Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1149 Spoilers Discussion

What is worse for the sword nation ?


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Gaban did fine to.be honest.


As a person he is definitely great.

But the problem here is only of we compare his achievement to his fellow legend.

Whitebeard fought against whole marinford and defeated multiple opponent.


Garp fought whole pirate Island and needed shiryus fatal stab and Aokiji to go down.

Rayleigh completely stopped kizaru who let's not kind ourself is the fastest since he is light so not a slow person like Sommer. Then 2 years later stopped Blackbeard who is luffys nemesis.


People still downplay blackbeard but they will realize how ridiculously strong he is when he go all out and also the seriousness of the fact that he backed down when Rayleigh showed up.


Again it's not that gaban did bad its just that compared to his fellow legend what he did wasn't enough.


Oda likely purposely did this as to not have gaban outdo the other legend after all Whitebeard still look way better than any of them.
I mean the guy saw his son get killed with future sight if he tried something. You dont realize how traumatizing that is, so him surrendering is fine. Not sure what people wanted him to do.
 
As you mentioned, Ray had higher position in the crew. Yet people say they stood shoulder to shoulder. So on what were they shoulder to shoulder? On what basis were they equal?

It's almost like it's about their strength or something.

Almost like jimbe saying that while Gaben is literally fighting in front of them is a hint about it being about strength or something...

Nah. Couldn't be. I guess i am wrong.
Yes, it's about strength. Just as Zoro and Sanji are the wings. Just as they are the monster trio. Just as Zoro was portrayed as equal to Luffy.

Shoulder to shoulder means they were close. Basically the monster trio that was far superior to the rest of the crew.
 
There’s no ambiguity, it is literally shown that it means combat wise as both instances they talked about it was right before or during Gaban showing off his combat prowess

this is being hilariously pedantic
So you still can't provide me with this panel your talking about. They were literally talking about samething with arlong. They brought it up to hype his strength along with Jinbei. Basically using jinbei name has a leech. Then we found out Jinbei would beat the breaks off him
 
I hope Sanji unlocking CoC will result in him getting black flames, it'd be a wasted opportunity if Oda didn't go that route.

I wonder if there's any chance the SHs will be able to use the Abyss to teleport to Mary Geoise thanks to Gunko.
 
Zoro stans especially have ratcheted it up on the agenda wars since Wano.

The fact Gaban is such a fucking awesome character and doing so much to impress so quickly is driving them fucking nuts because he is Sanji's parallel and so many of them have begun to realise, in the back of their heads, that they have spent YEARS of their lives so confidently believing and espousing in bullshit that Oda has been taking a hot steaming shit on for like 2-3 years running.

The toxicity is so bad rn because Sanji fans and stans have had so much to celebrate so consistently. That's why the downplaying and disingenuous arguments have gotten so absurd. :suresure: The agenda is dead.
 
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So you still can't provide me with this panel your talking about. They were literally talking about samething with arlong. They brought it up to hype his strength along with Jinbei. Basically using jinbei name has a leech. Then we found out Jinbei would beat the breaks off him
Yet in this instance is the opposite, Gaban literally showed off abilities Ray never had

being pedantic just makes you look more desperate
 
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