Powers & Abilities Shanks Has A Mythical Power In His Sword Too

Cerberus (guardian of the underworld) and Gryphon (guardian of the divine) -- a coincidence?

  • Yes

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  • No (obviously)

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Orange town: zoro vs cabaji
Zoro’s first real fight with it setting up what being a swordsman means


The fight starts off with a clash of swords, zoro challenging him to a sword duel, and even cabaji himself referring to himself as a swordsman
So just basing it off those first 2 panels it seemingly cut and dry that cabaji is just as much of a swordsman as zoro or mihawk. Something that would be true if you stop reading the fight at that point

The first things cabaji does after accepting the sword duel is spit fire in zoro’s face and kick him. Something I think we can all agree isn’t part of swordsmanship


With zoro outright saying he’s going to show him what real swordplay looks like. Obviously calling him out on all his bullshit tactics that have nothing to do with swordsmanship


At the same time despite cabaji barely doing any real swordsmanship just due to the fact he himself claims to be one is enough for zoro. Basically even tho you don’t actually practice swordsmanship if you claim to be one anyway is enough of a reason for zoro to need to beat your ass and show you what it really looks like


After all the circus tricks shit cabaji himself essentially admits and agrees what he was doing before wasting swordsmanship. Him claiming that now he’s going to show off his real swordsmanship…right before before getting one shot

Syrup villagevs cat brothers
This fight emphasizing the difference between using a sword and having a sword style

At that point zoro makes it clear that after 2 of his swords were taken that he straight up wasn’t that good at “one sword style”. The “style” being important because it insinuates skill and technique

He also does so again when he lets them know using 3 swords =/= following 3 swords style are 2 very different things right before cutting them down

Baratie: zoro vs mihawk

We meet mihawk and we get a lot more insight on what it means to be a swordsman


There’s this which highlights again there’s more to being a swordsman than just swinging around a sword



The main highlight about swordsmanship tho is the unspoken code between swordsman. Emphasizing that swordsmanship is a type of lifestyle one lives by not just something everyone with a sword is

Arlong park: zoro vs hachi

Hachi the second strongest swordsman from fish man island behind hyouzou. He claims to be a master at 6 sword style and he actually has attacks dedicated to it that aren’t just him flailing his blades




He pretty much just shows the one but hey it’s better than most lol


At the same time while having a sword style he also isn’t limited to his swordsmanship. Him having no problem whatsoever punching, kicking, fighting, or whatever in conjunction or just straight up without his swords

So to sum it all up
Things important to being a swordsman
  1. Using your actual swords
    • Punching kicking etc isn’t a part of swordsmanship lol
  2. Claiming to be one
    • Doesn’t matter how actually skilled or not you are. Just claiming to be one is enough
  3. Skill/style/technique
    • There’s a difference between using a sword and being a swordsman
  4. Swordsman code
    • True swordsman honor a short of unspoken code between them and what being a swordsman means
  5. Respecting and valuing your blades
    • Just wanted a 5th point to make it feel even
    • A true swordsman is going to respect their blade as a part of themselves not just a tool to use. Mutual respect between blade and user
Thank you @conq for enlightening me
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The photos are now broken but it’s been pretty clear since the east blue oda was making specific characteristics of a swordsman

  1. Those who strictly follow a sword style like cavendish or oden
  2. Those who have a sword style and combine it with other abilities like hatchi and kaku
    • Should be obvious but punching people in the chest isn’t swordsmanship
  3. Those who claim to be swordman just do to the fact they can use a sword like Cabaji
  4. Those who don’t claim to be swordsman just due to the fact they can use a sword like king
  5. You can use nothing but blade attacks and still not be a swordsman
On top of that any weapon can be considered a blade/sword if it can cut shit

Let's once again talk about the most poorly written concept in manga medium- One Piece's swordsmanship.

We see a scythe being counted as a sword:


We see a simple hand with nails and a knife on a leg being counted as swords:


So the question is... what doesn't count as a sword then?

Why Whitebeard's weapon shouldn't be considered as a sword? Surely it's more of a sword than a scythe, a knife and some cat nails? Especially when it's once of the 12 supreme blades

Thus effectively making Whitebeard a swordsman, and him being WSM should make him WSS as well, no?
Title ranking
Strongest blade man > strongest knife man ~ strongest sword man ~ strongest axe man

But all blades can be used as sword
  1. Kaku legs
  2. Zorojuro scythe
  3. Nekomamushi claws
If it can cut it can be used in a sword style
 
Rather than asking, where do we as the readers draw the line, it would be more appropriate to ask where Zoro draws the line. Would Zoro be comfortable calling himself the world's greatest and strongest swordsman if he beat Mihawk but lost to Nusjuro or Fujitora? Zoro literally considered a circus artist a peer due to him labelling himself as a swordsman. Meanwhile, the likes of Fujitora resemble the Samurai theme, wield a supreme grade blade and incorporate their DF into their fighting style similar to Haki (e.g. calling it gravity blade).
in marineford, Mihawk was literally in front of WB, a man who had one of the 12 supreme blades whose name was "cloud cutter" and yet he had no interest in having a duel with whitebeard.
he is interested in fighting characters who use sword skills to fight.
He lost interest in having a duel with Shanks because they followed different paths, Shanks no longer uses sword skills as his main fighting style, so he no longer comes into Mihawk's sights.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
in marineford, Mihawk was literally in front of WB, a man who had one of the 12 supreme blades whose name was "cloud cutter" and yet he had no interest in having a duel with whitebeard.
he is interested in fighting characters who use sword skills to fight.
He lost interest in having a duel with Shanks because they followed different paths, Shanks no longer uses sword skills as his main fighting style, so he no longer comes into Mihawk's sights.
Divine departure is literally listed as swordskill moron
 
in marineford, Mihawk was literally in front of WB, a man who had one of the 12 supreme blades whose name was "cloud cutter" and yet he had no interest in having a duel with whitebeard.
he is interested in fighting characters who use sword skills to fight.
He lost interest in having a duel with Shanks because they followed different paths, Shanks no longer uses sword skills as his main fighting style, so he no longer comes into Mihawk's sights.
Foolish child
The very first attack in Marineford is Mihawk slashing at Whitebeard specifically to test the gap in their strength, Mihawk himself acknowledging that there is a gap
 
I would bet money on Shanks not having a fruit or adjacent power in his sword.
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Btw, debating whether or not guys like King, Fujitora, Law, Kizaru, and Big Mom are swordsmen doesn't change the fact that Shanks and Roger are as pure as it gets

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King and Kizaru are the only non swordsmen here anyways.
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King clashing swords with zoro is sword skill yet he’s still not a swordsman
King didn't use any named sword attacks and he uses a sword breaker with a button to trick opponents. His goal is to disarm you and sock you in the face not fight properly. He only engaged in a "sword duel" to taunt Zoro.
 
Aren't kanji used in chapter 1058 literally mean sword technique?

Like named attacks?
As in sword styles like zoro uses 3 sword style, oden uses “oden 2 sword style”, cavendish “beautiful sword style”, hyogoro “one sword style of the flower”, etc etc

Like those are all dedicated sword styles that exist
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
The manga says he isn’t
He himself says he isn’t
Zoro the guy that wants to be wss says he isn’t

The vivre cards also say vista and mihawk are equal
Manga doesn't say he isn't
He doesn't say he isn't
Zoro never said he wasn't
King said he loves sword duels

No it doesn't
It said they had an equal clash which they did
 
Manga doesn't say he isn't
He doesn't say he isn't
Zoro never said he wasn't
King said he loves sword duels

No it doesn't
It said they had an equal clash which they did
Man deadass got punched in the face and went “you never called your a swordsman”
:shocked:


True mihawk equally clashed with the 3yc of the wbp and decided postponing the fight was the best option for the both of them
Very impressive shit
 
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