Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

He wants his cake and to eat it too. one throwaway line during Zou suggesting one presence can be concealed but won't expand on it as he he wouldn't be able to make Shiryu a training tool for Zoro's COO if characters being able to conceal their presence is a confirmed ability.
Even then, it's such a very cheap way to nerf abilities like that. Why can't he make it like Shiryu's body is in another dimension while turning "invisible" and that's how CoO users cannot feel his presence at all? It worked with Madara's Limbo.
 
Luffy and Zoro could sense Loki haki far away even thought he was chained up with seastones who even stop someone from using haki.

There are four options:

1. Only characters with a insane haki can be sensed. A reason why Luffy or Zoro didn't feel Lucci or Kaku since they are not really threats.

However guys like Saturn, Kizaru or Loki pose insane haki, that is a reason why Luffy could sense them. Like why you even need sense CoO for fodder.

2. Pranks and Gunko pose not a great haki threat, a reason why Luffy feelt Loki but not these two, they don't pose the insane haki to been see as threat.

3. Holyknights are like Assassines, can hide their haki, so no one can sense them even with CoO.

4. Oda just doesn't care....

Choose one.
4. It's always been 4, it has happened so many times already.
 
He wants his cake and to eat it too. one throwaway line during Zou suggesting one presence can be concealed but won't expand on it as he he wouldn't be able to make Shiryu a training tool for Zoro's COO if characters being able to conceal their presence is a confirmed ability.
High enough CoO can sense even concealed presences like those who use invisibility like Queen and Shiryu. That’s how Sanji and Garp did it.
 
sanji didn't do shit lol

Fukcking queen made the floor squeek cause he so fucking fat. that's how sanjo found him lol
Lmao the creaking cope is hilarious cause it makes zero sense. Osome could hear a mouse squeak on one side of the room from the other but couldn’t hear these super loud creaks. Sanji was able to specifically target Queens neck because he heard creaks? Doesn’t make any sense lmao
 
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