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@Blackbeard you can also check when Zoro uses Enma for the first time. I think that's how it works when haki is sent through the swords to cut something / anything for that matter. Even in that situation, you can see the Enma wasn't entirely coated entirely
Yes basically being able to cut anything you want is the penetrating haki.
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Yes basically being able to cut anything you want is the penetrating haki.
It makes zero sense narratively for 9 guys to use a power up on the same level that has been hyped by Oda for Luffy as a advanced unique technique for over a year, have the technique fail ultimately, and then have Luffy use the same technique and win with it.
Barrier haki is the highest level of Ryou typically used in Wano, so calling it standard is a disservice to it, Luffy didn't even learn it from Rayleigh in his year and a half training for Haki, and Luffy is a Haki genius. Luffy believed he only needed Barrier Haki to hurt Kaido originally, it was a happy bonus that he skipped levels and did freakish things like the collar removal. 9 Lots of Barrier haki coming at a drunk Kaido was enough to give him some superficial wounds.
Imo either Kaido meant it in terms of carrying his will or Oden did really only have barrier haki which is possible.
I'm not seeing any of these samurai calmly dismantling explosive cuffs or slave collars after both feats have been severely hyped up by Oda, they are indicators that Luffy is special.
Barrier haki is the highest level of Ryou typically used in Wano, so calling it standard is a disservice to it, Luffy didn't even learn it from Rayleigh in his year and a half training for Haki, and Luffy is a Haki genius. Luffy believed he only needed Barrier Haki to hurt Kaido originally, it was a happy bonus that he skipped levels and did freakish things like the collar removal. 9 Lots of Barrier haki coming at a drunk Kaido was enough to give him some superficial wounds.
Imo either Kaido meant it in terms of carrying his will or Oden did really only have barrier haki which is possible.
I'm not seeing any of these samurai calmly dismantling explosive cuffs or slave collars after both feats have been severely hyped up by Oda, they are indicators that Luffy is special.
The Scabbards do not have internal destruction haki, Luffy is the only one of the island that has it. This is proven by Raizo needing keys to break Luffy and Kawamatsu out from Udon. He has barrier haki, which is Ryou. Also, the corrected translation does not say Oden Haki, Kaido just says they know Ryou.
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For all we know Oden only had barrier haki, otherwise he could have gotten rid of his chains and broken out of his cell? In any case what Kaido means by this statement is very vague and hard to extrapolate.
Why would Oda introduce this rare special ability, have Luffy specifically hold off from using it on anything other than inanimate objects, only for it to be shown as useless by characters other than him?
Barrier haki is not common, Hyogoro was a bigshot samurai. Let me reiterate Luffy thought Barrier Haki was what he needed to beat Kaido, If 9 people with internal destruction haki sneak attack Kaido with a technique hyped as being far more rare and advanced than barrier haki fail to do significant damage to Kaido how are we as readers supposed to have any faith in this new technique that Luffy seems so proud and confident in?
Why would Oda introduce this rare special ability, have Luffy specifically hold off from using it on anything other than inanimate objects, only for it to be shown as useless by characters other than him?
Barrier haki is not common, Hyogoro was a bigshot samurai. Let me reiterate Luffy thought Barrier Haki was what he needed to beat Kaido, If 9 people with internal destruction haki sneak attack Kaido with a technique hyped as being far more rare and advanced than barrier haki fail to do significant damage to Kaido how are we as readers supposed to have any faith in this new technique that Luffy seems so proud and confident in?
from what I understand the concept of ryou is to cover your blade with the haki in your body
if its done correctly , your sword cuts what you intend to cut and does not when you dont intend to cut it.
mastering this is also what allowed hyogoro create a barrier around his fist.
the process of creating a barrier is
having the haki within your body work as an extension of it. simply put its to allow your haki flow outside your body to your desired target. as hyogoro says here , you must let the haki flow from your fist to the parts that dont need it. here we also visibly see luffy's haki outside his body unlike before.
coa was a bit downplayed when the likes of kinemon and kanjuro coated their weapons in dressrossa. what a twist this chapter was, now folks think they have the highest level of coa which is this . what a turn lmao
I think mastering the barrier is the same level of mastery as having the ability to cut and not to cut with your blade (having your haki flow from inside your body to a desired target). penetration would be a step above that which is what luffy learned at the end of udon.
if its done correctly , your sword cuts what you intend to cut and does not when you dont intend to cut it.
mastering this is also what allowed hyogoro create a barrier around his fist.
the process of creating a barrier is
having the haki within your body work as an extension of it. simply put its to allow your haki flow outside your body to your desired target. as hyogoro says here , you must let the haki flow from your fist to the parts that dont need it. here we also visibly see luffy's haki outside his body unlike before.
coa was a bit downplayed when the likes of kinemon and kanjuro coated their weapons in dressrossa. what a twist this chapter was, now folks think they have the highest level of coa which is this . what a turn lmao
I think mastering the barrier is the same level of mastery as having the ability to cut and not to cut with your blade (having your haki flow from inside your body to a desired target). penetration would be a step above that which is what luffy learned at the end of udon.
