Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1139 Spoilers Discussion

[Julius]

@comrade @MonsterKaido @HA001

You expect him to simply go on vacation to the Beast Pirates territory? Oden had to save his country and people

 

[ConquistadoR]

I’m sure you know what that means

Yeah.

 

[SakazOuki]

Kaido top 5 is the top 5 people who made him cry the most

 

[Aknolagon]

For years now, after it was revealed that Roger was a swordman, people ask this question :

Was Roger the WSS of his time ?

The question was legitimate because for what we knew Roger was the strongest guy with a blade at that time so it makes sense that he was the WSS. And the fact that the WSS was never mentioned in Oden’s flashback raise, once more, the legitimacy of the title.

But with this chapter we finally have an answer there was no WSS in Roger’s time because Roger = Rayleigh = Gaban.
Roger could not be the WSS because he was not stronger than Rayleigh.

They cannot be a WSS if the two strongest swordsmen of the time are equal.

This chapter also close the debate between Shanks and Mihawk.

@HA001 @nik87 @Aknolagon

Even tho i'm pretty sure the japanese raw implied Gaban has a legendary hype like Roger and Rayleigh in the eyes of the Giants.
But well said Rivaille-san, what you said is true. But no one will listen to you

 

[MonsterKaido]

Well no, Kizaru already knew of G5.

But it doesn't matter either way, that is precisely the point here. That's how lowly Kizaru thinks of Kaidou then.

It makes Kizaru appear as a clown for me though. He thinks snakeman without adv coc is very impressive where we know it is shit to Kaido.

 

[MegaSpider]

A random weakling(Nami) can draw the entire World map?
A random weakling(Robin) learns about world History which is forbidden?
A random weakling(Choppers) learns hiw to cure all diseases?

a random weakling can become pirate king and find one piece.
Plus whatever Luffys "real" dream is (a dance party?)

 

[mmd]

Roger pirates>rocks pirates

Yeah ray is woman
Because wb strongest man in thw world

 

[soupongo]

New copium on the way

This is why I can never take your akainu or whatever arguments seriously

You'll deny Oda words in the sbs and manga but think random CG 5b bounty means Akainu is pkk level

Please get serious

don't you think Robin never knew about the Gorosei?

 

[ZenZu]

It makes Kizaru appear as a clown for me though. He thinks snakeman without adv coc is very impressive where we know it is shit to Kaido.

Be that as it may, that is what Kizaru thinks of Kaidou based on what you are saying.

 

[Zemlya]

What if Shanks sword has the Griffin DF, and the Griffin carried the ship? That would explain why he showed up so fast in Marineford

 

[Juanpiz]

a younger kaido getting cut by lolden

vs

prime kaido running back to wano after shank flexed a bit


They are not the same

What Oda dreams about:

 

[L57]

Yeah ray is woman
Because wb strongest man in thw world

Rocks pirates from god valley lose to roger pirates
But each as an individual are => in their prime aside wb
Who s above all of them

 

[Rootbeer]

I think Gaban is using an excuse and actually just want to have fun and fight Luffy.. lol

 

[kekaro]

Now the important question
He's fruitless, so is Sanji getting COC or he's going to reach top tier level through other means? (science, special bloodline power)

Oda highlighted the power of love thing hardcore in Egghead, Sanji said it twice and vegapunk twice
I think whatever that is. Could be anything from some type of special haki to some power that oda says sanji just can do, like paulie ropes

 

[SakazOuki]

It makes Kizaru appear as a clown for me though. He thinks snakeman without adv coc is very impressive where we know it is shit to Kaido.

Luffy beat Kaido
And lost to Kizaru
I'd say Kizaru's judgement was just about accurate, impressive for a rookie

 

[MonsterKaido]

Be that as it may, that is what Kizaru thinks of Kaidou based on what you are saying.

Yeah. Kizaru doesn't really know what he is talkin about.

 

[Aknolagon]

I think Gaban is using an excuse and actually just want to have fun and fight Luffy.. lol

Before he gets destroyed by Ennemies

 

[JoNdule]

"GB is talking about status quo" as if GB cared about that when he trashtalk Beast pirates or say Retainers aren't no match to him

Kizaru a retard who called G4 (no advanced haki) a real challenge
The guy couldn't KO nor dominate that G4

we saw how he got folded by G5 3x
He got beaten even though he had Saturn

 

[MarineHQ]

At this rate it would definitely be in Kaido fans best interest if Oda never shows his encounter with Shanks that made him put Shanks in his Top 5, there was no other logical moment where they could've met and clashed.

 

[Divinito442]

For anybody still denying the yonko(not their crew) are still at the top of the food chain and each of them have the right to be pk

but their crew isn’t strong enough…roger had 2 other top tiers, 3 if you count oden and that’s what luffys crew have to surpass or he will just end up another great pirate

 

[AL sama]

A random weakling(Nami) can draw the entire World map?
A random weakling(Robin) learns about world History which is forbidden?
A random weakling(Choppers) learns hiw to cure all diseases?

is that your definition of random weakling??