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How strong was Prime Gaban ?


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Those are not mutually exclusive you know. They were less relevant the stronger foes he fought, the issue isnt the damage he accumulate its the stamina being depleted over time. He was literally holding an island that required an immense amount of stamina to keep moving and holding while fighting. When your stamina reaches 0 you lose no matter the amount of damage you took.
Apart from holding the island up nothing else was really relevant.

Top tiers can fight for days on end (Kaido himself fought BM in base for 3 days).

I don’t think any of the scabbards and most of the RT5 were relevant. Like at all.
 

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Kaido and BM won’t come back to participate in any fight lol. Oda will probably just reveal that BM turned into O-lin permanently or something.
Kaido will return like Crocodile returned, he will be the post timeskip enemy turned uneasy ally.

Did yall think Kaido’s obsession with Joyboy wouldn’t see him return as a Joyboy fan? Lol
 
Apart from holding the island up nothing else was really relevant.

Top tiers can fight for days on end (Kaido himself fought BM in base for 3 days).

I don’t think any of the scabbards and most of the RT5 were relevant. Like at all.
Oda will never show an on screen fight of top tiers fighting for days on end and you know it. Its a retarded argument. Kaido and BM fought for 3 days and guess what it was offscreen, its empty hype statements. Admirals will fall in a few hours too, Shanks vs BB will last a few hours too,etc.
 
Oden got one up on him when he was not in him prime.
Agree with the rest, but this one is debatable.
Even if he's not in his prime, the same benefit of doubt could also be given to Oden which has same age as Kaido.

If you said that Kaido isn't in his prime, you should also consider that Oden isn't in his prime too and he 'technically' beat Kaido.

Both Oden and Kaido are physical freak and already show it sincep their young age after all. So, it is not a stretch
 
Agree with the rest, but this one is debatable.
Even if he's not in his prime, the same benefit of doubt could also be given to Oden which has same age as Kaido.

If you said that Kaido isn't in his prime, you should also consider that Oden isn't in his prime too and he 'technically' beat Kaido.

Both Oden and Kaido are physical freak and already show it sincep their young age after all. So, it is not a stretch
Oden landed a hit on Dragon Form Kaido, a giant immobile target. That is what I meant by he got ''one up'' on him.
 
Oda will never show an on screen fight of top tiers fighting for days on end and you know it. Its a retarded argument. Kaido and BM fought for 3 days and guess what it was offscreen, its empty hype statements. Admirals will fall in a few hours too, Shanks vs BB will last a few hours too,etc.
This isn’t true, Luffy vs Katakuri was 12 hours and Luffy vs Kaido was an entire evening.

“Actual on panel fights will be short” is just cope
 
Oda will never show an on screen fight of top tiers fighting for days on end and you know it. Its a retarded argument. Kaido and BM fought for 3 days and guess what it was offscreen, its empty hype statements. Admirals will fall in a few hours too, Shanks vs BB will last a few hours too,etc.
This isn’t true, Luffy vs Katakuri was 12 hours and Luffy vs Kaido was an entire evening.

“Actual on panel fights will be short” is just cope
You just repeated what I said but whatever lol. Keep clinging to your 10 days fight when it comes down to it the fight will last half a day or something.
 
Don’t take this forum to be equal to the One Piece community lmao
Only the most toxic and most twerked people arrive in this forum, apart from theorists
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Dang if they’re post climax they may just be tired and take a nap
There are very calm interesting ninjas here but the agenda must prevail guys are also here
 
I guess I gotta spell it out for biased readers or people who are being intellectually dishonest.

Here is what we know for a fact about Kaido:

1- He likes playing around with his food which means he never goes all out on them from the start. Prove by how he fought the scabbards, proven by how he fought multiple versions of Luffy each stronger then the last.

2- Fighting this many people non stop drains stamina, holding and moving and entire island while fighting drains even more stamina. This is proven by the fact that momo who just tried moving Onigashima out of the way for a few second after Bajrang gun was exhausted. Kaido has been doing it for hours on end non stop fighting.

3- People like to downplay the gauntlet he went through because he fought people under his weight class, but

1- damage is cummulative,
2- we established he plays around and tests people so will take uneceassary damage,
3- His stamina isnt infinite and was slowly depleting through the fighters he was fighting and holding and moving the island.

4- When he finished his fight with Luffy pre G5 he was already nearing the end of his stamina limits as commented by Yamato herself. We know Awakened Zoans grant the user enhanced recovery and vitality. Luffys Mythical Zoan thus brought him back from the dead and was actively recovering him while they were fighting. At that point Kaido could barely even stand as proven when Luffy had to go through another round of G5, which funnily enough Kaido just stood there and watched him do it instead of killing him.

5- People like to use Kaidos top 5 to try and create their own headcanon of what they mean by saying that they were all stronger then him so why cant Shanks, ignoring completely the fact that he never said those 5 can defeat him, he said those 5 can fight him which mean he considered them peers to him. Now how can that be possible when one of the guys he considers a peer was his captain who died when Kaido was but an apprentice and far from his prime? For anyone with a modicum of reading comprehension and isnt a full time troll they would understand that Kaido was comparing those guys to his current prime self as thats the only thing that makes sense because of course apprentice Kaido who didnt even have his fucking fruit was no match for Rocks but the retards and insecure trolls here would like to ignore this fact and continue acting like buffoons.

In short: Yes, Kaido fought people under his weigh class, but thats by design, other top tiers wouldnt fuck around and mop up fast, he isnt not like them, he likes to play with his food this is canon fact, he likes to test people, he likes to take unecessary hits, he was draining his stamina for hours not only through those fights but carrying an entire island and moving it too which was commented on by his daughter Yamato. Those are all facts. When finally G5 Luffy happened the man was at the end of his ropes stamina wise and still performed extremely well we havent seen any top tier actually overpower G5 Luffy yet since Kaido.

So yeah for all of you retards who cant read or understand a manga for children, here is a quote from Oda:



Now you can all collectively line up and suck my dick.​
Kaido was at the end if his ropes stamina wise. But Luffy was at death’s door when he went gear 5.

Nobody would object to Kaido having ridiculous stamina given all that he did. But combat wise whatever gap there was closed by that time.
 
When? When did they attack Kaido together or coordinate attacks together?
Why are combo attacks your metric for whether 2 characters have accomplished anything as a duo or not

That’s incredibly silly

Did the Monster Trio not exist or not matter prior to Elbaf because their last combo attack was in Sabaody like 15 years ago?

Zoro covered for Luffy multiple times on the Rooftop and was the first to act when Kaido claimed he would take his head

Muh tHeY dIDn’T cOoRdInAte tHeIR aTTaCkS means nothing lol
 
There's not enough content lmao.
What is oda gonna show in 10 day battle.
Even if we get a flashback 10 days will be summarised in 3 panels.
“Not enough content”

What does that mean? Sounds goofy AF , he established the fight to be a 10-day fight from a single panel and gave it a result where both suffers from.

to establish that it was 10 days he even permanently marked PH with the elements of the two.

What does “not enough content” mean? Was Akainu and Kuzan throwing the same shit for 10 days or what,
 
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