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Speculations So is Jinbe vs Jack basically inevitable now?
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It’s inevitable in the same way the sun rising each morning is inevitable - you know it’s going to happen, but you’re not entirely sure why. However, I think calling anything in this series other than a PIS-fueled trip to Laugh Tale “inevitable” is a bad move, Oda is constantly subverting our expectations and never more so than in this arc.
Is it reasonable? Absolutely. Defensible? The way he’s matched villains up with the protagonists before, you can easily make a case. Inevitable? Hmm...
Is it reasonable? Absolutely. Defensible? The way he’s matched villains up with the protagonists before, you can easily make a case. Inevitable? Hmm...
Nobody can be sure about which matchups will eventually come out of this. 5 chapters ago people would've made a bet that Inu/Neko fight Jack, now they don't.
It's another case of Oda trying to stay unpredictable, it's annoying.
This is a war like Luffy said. I doubt that there will be traditional 1v1 battles, just matchups that could change with every chapter.
Jinbe could fight Jack or Big mom or fucking Sasaki next chapter. We can't know.
It's another case of Oda trying to stay unpredictable, it's annoying.
This is a war like Luffy said. I doubt that there will be traditional 1v1 battles, just matchups that could change with every chapter.
Jinbe could fight Jack or Big mom or fucking Sasaki next chapter. We can't know.
What would be wrong with that? honestly. What has sanji done to show that he is on par with a calamity? Luffy couldn't even beat cracker in a 1v1 post dressrosa and Jack might even be stronger than cracker.
Sanji was taking Ls against full zoan drake, a form in which Drake was actually the least effective at fighting speedy fighters like sanji.
From his portrayal against drake, I fail to see how it would be beneath sanji to take on Who's Who.
Zoro vs jack is actually not a bad idea.
jack has more buildup than the other calamities. I think this might be because Oda wants him to face a straw hat
Sanji was taking Ls against full zoan drake, a form in which Drake was actually the least effective at fighting speedy fighters like sanji.
From his portrayal against drake, I fail to see how it would be beneath sanji to take on Who's Who.
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Zoro vs jack is actually not a bad idea.
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jack has more buildup than the other calamities. I think this might be because Oda wants him to face a straw hat
And King and Queen are narratively way more important than the Tobi Roppo. Jabura and Kaku were just stronger than the others.
King and Queen are the only beast pirates that were with Kaido 20 years ago, they are loyal to Kaido not captains who bent the knee.
Kid wants to fight Kaido, and both him and Law are needed against Kaido as soon as possible. The others can join Luffy later.
Not to mention what Queen has in common with Sanji's previous opponents.
King and Queen are the only beast pirates that were with Kaido 20 years ago, they are loyal to Kaido not captains who bent the knee.
Kid wants to fight Kaido, and both him and Law are needed against Kaido as soon as possible. The others can join Luffy later.
Not to mention what Queen has in common with Sanji's previous opponents.
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Canon happening in Wano:
Zoro took an L against nails and another L against stomach pain and another L against a not serious Apoo and another L against 3 random gifters and besides he couldn't even kill some random ninjas after we've seen them again in the banquet hall. So using "Reason" and "Logic", Zoro isn't ready to face a Number let alone an F6 member so he at most will be fighting a Holdem-tier headliner opponent.
Again Sanji took an L against X Drake's tail and another L against Page 1 claw so using "Reason" and "Logic" again then since he did a bit better than Zoro then he should at most face a Number or another F6 member.
For Luffy he took an L against a casual Kaido and another L against some virus and another L against a joking Apoo and another L against Boss Ulti' head-butt. So by "Reason" and "Logic", Luffy is facing Perospero at most. Jack is still a bit above his Level.
So in conclusion, since Jinbe can breathe underwater, a feat so great that's even beyond Big Mom and rendered her amnesiac when she tried it, then "Logically" Jinbei is usurping Luffy as captain after he takes down Big Mom and Kaido at the same time and become Known as the WSKP, Word Strongest Karate Practitioner.
I'm sory Monster Trio fans but "logic" dictates that Jinbei is taking over the show, becoming the next MC of One Piece.
Zoro took an L against nails and another L against stomach pain and another L against a not serious Apoo and another L against 3 random gifters and besides he couldn't even kill some random ninjas after we've seen them again in the banquet hall. So using "Reason" and "Logic", Zoro isn't ready to face a Number let alone an F6 member so he at most will be fighting a Holdem-tier headliner opponent.
Again Sanji took an L against X Drake's tail and another L against Page 1 claw so using "Reason" and "Logic" again then since he did a bit better than Zoro then he should at most face a Number or another F6 member.
For Luffy he took an L against a casual Kaido and another L against some virus and another L against a joking Apoo and another L against Boss Ulti' head-butt. So by "Reason" and "Logic", Luffy is facing Perospero at most. Jack is still a bit above his Level.
So in conclusion, since Jinbe can breathe underwater, a feat so great that's even beyond Big Mom and rendered her amnesiac when she tried it, then "Logically" Jinbei is usurping Luffy as captain after he takes down Big Mom and Kaido at the same time and become Known as the WSKP, Word Strongest Karate Practitioner.
I'm sory Monster Trio fans but "logic" dictates that Jinbei is taking over the show, becoming the next MC of One Piece.
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Imagine thinking Apoo or Hawkins have a better chances of being matched up against Jack than Jinbe does ^^". Drake is interesting and clearly has a much bigger role to play than the earlier two in this arc but I think it's very unlikely that he gets 1 v 1 against the Calamities at the expense of Jinbe.
I personally don't think there is anything wrong with pitting them against each other because they are fishmen. I mean in the same way, you match Zoro up against the swordsman and Sanji up against the martial artist, Jack could very well be a fishman karate user cosndering he is a fishman but even then, that is not all there is with this matchup. King & Queen have some personality traits with Zoro & Sanji and also share the same rivalry the two have and Jack & Jinbe being fishmen also adheres to this same similarity pattern.
Moreover, if Zoro & Sanji are fighting calamities, I don't see how Jinbe doesn't fight a calamity as well. He's effectively top 3 in the crew save Luffy regardless of how you rank him in that group, so there's that as well.
Moreover, if Zoro & Sanji are fighting calamities, I don't see how Jinbe doesn't fight a calamity as well. He's effectively top 3 in the crew save Luffy regardless of how you rank him in that group, so there's that as well.
Oda also teased a Zoro/Kid/Law trio both last chapter and in the current one but for some reason,it is often ignored.
Law/Kid/Luffy shared panels teasing them joining forces during the raid but that is nullified by the Zoro/Law/Kid panel last chapter so I don't get the A3 hype when they were teased just as much as the latter trio.
Law/Kid/Luffy shared panels teasing them joining forces during the raid but that is nullified by the Zoro/Law/Kid panel last chapter so I don't get the A3 hype when they were teased just as much as the latter trio.
