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Yamato talked with Luffy to stay and train Momo and defend Wano against the eorld governement for some time

Loki is against the knights and may have been framed and want to do good for Elbaf, and I don't remember sorry, what expansionist goals does he have?

Carrot is one of the strongest minks so if the world governement knew qhere Zunesha is she would be one of the main defenders, which Imu would probably want to attack Zunesha if they knew where she was

And Joyboy was the first pirate, doesn't that imply that the ancient kingdom was an anarchist land?

Since that may mean there were no pirates in it
Yamato "had" to stay in Wano for plot reasons. She wanted to sail the seas during the entire arc, until she was dropped from the nakama roaster at the end. She has no political inclination, other that wanting to see the Dawn Oden spoke about.

If anyone got the mantle of protector of Wano from the outside world, that is Momo, and even in his case, it's less a "keep Wano from being part of the WG" and more of a "don't open the borders until Joy Boy needs it" situation.

Carrot plays second fiddle to Yamato's storyline, where a want for adventure was suddenly curbed by Oda, and the character was relegated into a leadership position unbefitting her up until that moment. Were the WG to attack Zou, of course Carrot would step in to try and defend it. But: the WG has shown no interest toward the elephant nation, nor have they expressed a desire to expand their territories until now with Elbaf; and, considering how Zou fared against Jack's men, I doubt an Admiral invasion would fail.

Loki was portrayed as the foil of his pacifist and WG-aligned father. Loki took to the seas to prove his and Elbaf's might, even if that results in the world's destruction. Loki isn't a protector of Elbaf's culture for stasis reasons: he wants the Country of War to show that they are the best at what they do.

The AK was, as many have speculated through the decades of OP splerging, an all-inclusive continent-spanning political entity. That is an empire by definition. Joy Boy's status as a pirate in no way means that the AK was anarchic, if anything the opposite. For JB to term himself as an outlaw, there first needs to be a law he needs to substract himself to.
And besides, we don't even know what JB's definition of piracy was. Like Luffy, he could have simply pursued an extreme type of freedom, regardless of borders and customs, "bothering" people in power wherever he went.
 
Holy knights as a group should be below Admirals as a group. Only the strongest/leader (Garling/Shamrock) would be on lvl of Admirals and other top tiers.

Dragon main focus is on taking down the HK, that doesn't really hype up HK being more threatening and be above Admirals, becoz at the given point of time there's no way Dragon would think him and his Rev commander could have a shot of beating the Marines org with fleet Admiral + 3 Admirals.
Dragon at least have a plan on taking down the HK.
 
Holy knights as a group should be below Admirals as a group. Only the strongest/leader (Garling/Shamrock) would be on lvl of Admirals and other top tiers.

Dragon main focus is on taking down the HK, that doesn't really hype up HK being more threatening and be above Admirals, becoz at the given point of time there's no way Dragon would think him and his Rev commander could have a shot of beating the Marines org with fleet Admiral + 3 Admirals.
Dragon at least have a plan on taking down the HK.
Sabo went off to face Fujitora on his own. They crashed Reverie with 2 Admirals and held them back. Revs have shown no fear no issues dealing with Admirals thus far

Dragon used to be a Marine, he likely knows all about the Navy structure and Admirals’ strengths, plus that is not the org he is aiming to topple over

The story has always set up the primary conflicts as World Govt and CDs vs Revolutionaries, Marines vs Pirates. It is simply the narrative and story beat not a matter of “uHh my powerscaling does not allow me to beat 3 Admirals + Fleet Admiral”
 

Toppi Roppo's introduction was so hyped and looks at how it turns out
Hopefully the God Knights lives up to their names.
Hmmm.

I wonder about that. God Valley was always "ROGER! GARP! ROCKS CREW! HYPE!" but except for Garling, it doesnt seem the God Knights really are given credit in power from Oda when it comes to a battle of such scale. Even when we got the flashback.

A lot of big names, true, but its never been if the God Knights fared well against such titans themselves.

At the very least I feel I can be sure Garling wont end up top 5.
 
Lowkey the holy knights likely are just more or less comparable to an emperor crew or revolutionary army
Single top tier maybe a couple high tiers and maybe a handful of mid tiers with the rest being more or less fodder

The marines still being the single strongest main force of the world government with them having multiple top tiers within their ranks

Imu and the gorosei exist but their power is a secret to the world so they don’t really count
 
Sabo went off to face Fujitora on his own. They crashed Reverie with 2 Admirals and held them back. Revs have shown no fear no issues dealing with Admirals thus far

Dragon used to be a Marine, he likely knows all about the Navy structure and Admirals’ strengths, plus that is not the org he is aiming to topple over

The story has always set up the primary conflicts as World Govt and CDs vs Revolutionaries, Marines vs Pirates. It is simply the narrative and story beat not a matter of “uHh my powerscaling does not allow me to beat 3 Admirals + Fleet Admiral”
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At Marijoa they hadn't any intentions of going against the Admirals, still happened and even while Admirals were heavily restricted (stated three times) Revos still lost and Fujitora had to fight for them.

But anyway, I agree: simply put the marine Is not his enemy and it's not what Dragon will have to face now. Now he know the HK Will be deployed for the food thing and not the Admirals, who have other things to do.

Dragon aim not even at the WG, but at the CDs inside It. So, he cares about that and not the rest.
 
Yamato "had" to stay in Wano for plot reasons. She wanted to sail the seas during the entire arc, until she was dropped from the nakama roaster at the end. She has no political inclination, other that wanting to see the Dawn Oden spoke about.

If anyone got the mantle of protector of Wano from the outside world, that is Momo, and even in his case, it's less a "keep Wano from being part of the WG" and more of a "don't open the borders until Joy Boy needs it" situation.

Carrot plays second fiddle to Yamato's storyline, where a want for adventure was suddenly curbed by Oda, and the character was relegated into a leadership position unbefitting her up until that moment. Were the WG to attack Zou, of course Carrot would step in to try and defend it. But: the WG has shown no interest toward the elephant nation, nor have they expressed a desire to expand their territories until now with Elbaf; and, considering how Zou fared against Jack's men, I doubt an Admiral invasion would fail.

Loki was portrayed as the foil of his pacifist and WG-aligned father. Loki took to the seas to prove his and Elbaf's might, even if that results in the world's destruction. Loki isn't a protector of Elbaf's culture for stasis reasons: he wants the Country of War to show that they are the best at what they do.

The AK was, as many have speculated through the decades of OP splerging, an all-inclusive continent-spanning political entity. That is an empire by definition. Joy Boy's status as a pirate in no way means that the AK was anarchic, if anything the opposite. For JB to term himself as an outlaw, there first needs to be a law he needs to substract himself to.
And besides, we don't even know what JB's definition of piracy was. Like Luffy, he could have simply pursued an extreme type of freedom, regardless of borders and customs, "bothering" people in power wherever he went.
I will say more later but I meant to say the fact that Joyboy was the first pirate implies there was no pirate before him, so no outlaws sailing the sea, so either there were no outlaws sailing or people decided to organise how they wanted without a state, which is anarchism
 
Tobbi Roppo were always beneath Calamities, but even so Ulti still got amazing feats against Goofy

HKs are a separate force from Marines, they are directly below Gorosei who are considerably above Admirals and even Yonkos due to hax
Ulti was the sole one carrying the Tobi Roppo reputation. Not a top fighter like King but not down with PayPay or Maria either.
Perfectly positioned as the middle threat of the arc.
 
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