Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1149 Spoilers Discussion

What is worse for the sword nation ?


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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Shanks' CoC couldn't knock out a bunch of WB's members when he entered their ship.
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Rayleigh couldn't save the SHs in Sabaody. Had his hands full with Wizaru.
Needed Kuma to save the day.
Bluffed against a character that notoriously runs away when stuff doesn't go accordingly to his plans.
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Shanks coc can disable an admiral from miles away

Debunked

Old rusty Ray who hadn't touched his sword in 20 years
Active Ray made a yonko retreat with his coc

Debunked

Prime gaban lost to loki who is weaker than Shanks 6 years ago
Current gaban got one shot by gunko NO HAKI
 
Because ever since the reveal the clearest indication was the haki trails and sfx, both which Gaban has in this chapter

resorting to VC when characters we know (Zoro) haven’t been revealed as having it is pathetic
explain Jinbei .. explain Ulti.. that argument would work if characters who didn't have CoC didn't show that same sfx.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Issue is Gaban views Loki as superior to him and he gave up against G5 and Zoro, depending on what GunkImu does it doesnt matter that Gaban was taken out early.
This is like when Blackbeard shit his pants and listened to Rayleigh, but then Ray says he would lose. Just a consolation prize, when it's time to make Villains look good he makes them look like shit. Kaidou in his own arc was made to look like a complete bitch for a dead flashback character.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
Shanks coc can disable an admiral from miles away

Debunked

Old rusty Ray who hadn't touched his sword in 20 years
Active Ray made a yonko retreat with his coc

Debunked

Prime gaban lost to loki who is weaker than Shanks 6 years ago
Current gaban got one shot by gunko NO HAKI
If you don't believe Rayleigh's own words that he had to bluff otherwise he would probably straight up lose against Teach, who am I to convince you otherwise?
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Sanji is the butt of a lot of the jokes in Oda's humour, but that has only ever bothered insecure agenda dorks.

Genuine fans of the character find that endearing about him.

The fans that ironically enjoy the agenda bullshitting have been FEASTING Wano, but I would say really since Sanji dipped before WCI.

Oda's turned Sanji into a legit speedster - now arguably the second fastest character in the series - with an insanely cool and versatile skill set that gives him abilities on par with both Paramecia and Zoan DF users without any of the of drawbacks and weaknesses associated with those attributes.

Normally speedsters are landlocked, physically weak, lack stamina, and attack power - the complete opposite applies to Sanji here.

The only shortcoming Sanji has right now is lacking ranged attacks, but I like that as a contrast to Zoro's "fuck everything in that direction" missile capabilities.

To think the Cook could add CoC kicks and exoskeleton and Future Sight to an already stacked set of abilities in flat out insane hype. You have to be on agenda bullshit on some level to downplay someone like that as an equal wing to Zoro.
 
Sanji already said Zoro could cut him down if he were to go berserk ... bruh what are these @$$ arguments

Zoro tried but sanji is still alive aint he?




Also that's a sanji that's lost his mind lol. snaji is at his most powerful when he's passionate and emotional. Him turning to germa means that's gone.

So lanji asked zolo to put down a way weaker version of himself lol
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
If you don't believe Rayleigh's own words that he had to bluff otherwise he would probably straight up lose against Teach, who am I to convince you otherwise?
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Current bb IS A YONKO

PRIME GABAN confirms he couldn't beat loki who is weaker than Shanks 6 YEARS AGO as he became a yonko
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
Sanji is the butt of a lot of the jokes in Oda's humour, but that has only ever bothered insecure agenda dorks.

Genuine fans of the character find that endearing about him.

They fans that ironically enjoy the agenda bullshitting have been FEASTING Wano, but I would say really since Sanji dipped before WCI.

Oda's turned Sanji into a legit speedster - arguably the second faster character in the series - with an insanely cool and versatile skill set that gives him abilities on par with both Paramecia and Zoan DF users without any of the of drawbacks and weaknesses associated with those attributes.

Normally speedsters are landlocked, physically weak, lack stamina, and attack power - the complete opposite applies to Sanji here.

The only shortcoming Sanji has right now is lacking ranged attacks, but I like that as a contrast to Zoro's "fuck everything in that direction" missile capabilities.
Oda's favorite character is Buggy.
This alone should tell you all about Oda's preferences.
 
Shanks coc would have disabled gunko lmfao

This supposed to be Roger's equal right

Whys this bum got one shot unable to save his son ?
Gaban was pissed coming for Gunko, what makes u think Shanks would've had time and the appropriate power to disable Gunko in the exact same situation? I mean, considering Collun is his son as well because thats key here

Also Gaban already stated he feels rusty, Shanks is at his prime. It would be a different scenario from the start, perhaps if Gaban went straight to Gunko and left Sommers to kill Robin and maybe the rest, he would still be fine. Would Shanks do the same tho?
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