ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1138: HARLEY

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HellBlazer04

HellBlazer04

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#161
#161
Roo said:
what if that’s what Rayleigh meant by “you might arrive at a different conclusion than us”. It’s not as simple as Imu evil Joyboy good?
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That's a good thought

The 2nd war mural says the Sun God spread the fires of war. Joyboy realised later on that the war would only lead to all civilization ending if the Primordial Gods got released and that's why maybe he gave himself up.
Also could be why Joyboy apologized to Mermaid Princess.
 
Unlimited Rulebook

Unlimited Rulebook

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#165
#165
Fujishiro said:
As for this line it refers to JB spreading seeds of war in the second world, I bet you that JB was a morally grey figure. Vegapunk did say that he couldnt tell who was good or bad lol.

Also the giants think that Nika was a god of destruction and its fits the second world where he initiated war, they thought he was also a god of liberation which was the first world, and a god of laughter which is the third world in Luffy.

Thats the second world against Imu and the others.
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It sure seems that the characters I mentioned are focused on the third world. I dunno. The mural is cryptic. If it was too specific and detailed we would just need to jump to EOS I guess.
 
NAMELESS

NAMELESS

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#171
#171
Paperchampion23 said:
Remember the Mother Flame is Vegapunks creation, so whatever the Primordial Sun is, its far worse than VPs mother flame.
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Yes, correct. Oda is up to some real life lore here. Now i'm remembering all the conspiracy theories about an alternative sustenaible infinite source already being created by Tesla, but the American government supressing it to keep the fossyl fuel industry safe.
 
D. Plant

D. Plant

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#172
Garp the Fist said:
The forbidden sun- two possibilities for me. Prosaic is the energy source that Vegapunk dreams about discovering. Alternatively, a metaphor for humanity discovering how to use either Haki or DFs for the first time. Likely the prosaic answer
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You gave me an idea. Each of these people on the right walk out from the city, go down an elevator to the earth's core, takes a portion of the earth's power (forbidden sun) and come back up from the elevator, carry it back to the city/factory. These forbidden sun is the source of creating devil fruits.
 
Ganja userr

Ganja userr

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#175
#175
We're in January we already got chapter of the year, Oda absolutely cooked

After 20+ years Blackbeard having the Cerberus fruit because of his jolly Roger can finally be put to rest 😂

Nice to get Confirmation Shamrock is a twin and not a clone ( Oda playing the good/evil dynamic between the brothers)

Almost 600 chapters later we'll finally find out the person who met Crocus guess we'll have to wait till the next chapter to see if the Scopper Gaban theories are right

The lore drop in this chapter was otherworld godly holy hell
 
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