Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1139 Spoilers Discussion
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The problem with Kaido lose is this matter:
He lost to Luffy who gained Adv CoA one week before, he got adv CoC basically during that battle, he got awakening during that battle...
Law and Kid gone to Onigashima knowing having awakening as trumpcard and probably used it before.
Luffy did the opposite, he learned adv CoC for first time, yet he was able to toe vs toe against Kaido.
Kaido was clearly stronger, but Luffy got stronger and stronger during the battle.
Let be honest if we scale it right:
Chapter 1000-1009, Luffy was a low diff battle for Kaido
Chapter 1010-1016, Luffy finally could match Kaido with adv CoC, was a mid diff battle.
Chapter 1026-1043, Luffy with adv CoC and G4 finally give Kaido a great battle, remind him of his battle against Oden, Luffy pushed Kaido to high diff..
Chapter 1044-1050, Luffy with awakening barely won in a extrem high diff battle.
Every new powerup, every new try, this fight made Luffy stronger and stronger, the goal was to surpass Kaido.
And he did it, with every new stage, he finally surpassed him.
End of Luffy Wano was clearly on Kaido level.
Was he stronger? Doubt it, but he would give him a extrem high diff battle.
Now two arcs later, Luffy can probably use adv CoC far better, can use awakening better. At top can spam G4 in base form.
You had two characters hyping Luffy for beating Kaido(Kizaru and Gaban), I think it is the time for the community to accept that current Luffy IS stronger.
He lost to Luffy who gained Adv CoA one week before, he got adv CoC basically during that battle, he got awakening during that battle...
Law and Kid gone to Onigashima knowing having awakening as trumpcard and probably used it before.
Luffy did the opposite, he learned adv CoC for first time, yet he was able to toe vs toe against Kaido.
Kaido was clearly stronger, but Luffy got stronger and stronger during the battle.
Let be honest if we scale it right:
Chapter 1000-1009, Luffy was a low diff battle for Kaido
Chapter 1010-1016, Luffy finally could match Kaido with adv CoC, was a mid diff battle.
Chapter 1026-1043, Luffy with adv CoC and G4 finally give Kaido a great battle, remind him of his battle against Oden, Luffy pushed Kaido to high diff..
Chapter 1044-1050, Luffy with awakening barely won in a extrem high diff battle.
Every new powerup, every new try, this fight made Luffy stronger and stronger, the goal was to surpass Kaido.
And he did it, with every new stage, he finally surpassed him.
End of Luffy Wano was clearly on Kaido level.
Was he stronger? Doubt it, but he would give him a extrem high diff battle.
Now two arcs later, Luffy can probably use adv CoC far better, can use awakening better. At top can spam G4 in base form.
You had two characters hyping Luffy for beating Kaido(Kizaru and Gaban), I think it is the time for the community to accept that current Luffy IS stronger.
The first world was highly advanced and had what looked like nuclear power plants, think of the mother flame but way more potent. Its far more likely that the world back then was using science and technology and magic.
Think of it like LOTR where magic and gods were rampant in the first era and then slowly weeded out.
Think of it like LOTR where magic and gods were rampant in the first era and then slowly weeded out.
Yep, I think VP being unable to replicate logias AND being unable to replicate the ancient energy sources (mother flames are not complete) is not a coincidence @Kurozumi Wiwi @Fujishiro
Logia fruits come from the first world
Logia fruits come from the first world
This already sounds so convoluted, as of now I'm not sure which side were the bad guys, who was the scientifically advanced civilisation ,who came from the earth and who from the moon, whether the moon guys were from earth before they went to the moon and then back etcetcetc
Goda is in his element again
Yes I know lol, it's a fun theory nonetheless
Goda is in his element again
Yes I know lol, it's a fun theory nonetheless
I take it this is about Roger=Rayleigh=Gaban statement. I don't believe a word of that. Roger>Rayleigh/Gaban, period. Everyone has insane potential. I always maintained that Sanji will get CoC and that he will be a top-tier regardless of Gaban's status. Though he is, and he will continue to be behind Zoro, and obviously Luffy.
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