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Imagine entering a large hangar filled with columns of big boxes.
It's dark and you only have a lamp to move. There are monsters hidding in the shadows.
A bit like that:
In such an environment, it's hard to see and understand your surroundings. There may be monster in shadows, it's hard to understand the path or the structure of the entire thing and what you need to do to arrive to destination.
Well..
When you use Materialism, it's like someone turned on the lights and made space for you.
The system becomes much more easier to understand in its globality. You will still need to fight the monsters hidding in the system, but you will see them, know who they are and know where they come from.
Materialism allows us to understand the world. From the Quanta to possible multiverses and from your relationship with your family, to the entire structures of societies on earth.
I'm not joking when I say that being a materialist is form of enlightenment. Everything becomes clearer, the monsters become humans, the path become simpler, the structures of society become more interesting and the world becomes a surprising wonder instead of a chaotic dark hangar.
And most of all, materialism shows us that there is something to fight for. A form of society that most people can't even dream of. Materialism allows us to materialize utopia. To make it real, tangible and atteignable.
It's the philosophy that shows us that the dream of Piece is not impossible to realize.
It's light in darkness.
It's dark and you only have a lamp to move. There are monsters hidding in the shadows.
A bit like that:
In such an environment, it's hard to see and understand your surroundings. There may be monster in shadows, it's hard to understand the path or the structure of the entire thing and what you need to do to arrive to destination.
Well..
When you use Materialism, it's like someone turned on the lights and made space for you.
The system becomes much more easier to understand in its globality. You will still need to fight the monsters hidding in the system, but you will see them, know who they are and know where they come from.
Materialism allows us to understand the world. From the Quanta to possible multiverses and from your relationship with your family, to the entire structures of societies on earth.
I'm not joking when I say that being a materialist is form of enlightenment. Everything becomes clearer, the monsters become humans, the path become simpler, the structures of society become more interesting and the world becomes a surprising wonder instead of a chaotic dark hangar.
And most of all, materialism shows us that there is something to fight for. A form of society that most people can't even dream of. Materialism allows us to materialize utopia. To make it real, tangible and atteignable.
It's the philosophy that shows us that the dream of Piece is not impossible to realize.
It's light in darkness.
That's what it is all about really. You want an oversimplification.
EU media is Democrat-leaning so ofc they will be happy about a non-aligned ruler being removed, even if the alternative is literal ISIS. And of course, Christians being massacred is a very nice plus for them. Ursula just said she wants to give Al Sharaa 2 billions, it should be regarded as mass contract-killing.
Not from my point of view.
It's not about simplification, it's about clatification.
A lot of social and physical systems are very complex in the universe. Materialism does not intend to make them simpler but more understandable.
I will try another metaphor:
Idealism and Materialism is difference between advancing in a dark labyrinth (idealism) against seeing the entirerity of a labyrinth from above. (materialism)
IDEALISM :
MATERIALISM:
It's not about simplification, it's about clatification.
A lot of social and physical systems are very complex in the universe. Materialism does not intend to make them simpler but more understandable.
I will try another metaphor:
Idealism and Materialism is difference between advancing in a dark labyrinth (idealism) against seeing the entirerity of a labyrinth from above. (materialism)
IDEALISM :
MATERIALISM:
Not from my point of view.
It's not about simplification, it's about clatification.
A lot of social and physical systems are very complex in the universe. Materialism does not intend to make them simpler but more understandable.
I will try another metaphor:
Idealism and Materialism is difference between advancing in a dark labyrinth (idealism) against seeing the entirerity of a labyrinth from above. (materialism)
IDEALISM :
MATERIALISM:
It's not about simplification, it's about clatification.
A lot of social and physical systems are very complex in the universe. Materialism does not intend to make them simpler but more understandable.
I will try another metaphor:
Idealism and Materialism is difference between advancing in a dark labyrinth (idealism) against seeing the entirerity of a labyrinth from above. (materialism)
IDEALISM :
MATERIALISM:
For the last time :
I'm not a savior and you guyz are NOT DUMB.
It's not about the knowledge and it's not about intelligence.
You simply do not look at reality with an efficient LENS (=tool) and it just happen that I do.
That's all.
I never said that I was an intellectual. In fact I remember saying a lot of time that I was dumb on a lot of things.
FOr exemple, I'm BAAAAAAD at everything related to langage. I simply can't understand grammar. Even in French. I know that. But on other fields, I have the good tools.
This is the case for the global comprehension of reality. MAterialism is not some deep knowledge stuff. It's just the RIGHT LENS to look at reality.
It's just a tool. A proper and effective form of logic.
Again, you are not dumb. In fact I have said multiple time that I always refused to call you that in a serious manner.
It's not about intelligence or knowledge. (at least with materialism). It's about the lens.
Take the right lens, and you will see your entire reality slightly shifting until you find your old vision outdated. It's as simple as that.
You do not understand. There is no oversimplification here. Don't make the asssumption that materialism only explains physical things.
Materialism means understanding systems.
For example. To understand Capitalism, a materialist will try to understand all the paramater of capitalism.
From that point, a materialist can understand the origin and tipping point of capitalism, which is the colonization of the New World. A materialist will also try to understand the social parameters behind said colonization and different systems of dominations, he will study the domination relationships between different actors, he will study how ideologies and visions shapes the world view of the actors, how the capitals influence everything.
A materialist will - for example - understand that capitalism and neocolonializm doesn't work the same way in South american and in north Africa.
You have been taught a very reduced and caricatural vision of materialism. It's much deeper and complex and human than you think.
Materialism, for example, put a lot of weight on empathy and how empathy can be different in function of the endogroups. This is why being a materialist means understanding why sayin "you must be more empathic" to a far rightist, is useless. Because far rightist ARE empathic, just not with people outside of their endogroups.
There is a very simple exemple of that : Strikes.
The reason why strikes exist is because someone once thought in a materialistic way and understood that the only way to balance the domination relationship between a dominant force (the boss) and the dominated force (the worker) was to understand WHERE was the REAL power behind the relationship.
The real power comes from the worker and not the boss. Hence, by striking, the worker tip the balance in their favor and impose their conditions to the boss.
This is what materialistic thinking means. It's understanding how social and physical systems work in order to understand the dynamic of power.
It just happen that capitalism is such a dominating force that it prevent the worker to impose their strenght on the Boss and give them reason not to strike in order to survive. It's like a gun pointing at their heads if they rebel.
----
And this can be applied to this system as well - even if there is no relationship of exploitation. We are in a relationship of domination between a systems (the staff) and us (the users).
So as a materialist, I know that if ALONE I try to tip the balance, the only thing that I will get is either the system laughing at me or the other user turning against me.
Hence, the only way this could really change is:
- Either someone on top chooses to listen but it's not in their interest
- EIther everyone chooses to stay outside the forum unless the system changes (it's against the interests of users)
- Either there is a big force applied to push people to change inside the system.
I tried the only method I could (the third) but alone, I'm not enough. So I quit. Even if I can't shake the hope of the system becoming better.
If you look around, you will see thousands of proof that materialistic thinking is the way to go. But society is structured in way to prevent you from thinking like that.
I'm not a savior and you guyz are NOT DUMB.
It's not about the knowledge and it's not about intelligence.
You simply do not look at reality with an efficient LENS (=tool) and it just happen that I do.
That's all.
I never said that I was an intellectual. In fact I remember saying a lot of time that I was dumb on a lot of things.
FOr exemple, I'm BAAAAAAD at everything related to langage. I simply can't understand grammar. Even in French. I know that. But on other fields, I have the good tools.
This is the case for the global comprehension of reality. MAterialism is not some deep knowledge stuff. It's just the RIGHT LENS to look at reality.
It's just a tool. A proper and effective form of logic.
Again, you are not dumb. In fact I have said multiple time that I always refused to call you that in a serious manner.
It's not about intelligence or knowledge. (at least with materialism). It's about the lens.
Take the right lens, and you will see your entire reality slightly shifting until you find your old vision outdated. It's as simple as that.
You do not understand. There is no oversimplification here. Don't make the asssumption that materialism only explains physical things.
Materialism means understanding systems.
For example. To understand Capitalism, a materialist will try to understand all the paramater of capitalism.
From that point, a materialist can understand the origin and tipping point of capitalism, which is the colonization of the New World. A materialist will also try to understand the social parameters behind said colonization and different systems of dominations, he will study the domination relationships between different actors, he will study how ideologies and visions shapes the world view of the actors, how the capitals influence everything.
A materialist will - for example - understand that capitalism and neocolonializm doesn't work the same way in South american and in north Africa.
You have been taught a very reduced and caricatural vision of materialism. It's much deeper and complex and human than you think.
Materialism, for example, put a lot of weight on empathy and how empathy can be different in function of the endogroups. This is why being a materialist means understanding why sayin "you must be more empathic" to a far rightist, is useless. Because far rightist ARE empathic, just not with people outside of their endogroups.
There is a very simple exemple of that : Strikes.
The reason why strikes exist is because someone once thought in a materialistic way and understood that the only way to balance the domination relationship between a dominant force (the boss) and the dominated force (the worker) was to understand WHERE was the REAL power behind the relationship.
The real power comes from the worker and not the boss. Hence, by striking, the worker tip the balance in their favor and impose their conditions to the boss.
This is what materialistic thinking means. It's understanding how social and physical systems work in order to understand the dynamic of power.
It just happen that capitalism is such a dominating force that it prevent the worker to impose their strenght on the Boss and give them reason not to strike in order to survive. It's like a gun pointing at their heads if they rebel.
----
And this can be applied to this system as well - even if there is no relationship of exploitation. We are in a relationship of domination between a systems (the staff) and us (the users).
So as a materialist, I know that if ALONE I try to tip the balance, the only thing that I will get is either the system laughing at me or the other user turning against me.
Hence, the only way this could really change is:
- Either someone on top chooses to listen but it's not in their interest
- EIther everyone chooses to stay outside the forum unless the system changes (it's against the interests of users)
- Either there is a big force applied to push people to change inside the system.
I tried the only method I could (the third) but alone, I'm not enough. So I quit. Even if I can't shake the hope of the system becoming better.
If you look around, you will see thousands of proof that materialistic thinking is the way to go. But society is structured in way to prevent you from thinking like that.
