Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1143 Spoilers Discussion

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I do. Is Garling, Oda wouldn't randomly introduce him last arc just for sake.

Garling was the former God Knight's supreme commander, I bet he was the one that made a deal with Harald and probably the author of Loki/Harald confrontation.

Shamrock has to deal with the food thing in Maryjoa, Garling is the one coming to Elbaf.
Oda open the box with the HK freely summoning themselves at Elbaf, so any gorosei could pull off whenever they want.
I think the 12 contenders for the one piece gonna be in a battle royale. So I dont think Garling will fall this arc
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Kinnemon is still fodder, the only relevant thing he did was cut Kaidos boro breath with a technique. I see what you mean but the dukes> Shutenmaru - Denjiro>>> Kinnemon lol.
Those guys are also Jack lvl.

I'm obviously saying Kinemon was established well below the likes of Vergo and Pica. And Jack said the F6 are no match for Scabbards, he didn't discriminate. Kinemon being the leader was obviously included in that statement.

This is why I am no longer entertaining any Vergo vs F6 discussions. He has insane feats and portrayal. Falling to Law's hax when cocky does not put any cap on him.
 
Yet you're the ones shitting yourselves at the possibility of a half dead prisoner beating your faves and that's why y'all are celebrating rn. :milaugh:

The previous weeks had y'all twerking and THAT was funny af lol.
The switch is crazy, instead of acknowledging you were wrong about your expectations it became us being wrong lmao.

Weren't you celebrating around that Loki's hit and in his state M3s would be needed to stop him?
Not to mention your brother spammed it on TL with a hashtag #FearLoki lmao, just to have him fainting against a weak blow of base Luffy.
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I'm going to try not to have this be an actual discussion because it's pretty clear they stomp them, but I will say this
The Scabbards, even when injured, were still portrayed above the Tobiroppo.
And as we know, Ulti and WsW have better feats than Vergo.
So Scabbards < Vergo logically makes no sense whatsoever.
This only proves that F6 are far weaker than Vergo.

Just to let you know, during PH/DR no one dared to question if Kinemon/Kanjuro were stronger than Vergo or the rest of Doffy's top executives.
 
The Ope Ope no mi is a fruit worth as much as Primebeard. PH Law could make short work of most YC below YC1, but Luffy would struggle greatly. That's just how their powers operate.

Cracker is a bad matchup for Luffy but a joke matchup for Law or even fricking Jinbe with water.
The mountain slash is bisecting Jack and Cracker combined if they charge at Law cockily. Vergo sama is clean in feats and portrayal.
 
This only proves that F6 are far weaker than Vergo.

Just to let you know, during PH/DR no one dared to question if Kinemon/Kanjuro were stronger than Vergo or the rest of Doffy's top executives.
They also didn't explicitly state if Luffy and Zoro were above Vergo. Yet we know for a fact they are.
I really don't care about whether or not the characters think it, because we know from Kinemon's feats and portrayal that he's above Vergo.
 

Fujishiro

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Those guys are also Jack lvl.

I'm obviously saying Kinemon was established well below the likes of Vergo and Pica. And Jack said the F6 are no match for Scabbards, he didn't discriminate. Kinemon being the leader was obviously included in that statement.

This is why I am no longer entertaining any Vergo vs F6 discussions. He has insane feats and portrayal. Falling to Law's hax when cocky does not put any cap on him.
I think the implication there was about the stronger scabbards like Shutenmaru and Dukes but you do you lol. Im sure Jack was refering to Kinnemon too lol.

This only proves that F6 are far weaker than Vergo.

Just to let you know, during PH/DR no one dared to question if Kinemon/Kanjuro were stronger than Vergo or the rest of Doffy's top executives.
This is for you too.
 
Those guys are also Jack lvl.

I'm obviously saying Kinemon was established well below the likes of Vergo and Pica. And Jack said the F6 are no match for Scabbards, he didn't discriminate. Kinemon being the leader was obviously included in that statement.

This is why I am no longer entertaining any Vergo vs F6 discussions. He has insane feats and portrayal. Falling to Law's hax when cocky does not put any cap on him.
Kinemon was ready to slice Jack up. The Dukes only stopped him because they had a score to settle with him.

We also know that even Kanjuro, once getting serious, was quite a threat. Able to destroy a fleet with ink shaped into needles raining down, creating flaming Yokai that burn everything down and creating Oden clones that stab Ashura to death. We know Ashura could go toe to toe with Jack after blitzing him, Denjuro could easily stall Nitoryu Zoro, the Dukes even in base come close to a commander, let alone in Sulong form.

But somehow their leader is the only one that is supposed to be fodder. People just have cognitive dissonance. It is as you said; the participants of Punk Hazard (Vergo, Smoker, Law) were just that strong, that Kinemon looked weak. It's not that Kinemon was actually weak.
 
Oda's father must've been a 100% asshole of a guy considering all the shitty fathers the guy created.

Heavy contrast to all the mothers who are always saints.

Except the old mamas = probably the granma (father side)

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Fujishiro

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Jack didn’t fight the entire scabbards if I recall only the dukes, and he fought them twice. He has never fought Kinnemon to know his strength. But sure lol he was refering to kinnemon.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Kinemon was ready to slice Jack up. The Dukes only stopped him because they had a score to settle with him.

We also know that even Kanjuro, once getting serious, was quite a threat. Able to destroy a fleet with ink shaped into needles raining down, creating flaming Yokai that burn everything down and creating Oden clones that stab Ashura to death. We know Ashura could go toe to toe with Jack after blitzing him, Denjuro could easily stall Nitoryu Zoro, the Dukes even in base come close to a commander, let alone in Sulong form.

But somehow their leader is the only one that is supposed to be fodder. People just have cognitive dissonance. It is as you said; the participants of Punk Hazard (Vergo, Smoker, Law) were just that strong, that Kinemon looked weak. It's not that Kinemon was actually weak.
People simply can't admit when they're wrong, Kinemon's performance in Wano proved me wrong, which means I had to reassess how strong the Punk Hazard and Dressrosa characters who made Kinemon look like a small fry were. Kinemon isn't weak, those dudes were just top billing.

And looking back at Vergo's feats and portrayal, it is completely in line with this scale. His feats are mental. He made Sanji look like a chump with a single nameless kick.
 
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