mean...I view from an angle of: If someone maintains their millitary for decades, they might also eventually use it.
For decades invested ressources. At some time it has to cashout or it's a waste of investment.
Would this not mean that Germany, having run down its military for decades, will never have to face a war?🤔
 

AL sama

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I mean...I view from an angle of: If someone maintains their millitary for decades, they might also eventually use it.
For decades invested ressources. At some time it has to cashout or it's a waste of investment.
that attack was legit

if I m being honest Pakistan exist to hate India especially the Pakistani government and military
 
Whatever it is, the world is 1000% fucked from all sides
Whoever drops the nukes doesn't matter anymore
One way or another, all is going to shit
Economy dying
Environment crisis
Refugee crisis
Endless wars

More destroyed homes and refugees just means free real estate for the likes of Trump to DeveLoP and sell to billionaires
Everything is the same shit it has all being down here. Euroguys that are fucked. We cool down here.
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so far India didn't do anything extreme on paper at least
Yes, it all boils down to how Pakistan will deal with this. If they want war, they will spin this an attack.
 
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I mean...I view from an angle of: If someone maintains their millitary for decades, they might also eventually use it.
For decades invested ressources. At some time it has to cashout or it's a waste of investment.
Military investment exists for deterrence.
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Care to explain what i don't understand? I want to understand.
 

Rej

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Military investment exists for deterrence.
I think nowadays that only accounts for big nukes. A bigger deterrence is having the leashes to supress a country economically and evolutionary. For example Uncle Sam's control/management of the most used currency in the world and the access to banks and food + med supply chains.
 
I think nowadays that only accounts for big nukes. A bigger deterrence is having the leashes to supress a country economically and evolutionary. For example Uncle Sam's control/management of the most used currency in the world and the access to banks and food + med supply chains.
No, nukes are irrelevant for conquest. We are entering a new era. Nations will start fighting for resources again. Just look what Trump wants to do. Armies are necessary to avoid being conquered by neighboors. You need boots on the ground to conquer nations. All that military paraphernalia was useless on Afghanistan, btw.
 

Rej

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Would this not mean that Germany, having run down its military for decades, will never have to face a war?🤔
Well, germany has technically been demillitarized. We had our contracts with France, UK, Russia and Uncle Sam.

It's just that we redeemed ourselves and we just slowly decided to make a come back.

But to get back to your point, Germany was actually supposed to not participate in wars anymore. We are just allowed to opperate together with the EU/NATO and under Uncle Sam's supervision.

So yeah, we can technically still be attacked and then we would have a war, but otherwise it won't happen.
 

Rej

Holy Simp
to hinder India's progress even if little
Idk man, this sounds like it will never succeed in the long run and only hinder Pakistan.
India is already quite run down, but the rich ones are actually too influential for the run down to show effect I feel.

No, nukes are irrelevant for conquest. We are entering a new era. Nations will start fighting for resources again. Just look what Trump wants to do. Armies are necessary to avoid being conquered by neighboors. You need boots on the ground to conquer nations. All that military paraphernalia was useless on Afghanistan, btw.
That is literally my point lol.
Idk how you guys approach war and these top war nations. But when I go into discussing nations that have nukes I usually try to consider their economic position and the maintainance costs of their military.

Russias nuke deterrence plans have shown to be ineffective and hell I don't want to imagine the costs to maintain their nuclear arsenal. That is pure insanity. Firing such a rocket costs millions.

As you said India has more feet on the ground and that is why I wonder this war even occurs. The whole panic making of a nuclear escalation is just not making any sense considering the costs. This is just a border and ideology conflict, it's not that we know this is a ressource battle like Ukraine seems to have evolved to be.

It would overall be more efficient for India to attack Pakistan if they would actually be able to obtain new ressources. Else there would be cheaper methods to resolve such a conflict. Easily by freezing and third party border investigations, which both Pakistan and India have been offering constantly.

That is why my other point is, why I wonder this happens, because is there maybe something else to gain for any party? Which is also a very relevant topic imho.
 
Idk man, this sounds like it will never succeed in the long run and only hinder Pakistan.
India is already quite run down, but the rich ones are actually too influential for the run down to show effect I feel.


That is literally my point lol.
Idk how you guys approach war and these top war nations. But when I go into discussing nations that have nukes I usually try to consider their economic position and the maintainance costs of their military.

Russias nuke deterrence plans have shown to be ineffective and hell I don't want to imagine the costs to maintain their nuclear arsenal. That is pure insanity. Firing such a rocket costs millions.

As you said India has more feet on the ground and that is why I wonder this war even occurs. The whole panic making of a nuclear escalation is just not making any sense considering the costs. This is just a border and ideology conflict, it's not that we know this is a ressource battle like Ukraine seems to have evolved to be.

It would overall be more efficient for India to attack Pakistan if they would actually be able to obtain new ressources. Else there would be cheaper methods to resolve such a conflict. Easily by freezing and third party border investigations, which both Pakistan and India have been offering constantly.

That is why my other point is, why I wonder this happens, because is there maybe something else to gain for any party? Which is also a very relevant topic imho.
Isn't there like important/strategic rivers in the Kashmir river? It's more than just borders.
 

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Idk man, this sounds like it will never succeed in the long run and only hinder Pakistan.
India is already quite run down, but the rich ones are actually too influential for the run down to show effect I feel.
Pakistan obviously knows they can't win a war against India but these wars certainly do hinder India in many ways
 

Rej

Holy Simp
Isn't there like important/strategic rivers in the Kashmir river? It's more than just borders.
I also think there is more to it. And why it happens now.
Pakistan obviously knows they can't win a war against India but these wars certainly do hinder India in many ways
maybe, I can def see how a war economy would massively hurt the indian population. So it makes sense for india to actually avoid it or bring it to a conclusion quickly if any war should break out. It would just be in their interest I guess.
 

AL sama

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maybe, I can def see how a war economy would massively hurt the indian population. So it makes sense for india to actually avoid it or bring it to a conclusion quickly if any war should break out. It would just be in their interest I guess.
let me ask you why did India help us in our freedom fight against Pakistan??
 
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