Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1136 Spoilers Discussion

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Beyond him being an early opponent of Luffy, he's connected to 2 admirals, Kuzan and Fujitora. Smoker and his personal skepticism literally lead to the end of the warlord system.
 
Less than before timeskip, and look at what happened to him in Punk Hazard, and what happened to more important characters postskip.
What "happened" to him lol? He became an actual ally of Luffy? And no, smoker also didn't do anything for a good amount of pre time skip either. PH was the first time he was important in the story since like Alabasta. I mean come on, we already saw Luccis comeback
 
It's legit hard to fathom how insane Katakuri was. This is what Snakeman did to a man people perceive on the level of Whitebeard and Roger.
Kaido didn't know where left and right is. He immediately realised that what he needs is an upgrade otherwise he can't deal with this shit.
FS literally allowed Kaido from being unable to react in his strongest mode to dancing and mocking Snakeman in his slowest. If this doesn't tell you how insane FS is, you need medical help.

Katakuri literally a first commander arguably dealt with Snakeman even better. Unlike Kaido, Katakuri doesn't have super tough Skin, every punch hurts and he needs to react ASAP.

He caught on to how it works and danced around it like Kaido and getting counters in immediately.

There's a reason FS is an ability only the mightiest have.


Katakuri was unbeaten with a canon record, a milestone for the Protagonist to surpass, but I'm being gaslighted into believing Zolo wins even though he has not shown a single ability that allows him to counter Kuri Only because Zolo fans say so.
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Yamatos acoc bagua matched hybrid kaidos acoc bagua for speed when they both landed

Luffys fs couldn't react to a base bagua barely

Anything he tries to do from range she can freeze

She can blitz him and cover herself in ice armour (Which let her tank hybrid kaido bagua WHICH SHITS ON A MILLION KATA ATTACKS) and just charge straight at him.


She is BODYING him
I don’t think she even needs to cover herself in ice shield Latakuri ap is so trash he would even struggle to take down the flying six
 
Kaido with his physicals needed future sight to counter Snakeman, aka Katakuri level of combat speed
Yet somehow people assume Zoro can counter that? Lmao
Why the assumption that current Snakeman and WCI Snakeman have comparable combat speed?

When did Luffy's physical stats stop growing? Post timeskip?

Does Dresrossa G2 Luffy and post 1026 G2 Luffy have same physical stats then?
Pre GK Doflamingo treated G2 Luffy's combat speed as a joke, dodged every single attack from G2 Luffy's gataling (G2's fastest attack).

While drunken Kaido was getting tagged several times by post 1026 G2 Luffy (in before you bring up future sight, that doesn't make you attack faster, it just improves precision).
Is fresh Doflamingo just a God in combat speed, or did Luffy's combat speed just significantly improve?

Obvious answer is that Strawhats keep growing from island to island as stated earlier in the series, every tough fight and training improves their power level - in both haki and physical stats.
This is why hakiless trash like SH mid trio ended up beating Tobiroppo, while Tobiroppo are comparable to Vergo who would destroy out of timeskip mid trio.
 
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