Speculations The dragon and the winged creature are the same entity

[Bisoromi Bear]

Now the question is if Imu is the original earth god or a vessel like Luffy is to Nika, that is open for interpretation. I think Imu was born in the secon world and inheritted the earth god's powers.

I 90% believe Imu is a 'vessel' like Luffy.

Watch bro. Imu is a tragic figure, a pure hearted child like innocence turned into an unspeakable evil out of fear. Imu is more akin to a scared and terrified child than an actual demonic overlord.

Ties in well with the possibility that the 2nd world's Joyboy was not a good guy. The roles might have been reversed and Imu who had eaten the earth god DF was on the side that stood up against oppression, or at least perceived themselves as such.
Joyboy and the ancient kingdom were the science guys who had carved out a living for the diverse moon origin? races on earth but as their science advanced they came close to destroying (with or without intent) the earth with the powers of the infinite energy source aka forbidden sun aka nuclear energy.

The more I read the text describing the third world the more I'm confident that it's way more about Teach than Imu.

I bet it's intentionally ambiguous

 

[Fujishiro]

Because she looks like one bro. She is tiny as all hell and looks like she has a woman’s frame. She may even be a literal child dude.

Imu looks like a silhouette also I read somewhere that he says boku which is something males do. I think the slender figure is a red herring.

 

[kekaro]

I 90% believe Imu is a 'vessel' like Luffy.


Ties in well with the possibility that the 2nd world's Joyboy was not a good guy. The roles might have been reversed and Imu who had eaten the earth god DF was on the side that stood up against oppression, or at least perceived themselves as such.
Joyboy and the ancient kingdom were the science guys who had carved out a living for the diverse moon origin? races on earth but as their science advanced they came close to destroying (with or without intent) the earth with the powers of the infinite energy source aka forbidden sun aka nuclear energy.


I bet it's intentionally ambiguous

Chapter cooked so hard it made you effort post

 

[Afroking]

So the final villain of this manga is just a born human who ate a devil fruit? Nah bro. The final villain of this manga is a primordial godlike entity that enslaved humanity, not a fucking girl who ate a devil fruit lol.

Nothing stops him from hiding among humans because he was weakened from the two wars and needs the eternal flame of Vegapunk to regain his true power. Reminder that Imu already is on a 900 lifespan,no reason to assume he isn't older but not even his servants know that. ..

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Nothing stops him from hiding among humans because he was weakened

The problem is that nobody knows he exists. Hiding among humans would make sense if he was masquerading as a public figure but Imu’s existence is a secret.

Cobra immediately identifying Imu as a Nerona would actually compromise this God’s attempts to hide itself as Cobra would immediately identify Imu by name and by association with the Nerona bloodline lmfao.

If nobody knows you exist, there is literally zero reason for a god to masquerade as a human.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

nice find

 

[Fujishiro]

nice find

Thank you my friend lol.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The entity had the sun,imu will have it to
Bb " who s gonna with the sun or the darkness"
Bb killing imu

And whatever Imu's fruit is will begins BBs third? I can see both scenarios play out: either everyone allies against Imu(like how everyone out aside their differences to ally against Enel)
. Or Blackbeard takes Imu's place, becoming the final villain.

That sun is likely the mother flame but yeah I can see that, It says that the troubled shadow will listen to the fragmented moon it can also be that Imu will ally with Blackbeard idk lol.

Blackbeard being the fragmented moon since he's a D but an 'evil' one? What makes Blackbeard fragmented?Actually we don't know much about Blackbeard, especially what made his body unusual and what that even entails.
Then the empty throne and certain characters wanting to sit on it has been teased throughout the manga. Blackbeard attempting to do just this is certainly possible.

Might be a red herring but I doubt it. If what you’re saying is true then the powers itself don’t grant immortality as the first creature perished

Imu must have found a way to do so, and then transferred that immortality to his underlings via his power

There are different ways immortality can.be interpreted: one is the inability to be killed, the other is eternal youth. If we assume that Imu's powers are so overwhelming compared to everyone else's that he can't be killed by them, he might appear as an unkillable creature when in reality he merely has eternal youth aka he lives forever unless somebody with powers stronger than his kills him.

 

[Garp the Fist]

I think a lot of the Third World poem is about the Poneglyphs.

They are

a) hidden, unbidden, in the shadows. The Pongelyphs have been hidden away from the world because of what they say. Locked up in tombs, deep underground, in secret tree chambers, vaults. They are in the shadows of the world. Imu is furious at Lili, one of his subordinates, for her involvement- unbidden, done against his orders. Lili herself is a shadowy figure from the past, even the kings of Alabasta are not sure what really happened to her

b) remember the day of the promise. We know at least one, the Fishman Island one, talks about the promise between Joy Boy and Poseidon coming true one day. They talk about a promised day to come- Roger knowing he is too early

c) the voice of the fragmented moon. They were carved by the Kozuki, whose name means Moonlight- the voice of the Kozuki. They are fragmented, one story broken up into twenty odd different pieces. The Kozuki telling the story, splitting it up and hiding it away.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Imu looks like a silhouette also I read somewhere that he says boku which is something males do. I think the slender figure is a red herring.

He is literally small like a child and scrawny. We’ve seen Imu sit the Empty Throne and yeah they literally have a child’s stature. Like I said, the whole Demonic Overlord thing is a Red Herring, Imu is very likely a terrified child and not a damn primordial god lol. This is a very common trope in fiction where the weak, scared child attains godlike power and immortality and becomes the Overlord lol. But Imu being a child is highly highly likely imo.

 

[Blax Blah]

The winged fire breathing demon could be a demonic dragon, Satan,

 

[Fujishiro]

He is literally small like a child and scrawny. We’ve seen Imu sit the Empty Throne and yeah they literally have a child’s stature. Like I said, the whole Demonic Overlord thing is a Red Herring, Imu is very likely a terrified child and not a damn primordial god lol. This is a very common trope in fiction where the weak, scared child attains godlike power and immortality and becomes the Overlord lol. But Imu being a child is highly highly likely imo.

He looks about the size or Shanks or Luffy. I wont discount this theory though.

 

[Julius]

I think Blackbeard will either ally with Luffy

Naruto and Sasuke

 

[Paperchampion23]

Like I said in the spoiler thread, the problem with all this is that whatever that thing is seems like it far, far predates the Void Century, and we know Imu is a member of the Nerona line and very likely one of the twenty kings.

Therefore it makes much more sense for Imu to be one of the men who became gods mentioned in the second war. Because it makes no sense for the primordial god of humanity to masquerade as a member of a human bloodline for no reason at all lol.

Yall putting way too much value on Imu and missing the forest for the trees. Imu is trying to flood something far worse than him/herself.

But remember that like Nika whatever Imu's powers could hail from an older time. If Luffy is the Sun God, then Imu could be one of these creatures after inheriting said power like Joyboy.

The only thing that confuses me is there is clearly a figure that looks like Imu on the right side, so did he actually pre-date the Void Century?

 

[mmd]

There is no way Teach and Luffy can unite
Ace's death
Killing his own father
Possibly killing Shanks
Capturing Luffy's grandfather
Harming Law & Hancock
And a thousand other evil activities
Even Oda put Teach on Rocks Island
Teach is Luffy's biggest enemy to become the Pirate King and nothing more

 

[MonsterKaido]

I am not sure whether the left most panel shows the second world or 3rd world. It is possible that both winged monsters are same entity or different gods.

 

[Fujishiro]

But remember that like Nika whatever Imu's powers could hail from an older time. If Luffy is the Sun God, then Imu could be one of these creatures after inheriting said power like Joyboy.

The only thing that confuses me is there is clearly a figure that looks like Imu on the right side, so did he actually pre-date the Void Century?

I think its an ancestor, the kingly figure there is the earth god imo and the dragon above is its power.

I am not sure whether the left most panel shows the second world or 3rd world. It is possible that both winged monsters are same entity or different gods.

We see Emeth on the second mural its JBs world.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

also I read somewhere that he says boku which is something males do.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=can+females+use+boku+pronoun+japanese&ia=web

 

[Fujishiro]

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=can+females+use+boku+pronoun+japanese&ia=web

I think I meant Ore then I confuse the two lol.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

He looks about the size or Shanks or Luffy.

Which in the OP world is basically child sized anyway lmfao.

But remember that like Nika whatever Imu's powers could hail from an older time. If Luffy is the Sun God, then Imu could be one of these creatures after inheriting said power like Joyboy.

My problem with this is that the final villain from OP shouldn’t just be some fledgling who inherited the will of the original evil or whatever, it should be the original evil itself.

Like imagine if in Naruto the final battle wasn’t against Kaguya but against a pretender using the Kaguya Justu. Madara never returned, instead the 4th Shinobi War was against a Madara fanboy utilizing the same jutsus Madara used. It loses something right?

If Imu isn’t the primordial evil but is just an inheritor, it would just suck imo.

Plus this doesn’t answer the question of why Imu is trying to flood the world. It would seem from this chapter like Imu is flooding the world to keep the original flame demon or whatever flooded under the ocean. So in that instance, the original flame demon would have to be worse than Imu if Imu is flooding the whole world to keep the thing buried.