Questions & Mysteries Oda confirms Emperor title > Bigger bounty, WGS + Marine Hunter titles
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We have Emperor's starting from 1.5 Bil or if you wanna go higher from 2.2 Bil all the way up to 5 Bil (5.5 is PK). We have had 4 Yonkos below 4 Bil and 4 above.
2.2 Bil BB
3 Bill SH
3.2 Bil Buggy
3.9 Bil BB
4 Bil Shanks
4.4 Bil BM
4.6 Bil Kaido
5 Bil WB
BB went from 2.2 Bil during Wano to 3.9 Bil post Wano. Did BB already eat some 3rd DF which was so OP that he went from 2.2 to 3.9 Bil or was the increase due to some pirating achievement? Its also not due to Aokiji joining BBs since it was already known.
2.2 Bil BB
3 Bill SH
3.2 Bil Buggy
3.9 Bil BB
4 Bil Shanks
4.4 Bil BM
4.6 Bil Kaido
5 Bil WB
BB went from 2.2 Bil during Wano to 3.9 Bil post Wano. Did BB already eat some 3rd DF which was so OP that he went from 2.2 to 3.9 Bil or was the increase due to some pirating achievement? Its also not due to Aokiji joining BBs since it was already known.
Edit: Oda confirms Emperor title > Bigger bounty, WGS, Marine Hunter titles by saying Mihawk is HIDING behind Buggy:
If you believe Mihawk should be Yonko level according to bounty, then Crocodile too should be minimum around some YC1s, and even more powerful than some YC1s according to bounty, we know Crocodile won't be that strong. Then how come some people being happy about Mihawk's bounty?
3 years ago I would say Crocodile gets maximum 600 million or 800 million bounty, considering he gets 1.9 billion is definitely abnormal unless you believe Crocodile surpassed YC3 level, which is debatable.
Since I gave PTSDs to a lot of people, they always make damage control threads by talking about me and now they even use my quote from 3 years ago in their signature that only proves that I destroyed a lot of these guys.
But you need to consider that 3 years ago we didn't know:
1- Mihawk is the first Marine Hunter:
Zolo fans said Mihawk isn't even a pirate and ''harmless'' to government. Crocodile revealed Mihawk was known as Marine Hunter long before Cross Guild.
They specifically said Cross Guild is a ''major major threat'' to Marines even when other Emperors are stronger than Cross Guild.
2- Being Yonko doesn't boost bounties:
Luffy bounty = Law bounty, Mihawk's Yonko captain has lower bounty than Mihawk, BB's first Yonko bounty was 2.2 billion, Luffy was fifth Emperor with 1.5 billion bounty, this means Yonko only gets their bounty for power.
3- Yonko captains boost Yonko underling bounties:
this means if captain and underling have equal power, underling gets bigger bounty than captain
4- Crocodile gets 1.9 billion bounty:
Unless you claim Cross Guild bounties are legit for power, thus 1.9 b Crocodile should be above:
- 1.3 b Marco
- 1.3 b Alber
- 1.1 b Zolo
We all know ZKKboys will leave the forum again when Oda once again puts Mihawk in action but lets entertain this idea again,
- The argument that the some ZKK boys and Zolo fanboys are using that, Mihawk's WGS title is the only reason he gets 3.5 billion, they deny Mihawk getting extra boost due to Yonko captain boosts underling bounties, and being the Marine Hunter and joining Cross Guild etc they deny all of these.
- Then how its possible that the guy who can ''command'' Mihawk by ''power'' has only 3.1 billion? If Mihawk has bigger bounty than even his own Yonko captain, due to his power only, then why his Yonko captain is not even has equal bounty to Mihawk let alone bigger?
Excuses: ''They know Buggy isn't strong''
Wrong. Government and Buggy's men specifically think Buggy is strong:
The idea that they know Buggy isn't strong is debunked, they think Buggy is strong + commands Mihawk's power and Croco's power.
If what I said about Mihawk having 3 billion minimum should be true, his captain should've get minimum 3.6 billion not 3.1 billion. Oda literally tells us Mihawk's bounty is boosted for other reasons JUST LIKE CROCODILE'S 1.9 billion, so Mihawk's alone bounty, without Cross Guild and Marine Hunting, would definitely be lower thant 3.1 billion.
Another ''Excuse'':
''ThEy sAid Crocodile has intElligenNce aNd leAdeRships''
They never said its about out of battle intelligence and out of battle leadership. If a genius like Caesar Clown gets only 300 million bounty, its dumb to assume they meant out of battle intelligence for Crocodile.
Croc's bounty is just boosted too much due to Marine Hunting just like Mihawk.
Then also they were saying Shanks has 4 billion because he is a Yonko, which is debunked because as we see that EVEN MIHAWK'S OWN YONKO CAPTAIN Buggy, has only 3.1 billion, then why another Yonko Shanks doesn't have as same as Buggy's 3.1 billion?
''WGS Mihawk Yield to Buggy's authority''
''The power to command''
If you believe Mihawk gets due to 3.5 billion because of WGS title over Shanks, and power over Shanks since you believe he is stronger than Shanks? Shouldn't be Mihawk above Shanks's bounty as well just like Mihawk is above Yonko Buggy's bounty?
4 billion Shanks can't control Mihawk by ''power'',
and being Yonko doesn't boost his bounty, Shanks is not a Marine Hunter, then why Shanks has 4 billion?
Because of superior combat power.
Pre-Yonko Shanks and WGS Mihawk dueled more than 12 years ago and no one won,
Mihawk: ''settle things''
And Shanks only got 1 billion bounty at the time when he had 2 hands, and dueled WGS Mihawk.
4 billion Shanks did better things since then, even better than making Mihawk his underling, he surpasses Yonko Buggy's 3.1 billion range, which you get if you make 3.5 billion WGS Mihawk your underling.
Zolo vs. Alber, Zolo defeats Alber, only gets 1.1 billion, Alber still have 1.3 billion. Buggy makes Mihawk his underling, Mihawk still has 3.5 billion, Buggy gets 3.1 billion. How do you know Zolo won't be the same? Zolo can defeat Mihawk, still end up with less than 3.1 billion bounty or around that bounty.
Because making someone your underling > defeating that someone with highdiff or extreme diff.
Zolo can never make Mihawk his underling, so I don't see how Zolo will get more than 3.1 billion when he defeats Mihawk. This also proves Mihawk's bounty has nothing to do with power.
If you believe Mihawk should be Yonko level according to bounty, then Crocodile too should be minimum around some YC1s, and even more powerful than some YC1s according to bounty, we know Crocodile won't be that strong. Then how come some people being happy about Mihawk's bounty?
3 years ago I would say Crocodile gets maximum 600 million or 800 million bounty, considering he gets 1.9 billion is definitely abnormal unless you believe Crocodile surpassed YC3 level, which is debatable.
Since I gave PTSDs to a lot of people, they always make damage control threads by talking about me and now they even use my quote from 3 years ago in their signature that only proves that I destroyed a lot of these guys.
But you need to consider that 3 years ago we didn't know:
1- Mihawk is the first Marine Hunter:
Zolo fans said Mihawk isn't even a pirate and ''harmless'' to government. Crocodile revealed Mihawk was known as Marine Hunter long before Cross Guild.
They specifically said Cross Guild is a ''major major threat'' to Marines even when other Emperors are stronger than Cross Guild.
2- Being Yonko doesn't boost bounties:
Luffy bounty = Law bounty, Mihawk's Yonko captain has lower bounty than Mihawk, BB's first Yonko bounty was 2.2 billion, Luffy was fifth Emperor with 1.5 billion bounty, this means Yonko only gets their bounty for power.
3- Yonko captains boost Yonko underling bounties:
this means if captain and underling have equal power, underling gets bigger bounty than captain
4- Crocodile gets 1.9 billion bounty:
Unless you claim Cross Guild bounties are legit for power, thus 1.9 b Crocodile should be above:
- 1.3 b Marco
- 1.3 b Alber
- 1.1 b Zolo
We all know ZKKboys will leave the forum again when Oda once again puts Mihawk in action but lets entertain this idea again,
- The argument that the some ZKK boys and Zolo fanboys are using that, Mihawk's WGS title is the only reason he gets 3.5 billion, they deny Mihawk getting extra boost due to Yonko captain boosts underling bounties, and being the Marine Hunter and joining Cross Guild etc they deny all of these.
- Then how its possible that the guy who can ''command'' Mihawk by ''power'' has only 3.1 billion? If Mihawk has bigger bounty than even his own Yonko captain, due to his power only, then why his Yonko captain is not even has equal bounty to Mihawk let alone bigger?
Excuses: ''They know Buggy isn't strong''
Wrong. Government and Buggy's men specifically think Buggy is strong:
The idea that they know Buggy isn't strong is debunked, they think Buggy is strong + commands Mihawk's power and Croco's power.
If what I said about Mihawk having 3 billion minimum should be true, his captain should've get minimum 3.6 billion not 3.1 billion. Oda literally tells us Mihawk's bounty is boosted for other reasons JUST LIKE CROCODILE'S 1.9 billion, so Mihawk's alone bounty, without Cross Guild and Marine Hunting, would definitely be lower thant 3.1 billion.
Another ''Excuse'':
''ThEy sAid Crocodile has intElligenNce aNd leAdeRships''
They never said its about out of battle intelligence and out of battle leadership. If a genius like Caesar Clown gets only 300 million bounty, its dumb to assume they meant out of battle intelligence for Crocodile.
Croc's bounty is just boosted too much due to Marine Hunting just like Mihawk.
Then also they were saying Shanks has 4 billion because he is a Yonko, which is debunked because as we see that EVEN MIHAWK'S OWN YONKO CAPTAIN Buggy, has only 3.1 billion, then why another Yonko Shanks doesn't have as same as Buggy's 3.1 billion?
''WGS Mihawk Yield to Buggy's authority''
''The power to command''
If you believe Mihawk gets due to 3.5 billion because of WGS title over Shanks, and power over Shanks since you believe he is stronger than Shanks? Shouldn't be Mihawk above Shanks's bounty as well just like Mihawk is above Yonko Buggy's bounty?
4 billion Shanks can't control Mihawk by ''power'',
and being Yonko doesn't boost his bounty, Shanks is not a Marine Hunter, then why Shanks has 4 billion?
Because of superior combat power.
Pre-Yonko Shanks and WGS Mihawk dueled more than 12 years ago and no one won,
Mihawk: ''settle things''
And Shanks only got 1 billion bounty at the time when he had 2 hands, and dueled WGS Mihawk.
4 billion Shanks did better things since then, even better than making Mihawk his underling, he surpasses Yonko Buggy's 3.1 billion range, which you get if you make 3.5 billion WGS Mihawk your underling.
Zolo vs. Alber, Zolo defeats Alber, only gets 1.1 billion, Alber still have 1.3 billion. Buggy makes Mihawk his underling, Mihawk still has 3.5 billion, Buggy gets 3.1 billion. How do you know Zolo won't be the same? Zolo can defeat Mihawk, still end up with less than 3.1 billion bounty or around that bounty.
Because making someone your underling > defeating that someone with highdiff or extreme diff.
Zolo can never make Mihawk his underling, so I don't see how Zolo will get more than 3.1 billion when he defeats Mihawk. This also proves Mihawk's bounty has nothing to do with power.
Cross Guild got that 500M-1B inflation
That doesnt make sense though
Yami BB fights and defeats Ace and then becomes Warlord
He raids ID, gets extra crew, goes to MF, gets Gura
Time skip starts
He then takes on WB territory and wins Payback War
Rocky Port incident happens
Time skip ends
Aokiji is allied with BB (was done during TS but this is latest)
Ten titanic captains confirmed in DR
BBPs raid Baltigo
Wano starts (Reverie is going on I think at same time)
Shanks talks about certain pirate (BB or maybe Loki)
Wano Act 2 happens and we get bounties of Yonkos
BB gets 2.2-2.3 Bil bounty
Wano ends
Post wano we get BB's new bounty of 3.9 Bil
The point is that powerscaling wise it makes no sense for 40 year old BB who got two DFs in MF and everybody saw it to go from 2.2 Bil to 3.9 bil bounty. He already did so much during the TS and pre Wano Act 3 that his power level should be clear for everyone. The Yami teach to Emperor Teach power level was already established when he went from someone hiding behind WB and no known bounty to getting 2.2 Bil direct bounty during or after Reverie.
We saw how Emperors are being made, Luffy gets touted as an Emperor after WCI but we get confirmation that that is not what an Emperor level is, sure he has alliances and achievements but his power level is not enough (BB talks about how it is too soon, Kaido one shots him, Shanks remarks that time of their meeting is coming near meaning Luffy is getting there but hasnt reached the point). We see BB becoming Emperor with his never before seen two DFs (a special Logia and the strongest Paramecia) and beating WBPs and taking over their territory. We see Buggy becoming Yonko because he has Mihawk and Crocodile under him and being seen as Shanks rival.
Luffy gets his bounty as one of three captains to take down the Kaido-BM alliance but he is also the only one of the three to be called a Yonko because he has that bigger resume compared to the other two. To the outside world they only know that SN trio took down BM and Kaido, the details are missing.
Yami BB fights and defeats Ace and then becomes Warlord
He raids ID, gets extra crew, goes to MF, gets Gura
Time skip starts
He then takes on WB territory and wins Payback War
Rocky Port incident happens
Time skip ends
Aokiji is allied with BB (was done during TS but this is latest)
Ten titanic captains confirmed in DR
BBPs raid Baltigo
Wano starts (Reverie is going on I think at same time)
Shanks talks about certain pirate (BB or maybe Loki)
Wano Act 2 happens and we get bounties of Yonkos
BB gets 2.2-2.3 Bil bounty
Wano ends
Post wano we get BB's new bounty of 3.9 Bil
The point is that powerscaling wise it makes no sense for 40 year old BB who got two DFs in MF and everybody saw it to go from 2.2 Bil to 3.9 bil bounty. He already did so much during the TS and pre Wano Act 3 that his power level should be clear for everyone. The Yami teach to Emperor Teach power level was already established when he went from someone hiding behind WB and no known bounty to getting 2.2 Bil direct bounty during or after Reverie.
We saw how Emperors are being made, Luffy gets touted as an Emperor after WCI but we get confirmation that that is not what an Emperor level is, sure he has alliances and achievements but his power level is not enough (BB talks about how it is too soon, Kaido one shots him, Shanks remarks that time of their meeting is coming near meaning Luffy is getting there but hasnt reached the point). We see BB becoming Emperor with his never before seen two DFs (a special Logia and the strongest Paramecia) and beating WBPs and taking over their territory. We see Buggy becoming Yonko because he has Mihawk and Crocodile under him and being seen as Shanks rival.
Luffy gets his bounty as one of three captains to take down the Kaido-BM alliance but he is also the only one of the three to be called a Yonko because he has that bigger resume compared to the other two. To the outside world they only know that SN trio took down BM and Kaido, the details are missing.
