Powers & Abilities Shanks: How Swordsmen and Gun users use advanced COA.

[comrade]

Because its not. Or else they would have done it. Pretty simple. Roger had his sword on panel from god valley to his death so did he not bond with it in those 20 odd years ?

You are just assuming that the power level of your CoA is all that matters in turning your blade black permanently. When it was never portrayed as the sole reason.

Mihawk said "every blade can become a black blade". So is that Mihawk assuming that everyone can get CoA stronger than Roger and Whitebeard? :yasu:

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Except by that point even after facing acoa users kaido was known as invincible before oden clapped him with just hardening.
Ray had acoa yet still fought with a sword that says everything.

Kaido has been defeated seven times. I couldn't care less about what "people say".

Rayleigh's sword says nothing, it only says that you're assuming he won't spam blasts of advanced armament without getting to cut anything, for example. Again, that Oden cut Kaido sounds way less impressive the moment you remember that advanced armament frees you from the trouble of his skin to begin with because you directly reach the inners. It is like Lucci making a big deal of cutting someone with hard skin using rankyaku even though he may just resort to rakuogan and don't waste time with it. And again, the power of destroying someone from the inside was something that not even Hyogoro, the guy talking about breath of things as haki, could teach Luffy. Right now, as far as we know, such level of armament isn't required to master swordsmanship (only canon definition of this so far: cutting anything but nothing), so Oda could very well portray black swords as something that doesn't need it. As I said, according to what we know for now, black sword sounds more like something based on mastering the breath of things and not achieving the highest level of armament.

 

[HA001]

You are just assuming that the power level of your CoA is all that matters in turning your blade black permanently. When it was never portrayed as the sole reason.

Mihawk said "every blade can become a black blade". So is that Mihawk assuming that everyone gets CoA stronger than Roger and Whitebeard? :yasu:

The fact that every blade can be a black blade and they couldnt do it shows they werent good enough to do so.
Zoro will leave wano with 2 brand new swords if he gets the nidai as expected eos isnt that far away so how can this bonding bullshit work ?

 

[Shiroyru]

So in order to turn your sword black you have to make love to it regularly

:laughmoji:

 

[HA001]

Kaido has been defeated seven times. I couldn't care less about what "people say".

Rayleigh's sword says nothing, it only says that you're assuming he won't spam blasts of advanced armament without getting to cut anything, for example. Again, that Oden cut Kaido sounds way less impressive the moment you remember that advanced armament frees you from the trouble of his skin to begin with because you directly reach the inners. It is like Lucci making a big deal of cutting someone with hard skin using rankyaku even though he may just resort to rakuogan and don't waste time with it. And again, the power of destroying someone from the inside was something that not even Hyogoro, the guy talking about breath of things as haki, could teach Luffy. Right now, as far as we know, such level of armament isn't required to master swordsmanship (only canon definition of this so far: cutting anything but nothing), so Oda could very well portray black swords as something that doesn't need it.

Kaido aint having fits and flash backs to roger or wb attacking him is he

 

[Gran D. Master]

:laughmoji:

I'm pretty sure there is a selfie thread for that

 

[Shiroyru]

The fact that every blade can be a black blade and they couldnt do it shows they werent good enough to do so.
Zoro will leave wano with 2 brand new swords if he gets the nidai as expected eos isnt that far away so how can this bonding bullshit work ?

If black blades are just the result of having the best CoA, then why didn’t Ryuma just mass produce black blades for Wano to use?

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I'm pretty sure there is a selfie thread for that

Is there a thread for people who lack common sense? I think that you’d have a great time there

 

[HA001]

If black blades are just the result of having the best CoA, then why didn’t Ryuma just mass produce black blades for Wano to use?

Do we know when he made it black ?
He died in his 40s for one and who said people could handle them.

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Kaido aint having fits and flash backs to roger or wb attacking him is he

Do you seriously expect him to have flashbacks of them when Oden's scabbards are the ones attacking him by the time Oden warned someone would come for his head? That's like One Piece's version of thinking of another woman while you have sex with your girlfriend.

 

[Shiroyru]

Do we know when he made it black ?
He died in his 40s for one and who said people could handle them.

So Ryuma died right after he blackened Shusui?

 

[comrade]

Zoro will leave wano with 2 brand new swords if he gets the nidai as expected eos isnt that far away so how can this bonding bullshit work ?

Because you assume bonding is dependent on the time spent. Why was Tengu sure Enma will turn black in Zoro's hands? Did he sense that his CoA will be more powerful even than Roger's and Whitebeard's, who released a CoA attack so strong even Oden was perplex? Same Oden who could cut Kaido.

He died in his 40s for one and who said people could handle them.

Preskip Zoro immediately handled it. So I guess in all of Wano's history, swordsmen were weaker than Preskip Zoro.

 

[HA001]

If black blades are just the result of having the best CoA, then why didn’t Ryuma just mass produce black blades for Wano to use?

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Is there a thread for people who lack common sense? I think that you’d have a great time there

Stop avoiding the questions like a little bitch.

How will zoro bond with enma more than oden who had the sword for 20 plus years.

And if he does it in wano will he be > oden

 

[Red Admiral]

Shanks will have better CoA than Mihawk

maybe ... but if Mihawk fans be reasonable ... I can give them CoA as long as they respect CoC

we are less than an arc away from godking hype ... we can be nice to them

 

[comrade]

Those saying black blade = solely powerlevel of your CoA have to explain why neither Ryuma nor Mihawk mass produce black blades. Simple as that. Because if the power level of your CoA is the sole reason, they must be able to do it.

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

How will zoro bond with enma more than oden who had the sword for 20 plus years.

By learning how to cut more stuff than Oden ever did, and therefore by connecting his will to his sword in a richest way.

 

[Shiroyru]

Stop avoiding the questions like a little bitch.

How will zoro bond with enma more than oden who had the sword for 20 plus years.

And if he does it in wano will he be > oden

Because Zoro will be stronger than Oden and have stronger CoA

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maybe ... but if Mihawk fans be reasonable ... I can give them CoA as long as they respect CoC

we are less than an arc away from godking hype ... we can be nice to them

It’s gonna be equal to Shanks CoA at best

 

[HA001]

By learning how to cut more stuff than Oden ever did, and therefore by connecting his will to his sword in a richest way.

So when wb and if roger and rox have scars on their body and if shanks was the cause of kidds arm did they do all that from the inside out ?

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Those saying black blade = solely powerlevel of your CoA have to explain why neither Ryuma nor Mihawk mass produce black blades. Simple as that. Because if the power level of your CoA is the sole reason, they must be able to do it.

Why would mihawk who uses a twohanded sword mass produce black blades ?
The fact that zoro will have 3 swords 2 of which he will have had for no time by eos will all be black proves you wrong.

 

[comrade]

The fact that zoro will have 3 swords 2 of which he will have had for no time by eos will all be black proves you wrong.

"The fact". Pls don't speak of what exactly happens in EOS as fact.

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Why didn't Ryuma mass produce black blades for his nation? @HA001

 

[HA001]

"The fact". Pls don't speak of what exactly happens in EOS as fact.

Lmfao no answer for the fact that zoro will mass produce kokutos.

Same as the other pleb sera whose gone missing since i asked him if luffy will get future future future sight lmfao

 

[comrade]

Lmfao no answer for the fact that zoro will mass produce kokutos.

Nothing is fact until seen on paper. That includes Zoro hurting or killing Kaido, which you also call a fact.

We have the fact Zoro wanted Onimaru to elaborate what's the matter with black blades.

If it was so obvious that black blade = strength of your CoA, then Oda wouldn't have created that cliffhanger.

But for HA, his whole headcanon is a fact. :yasu: