupongo]

In came after luffy specifically because Kaido was not there in wano any more.

What is the connection? Simple as, this. When Kaido was around, he made sure no random pirates were hanging out at the flower capitol. That´s why he talks about the ¨order Kaido imposed¨.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

He immediately came post Kaido defeat. What makes you think GB personally cares about order? He wanted Wano to submit to CD if given opportunity.

Where was the order in Wano after Kaido’s defect exactly? There was no ingrained power like a Yonko crew to protect the country. Ryokugyu showed us how much the protection of the scabbards is worth. Ryokugyu coming to Wano to kill Kaido’s killer shows what he thought of Kaido as an individual.

 

[MonsterKaido]

What is the connection? Simple as, this. When Kaido was around, he made sure no random pirates were hanging out at the flower capitol. That´s why he talks about the ¨order Kaido imposed¨.

Again. The order is nothing to a top tier like GB. He can bring out marines and have them beat BPs due to superior numbers. The rule was there only because of Kaido. Remove Kaido the order would have not been there. So its one and the same. The order was created by Kaido and Kaido was the main reason GB didn't came in wano.

@Elder Lee Hung

 

[soupongo]

Btw, was the last time we got Luffy, Zoro and Nami together by themselves literally Jaya? This is crazy.

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if Loki can live up to this,he will be best new character in OP in many years

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

He can bring out marines and have them beat BPs due to superior numbers.

What manga are you reading? The Marine Vice Admirals were getting whooped by Bonney. These the numbers you think Green Bull can rely on to beat the Beast Pirates? Lmfao

The order was created by Kaido and Kaido was the main reason GB didn't came in wano.

Nah your whole argument is illiterate. If that were the case Green Bull would have never come to kill an awakened mythical Zoan (fast healing) who beat Kaido one week ago. Lmfao

Let alone that character’s entire crew and allies.

 

[Topi Jerami]

I wasn't part of the admiral and sword alliance to begin with. I had no interest in admirals vs yonko or yonko vs mihawk because I rather debated about YCs vs Doflamingo or YCs vs Luffy/G4 and sometimes mid tiers vs high tiers.

I had countless discussions with @Elder Lee Hung, @Veku, @comrade and @Plex about Doflamingo.
Now in retrospective, my Doflamingo takes were completely retarded. Holy shit, what was I thinking back then?!

I give it at longest 2 years, before you find your Admiral takes are completely retarded it will make your Doffy takes look sane in comparison.

 

[soupongo]

Again. The order is nothing to a top tier like GB. He can bring out marines and have them beat BPs due to superior numbers. The rule was there only because of Kaido. Remove Kaido the order would have not been there. So its one and the same. The order was created by Kaido and Kaido was the main reason GB didn't came in wano.

@Elder Lee Hung

You´re missing the point entirely. Kaidos influence keeps the beast pirates under control. Without him they would be doing their own thing. He keeps Orochis regime stable. Because of this, Wano has not been exploited under the pirate age. Greenbull was introduced by Oda to show this may no longer be the case....

 

[MonsterKaido]

What manga are you reading? The Marine Vice Admirals were getting whooped by Bonney. These the numbers you think Green Bull can rely on to beat the Beast Pirates? Lmfao



Nah your whole argument is illiterate. If that were the case Green Bull would have never come to kill an awakened mythical Zoan (fast healing) who beat Kaido one week ago. Lmfao

Let alone that character’s entire crew and allies.

Lol you won't get anything by going against the manga. GB didn't want to come solely due to Kaido. That was his reason. He had zero respect for BPs. Stop being a moron for once lee.

Lol luffy was literally in coma for 7 days before waking up. Shanks literally spelled what GB was doing. Going when luffy has not healed yet. That was GB's intentions.