Questions & Mysteries When Did RPs (Poneglyphs) Become Significant?
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We know that Roger Pirates were the first to reach Roadstar 39 years ago. There is nothing that says no one else made it there in the next year before the God Valley incident. So, there is a possibility that Rocks' entire crew made it to Roadstar after Roger Pirates and learned the truth that way. This would give Big Mom, Kaido, and Whitebeard the information (seeing as all 3 of them know about the Road Poneglyphs's). Shanks would know the importance of the Road Poneglyphs from being on Roger's crew and so should Buggy for that matter. Roger starts the Great Pirate era at his execution 22 years ago and who knows how many people have made it to the Roadstar since then. There is also the fact that the World Government had outlawed researching the Poneglyphs which would spark some people's interest in the taboo like we saw with the Scolars of Ohara.
Big Mom was in possession of many Poneglyphs so it is also entirely possible that she had a Road Poneglyph and did not know or understand the importance of what she had at the time Roger stole a rubbing. Only figuring out its importance later in the story closer to the current timeline.
Big Mom was in possession of many Poneglyphs so it is also entirely possible that she had a Road Poneglyph and did not know or understand the importance of what she had at the time Roger stole a rubbing. Only figuring out its importance later in the story closer to the current timeline.
it seems that stories existed about one piece and laughtale for many years
I think the government forbidding going to the island is referring to Lodestar for the general public, the government themselves wouldnt tell of another island, the actual island, they are just warning about the precursor.
Of course the stories part is not impossible since the prophecies and things are still a part, the Kozuki are passing down the knowledge, no way other kingdoms and bloodlines didnt have something similar.
Roger is the first person to reach Lodestar guys
Thats how RPs were discovered. After this point, it seems Big Mom/Kaido etc followed suit and obtained the other RPs the following 13 years. We dont really know how BM got hers. Kaido got lucky with Wano (or knew it was there) and Fishman Island/Zou are key races.
Its clear that the RPs were largely hidden with key races (Wano, FI, Zou) so in reality its just a question of how BM obtained hers and how the FI one was taken (maybe Scopper)
I dont think Rocks knew, but after Roger, BM/Kaido/WB, etc all came to learn of it. Then Blackbeard/Shanks among others learned their own way. No idea how Kid found out but he did.
Thats how RPs were discovered. After this point, it seems Big Mom/Kaido etc followed suit and obtained the other RPs the following 13 years. We dont really know how BM got hers. Kaido got lucky with Wano (or knew it was there) and Fishman Island/Zou are key races.
Its clear that the RPs were largely hidden with key races (Wano, FI, Zou) so in reality its just a question of how BM obtained hers and how the FI one was taken (maybe Scopper)
I dont think Rocks knew, but after Roger, BM/Kaido/WB, etc all came to learn of it. Then Blackbeard/Shanks among others learned their own way. No idea how Kid found out but he did.
maybe rocks stole something from Roger that could indicate how important the RP were
Laughtale was never known about, in fact, no one even knows Laughtale exists. Roger only knew there was another Island to venture to from acquiring the Road Poneglyphs, then decided to name it "Laughtale", it was a land that never had a name to begin with since it wasn't known about.
When Big Mom was about to be defeated, she asked if the One Piece was even real... what Roger did was give people a hint at there being a treasure that was great, but they don't know if it exists in the first place. This is why Luffy said he doesn't care if the One Piece is real or not, he'll find out for himself like everyone else.
No one knows if Laughtale exists besides the Roger Pirates, every other Pirate is just betting on it.
Don't forget that people like Bellamy laughed at Luffy for going after the One Piece. Kid killed people for having ambition to find the One Piece. Finding One Piece to many people is a myth to many people.
This is why when Whitebeard said One Piece is real, it motivated many people to go after it the same way Roger's death inspired many to become Pirates and find this "supposed" treasure that apparently exists.
Don't think the WG ever banned people from going to Lodestar Island explicitly, it seems Roger was just the first to go there, and realised that the Poneglyphs were not just some ancient rock, but rocks that held very important information. He just hinted for people to go to the ends of the world, so some Pirates may have assumed that was the Island at the end of the Log Pose, and this was Roger's plan, he was baiting people into going on this journey they otherwise probably won't have ventured on.
Something us readers also don't acknowledge the world of OP don't know what we as readers know. We readers know Poneglyph exist, the world of One Piece do not, only a few people do. The world didn't explicitly tell people do not read Poneglyph, but there is a secret law against it which is why Ohara is special, they were one of the first to discover this.
The world don't know why Nico Robin is actually being hunted for Poneglyph knowledge, they never told them she was reading Poneglyph, they made up a lie to say she destroyed 3 battleships, and she was a threat to everyone. Reason being they don't want to tell people not to explicitly to not study Poneglyphs.... it will only make them curious, so knowledge about Poneglyphs is secret knowledge.
While we know Poneglyphs studying is a crime, the world don't even know they exist. They simply kill you once they know you're studying them.
In chapter 1114, even the Celestial Dragons don't know there is such a thing called the "VOID CENTURY", they were surprised about it. Only the Gorosei and those close to Imu, and archaeologists are privy to this information.
Roger told people to go to the end of the world to find the One Piece, in essence, as there was no reason as far as we know to go to the final Island at the end of the Log Pose, Roger telling the world to do so essentially told them to pretty much go to Lodestar which is the starting point for seeking out the One Piece (all the important Poneglyph).
Rocks didn't go to Lodestar, but he probably stumbled across Poneglyphs somehow. Also, given the fact he's a D., it seems certain D. members can use Voice of All Things to understand Poneglyyph to some extent. Roger and Luffy, speculation here, but it looks like this is one of the reasons why the D. are a race that the WG want wiped out.
I suspect this is why Rocks felt some connection to them.
When Big Mom was about to be defeated, she asked if the One Piece was even real... what Roger did was give people a hint at there being a treasure that was great, but they don't know if it exists in the first place. This is why Luffy said he doesn't care if the One Piece is real or not, he'll find out for himself like everyone else.
No one knows if Laughtale exists besides the Roger Pirates, every other Pirate is just betting on it.
Don't forget that people like Bellamy laughed at Luffy for going after the One Piece. Kid killed people for having ambition to find the One Piece. Finding One Piece to many people is a myth to many people.
This is why when Whitebeard said One Piece is real, it motivated many people to go after it the same way Roger's death inspired many to become Pirates and find this "supposed" treasure that apparently exists.
Don't think the WG ever banned people from going to Lodestar Island explicitly, it seems Roger was just the first to go there, and realised that the Poneglyphs were not just some ancient rock, but rocks that held very important information. He just hinted for people to go to the ends of the world, so some Pirates may have assumed that was the Island at the end of the Log Pose, and this was Roger's plan, he was baiting people into going on this journey they otherwise probably won't have ventured on.
Something us readers also don't acknowledge the world of OP don't know what we as readers know. We readers know Poneglyph exist, the world of One Piece do not, only a few people do. The world didn't explicitly tell people do not read Poneglyph, but there is a secret law against it which is why Ohara is special, they were one of the first to discover this.
The world don't know why Nico Robin is actually being hunted for Poneglyph knowledge, they never told them she was reading Poneglyph, they made up a lie to say she destroyed 3 battleships, and she was a threat to everyone. Reason being they don't want to tell people not to explicitly to not study Poneglyphs.... it will only make them curious, so knowledge about Poneglyphs is secret knowledge.
While we know Poneglyphs studying is a crime, the world don't even know they exist. They simply kill you once they know you're studying them.
In chapter 1114, even the Celestial Dragons don't know there is such a thing called the "VOID CENTURY", they were surprised about it. Only the Gorosei and those close to Imu, and archaeologists are privy to this information.
Roger told people to go to the end of the world to find the One Piece, in essence, as there was no reason as far as we know to go to the final Island at the end of the Log Pose, Roger telling the world to do so essentially told them to pretty much go to Lodestar which is the starting point for seeking out the One Piece (all the important Poneglyph).
Rocks didn't go to Lodestar, but he probably stumbled across Poneglyphs somehow. Also, given the fact he's a D., it seems certain D. members can use Voice of All Things to understand Poneglyyph to some extent. Roger and Luffy, speculation here, but it looks like this is one of the reasons why the D. are a race that the WG want wiped out.
I suspect this is why Rocks felt some connection to them.
We dont know when she got it. 13 years between Roger going to Lodestar and the conversation he has with WB about stealing a rubbing from her. She could have gotten it at any of that time.
Hmm to me it sounds like the WG stole something from Hachinosu specifically, because Garp calls that out about Rocks, not anything with Roger.
Though it might actually have been BMs RP, she could have taken after that event. The only reason I doubt this however is because that RP is basically irrelevant now so to hide that fact in this FB kinda doesnt make much sense.
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Hmm to me it sounds like the WG stole something from Hachinosu specifically, because Garp calls that out about Rocks, not anything with Roger.
Though it might actually have been BMs RP, she could have taken after that event. The only reason I doubt this however is because that RP is basically irrelevant now so to hide that fact in this FB kinda doesnt make much sense.
Well theoretically after joyboy left them 
As for the mainstory line after Roger reached Loadstar
The fact that Big Mom had one means nothing, people forgot that Poneglyphs are ancient mysterious artifacts and Big Mom is a collector
We have grown ass man tatooing kanjis on their back without their meaning, Big Mom collecting a red indestructible stone without knowing its purpouse is the one the least weird things in one piece
As for the mainstory line after Roger reached Loadstar
The fact that Big Mom had one means nothing, people forgot that Poneglyphs are ancient mysterious artifacts and Big Mom is a collector
We have grown ass man tatooing kanjis on their back without their meaning, Big Mom collecting a red indestructible stone without knowing its purpouse is the one the least weird things in one piece
To me, BM Road Poneglyph was originaly Rocks/Hachinosu Road Poneglyph, and Rocks knew at least that the RP were important to something, and she got it some kind of info about it from him. Could even be that she got the info during the God Valley incident, as at the time Roger had already reached Loadstar and he could be after it by clashing with Rocks and the WG stole something from Hachinosu.
Kaido also knew something as he was trying to find the Wano one.
Both BM and Kaido knew more about the OP/Joy Boy/Void Century/Ancient Weapons then WB, as he only learn those things from Roger, even Shiki in the chap.0 seems to knew some info on the Weapons, so probably Rocks gave them some infos.
Then, after the crew disbanded she took it to herself.
Kaido also knew something as he was trying to find the Wano one.
Both BM and Kaido knew more about the OP/Joy Boy/Void Century/Ancient Weapons then WB, as he only learn those things from Roger, even Shiki in the chap.0 seems to knew some info on the Weapons, so probably Rocks gave them some infos.
Then, after the crew disbanded she took it to herself.
If Rocks had found the OP there is likely no great pirate era as Rogere wouldn't have sent everyone out to sea with his dying words. What does this mean for the 20 years they needed to wait? I have no clue but it's possible that he just bides his time with the information he was given and then takes on the WG as the Joy Boy (Evil Guy) of this era.