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[Bepo]

I feel like just this fight alone considerably elevates this arc. It's easily one of Shin's most satisfying duels.

Everything from the artstyle to the intensity was well executed.

Though it seems like Hara is settling for shorter, more concentrated battles, If he can keep up this quality then I’m content moving forward.

 

[Rumble]

It is rare for Hara to have bad ideas.

It's become far too common that the EXECUTION of those ideas are done poorly.

Aside from some of the contrived bullshit early in the arc, I have no problems with the ideas Hara has presented in the arc. A lot of them are better than good, they're fucking great.

Which makes it all the more frustrating when he underwhelms.

 

[Cichy]

This is a much more pivotal battle.

Plus, Rei Ou was killed when Wei had pretty much lost already.

Shin slaying Haku at the time he did, and in the manner he did it, is going to have immediate consequences for the state of Han itself.

I'm talking about which head was more valuable, not which battle was more pivotal. Reiou staying alive could cause Qin problems in a long term, not just in the context of battle.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Nah, that would be Reiou (even tho Shin was a bit lucky to get him).

Rei Ou was blind luck. Shin didn’t best Reiou at all, he kind of just randomly stumbled upon him and got lucky with the kill.

Keisha was a big achievement too but he definitely didn’t represent for Zhao what Hakuokoku represents for Han. The stakes were also nowhere near as high.

 

[God Buggy]

What if Hara has Shin actually claim Riboku's head?

 

[Rumble]

I'm talking about which head was more valuable, not which battle was more pivotal. Reiou staying alive could cause Qin problems in a long term, not just in the context of battle.

Reasonable people can disagree, but I think Haku had more value by virtue of being 1 of just 2 noteworthy generals Han has and Rei Ou spending 14 years in prison on top of being 1 of 4 Great Generals.

Peak for peak, I think it's almost a no-brainer Rei Ou was more valuable.

 

[Ninjashadow0209]

This chapter was VERY remiscent of Ren Pa vs Hakugoat.

One clearly superior martial type general with far more talent versus a lesser talent that stayed in it with heart alone.

This chapter is probably the most dominant Shin has been in a meaningful fight.

Is like when we read Renpa vs Mougou.

 

[BanditKanki]

Renpa lost to this dude

he lost to rakuakan first and foremost. And a Han army that had been through the trenches.

 

[Bullet]

This was a good fight and the last attack by Shin looks cool and is satisfyingly brutal but what's the point of having him win every war with a duel? Haku by virtue of his position should be a capable general but still not quite a Riboku level tactician so it would have been a good opportunity to utilize some instincts for the W.
"Oh this is my Kaishibou repellent formation" which Shin somehow figures out and then has this duel.

 

[BanditKanki]

Maybe I'm in the minority but I'm loving this arc so far and Shin vs HKK was a great fight considering Qin is on a time restraint for this war so a prolonged fight between generals is exactly what they're hoping to avoid.

I’m liking the arc a lot as well

I'm honestly disinclined to discussing Kingdom on this forum. Too many nitpicking schizos on here man.

While I do think the series has declined a little in quality, the tweakers are over exaggerating.

I agree.
It’s a very very vocal group that are spewing a lot of the dislike though. Loving, liking, disliking, hating the series are all fine but for some it feels like EVERY comment or post by some specific people is very negative. Makes the fandom quite unenjoyable or even toxic, and no it isn’t just because people don’t like it as much, it’s the barrage of negativity.

I remember TMF had a period like it around 2016, but those few members left and got bored so it got more fun again.

Rei Ou was blind luck. Shin didn’t best Reiou at all, he kind of just randomly stumbled upon him and got lucky with the kill.

Keisha was a big achievement too but he definitely didn’t represent for Zhao what Hakuokoku represents for Han. The stakes were also nowhere near as high.

Reasonable people can disagree, but I think Haku had more value by virtue of being 1 of just 2 noteworthy generals Han has and Rei Ou spending 14 years in prison on top of being 1 of 4 Great Generals.

Peak for peak, I think it's almost a no-brainer Rei Ou was more valuable.

he’s saying Reiou was the biggest name he killed I think.
tho we could discuss how powerful the fd name was at that point tbf

 

[Blackbeard]

Shin's full-page cleaving panels are amazing in general but that one is beautiful.

 

[Ninjashadow0209]

Haku isn't a match for even a Nerf Shin, damn.

 

[ray_san90]

I only enjoy Ousen and Kanki war tactic. The move against Zhou and Gyou city was the best strategy. This Han war is so poor, Tou just like Moubu. Boring 🙏🏻

 

[Pot Goblin]

Even got a bit of his shoulders god damn
Helluva spread

 

[LogicoftheVI]

I want to see how Yoko Yoko reacts to this and who ends up defeating him. The next few chapters should put an end to this battle and move us towards Han's inevitable surrender to Tou's Army with limited casualties.

 

[Owl Ki]

I honestly think the fact that Yoko didn't go down before Haku means he is surviving this battle.

This take will either age like milk or wine. 50/50 odds, let's go.

 

[LogicoftheVI]

I honestly think the fact that Yoko didn't go down before Haku means he is surviving this battle.

This take will either age like milk or wine. 50/50 odds, let's go.

I did not think about this, but you may just be on to something. If Yoko survives this will he be joining the Hi Shin unit or just protecting the princess of Han?

 

[Owl Ki]

I did not think about this, but you may just be on to something. If Yoko survives this will he be joining the Hi Shin unit or just protecting the princess of Han?

My bias wants him to join the HSU.

It would be cool for Shin to start convincing and recruiting enemy Generals in the name of uniting China. Renpa recruited Kyouen after fighting him so I would like to see Shin achieve a similar feat at least once.

Regardless, Qin does need to show that they aren't just going to wipe out wholesale the Generals and soldiers of every state that they conquer. Kanki tanked their PR so Tou and Shin are going to need to claw it back.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

I did not think about this, but you may just be on to something. If Yoko survives this will he be joining the Hi Shin unit or just protecting the princess of Han?

I talked about this a lot in TKC lol.

My problem with Yoko Yoko joining the HSU is he is just too powerful overall to be a subordinate of Shin at this point.

This dude is a warrior relative to Gaimou while also being competent enough to be allowed to speak on military affairs at the Han court. Shin has no other subs even close to that level.

Dismounted Kyoukai may as well be top 1 as a fighter, but on horseback she is basically nerfed to Aisen level or below. Even dismounted, her ability to affect the battlefield as a whole has never been shown to be all that high. She is purely a 1v1 atrocity and not that great of a force on the actual battlefield. Outside of the worst moment in Kingdom with Kaishibou’s elites I guess. And in terms of her IQ, she has her moments but I definitely don’t see a state capital inviting an untrained assassin to give military insight at this point lol.

And outside of Kai, who does the HSU even have? No one even close to Yoko’s level I can tell you that much. Sure Shin’s commanders can stall him by ganging up on him, but individually none of them are close to Yoko in any way.

Yoko Yoko is literally a Shin-ish caliber fighter while also being a better mind than anyone Shin has besides Karyo Ten. Nah, he’s just too stacked. Yoko Yoko would be a scary vassal for an actual Qin 6, Shin ain’t there yet.

 

[Owl Ki]

I talked about this a lot in TKC lol.

My problem with Yoko Yoko joining the HSU is he is just too powerful overall to be a subordinate of Shin at this point.

This dude is a warrior relative to Gaimou while also being competent enough to be allowed to speak on military affairs at the Han court. Shin has no other subs even close to that level.

Dismounted Kyoukai may as well be top 1 as a fighter, but on horseback she is basically nerfed to Aisen level or below. Even dismounted, her ability to affect the battlefield as a whole has never been shown to be all that high. She is purely a 1v1 atrocity and not that great of a force on the actual battlefield. Outside of the worst moment in Kingdom with Kaishibou’s elites I guess. And in terms of her IQ, she has her moments but I definitely don’t see a state capital inviting an untrained assassin to give military insight at this point lol.

And outside of Kai, who does the HSU even have? No one even close to Yoko’s level I can tell you that much. Sure Shin’s commanders can stall him by ganging up on him, but individually none of them are close to Yoko in any way.

Yoko Yoko is literally a Shin-ish caliber fighter while also being a better mind than anyone Shin has besides Karyo Ten. Nah, he’s just too stacked. Yoko Yoko would be a scary vassal for an actual Qin 6, Shin ain’t there yet.

A man can dream.

Yoko even has the Karyo Ten hat aesthetic.