Speculations The Straw Hat Pirates now parallel the core/top 10 members of a Yonko crew

#1
Based off of the BMP, RHP, and BP, the Straw Hats now seem to parallel the top 10 members of a Yonko crew, which are essentially the “core” members.

At #1, you have the captain, who is in a league of their own (BM/Kaido/Shanks/Luffy)

At #2-4, you have the top 3 commanders, who are a league above everyone else, but below the captain (Sweet Generals, Lead Performers, Beckman/Roo/Yasopp, and Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe aka the new monster trio)

At #5-10, you have the elite officers of the crews, who are a league below the commanders, but a league above the next best members (BM’s 4 Vets + Snack and Streusen, the Tobi Roppo, Shanks 6 other main men, and the other 6 SHs)
 
#3
Except that they don't have 10 members. It varies in all crews.
Kaidou isn't 10 ,it is 9. Drake isn't one of his ,otherwise you have to count Jinbe and Capone for BM and she goes up to 12 .
As told before BB has 10 without himself.
Wb had 16
Shanks ,we don't know the exact number,but we can assume that Rockstar joined the main group since he was shown along the big guns in that wedding.
 

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#6
I think this is so absurd when you think about Whitebeard pirates too.
They have Whitebeard as a captain, and 16 commanders. (17 core members)

If we put Numbers in the "core" of the beast pirates, that means they had 19 core members (Kaido+3 Calamities+5 Tobi Roppo(X-Drake is out)+10 Numbers).
But if we dont include Numbers, beast pirates just had 9 core crew members.
 
#7
I’m only talking about the “core” members
BB has Titanic Captains... Total of 11...
Shanks has Beckman, Roo, Yasopp, Rockstar and those 6 other guys... Total of 11...
Kaido has Calamities, Tobi Roppo and Numbers... Total of 20...
BM has Sweet Commanders, Peros, Daifuku, Oven, Compote, Amande, Mont, Galette and Opera... Total of 13...
WB has Division Commanders... Total of 17...
 
#8
I think this is so absurd when you think about Whitebeard pirates too.
They have Whitebeard as a captain, and 16 commanders. (17 core members)

If we put Numbers in the "core" of the beast pirates, that means they had 19 core members (Kaido+3 Calamities+5 Tobi Roppo(X-Drake is out)+10 Numbers).
But if we dont include Numbers, beast pirates just had 9 core crew members.
Drake counts. Numbers have been too irrelevant so far
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BB has Titanic Captains... Total of 11...
Shanks has Beckman, Roo, Yasopp, Rockstar and those 6 other guys... Total of 11...
Kaido has Calamities and Tobi Roppo... Total of 10...
BM has Sweet Commanders, Peros, Daifuku, Oven, Compote, Amande, Mont, Galette and Opera... Total of 13...
WB has Division Commanders... Total of 17...
Rockstar is not an important member.

Amande, Mont, Galette, and Opera aren’t that important either
 

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#9
Drake counts. Numbers have been too irrelevant so far
If we put "X-Drake is a Sword member" aside then yes, Drake counts.
So far Numbers is irrelevant, but there is a still a possibility if Numbers might able to put some fights in this arc.
The fact that they helping the war 20 years ago too.
 
#10
Based off of the BMP, RHP, and BP, the Straw Hats now seem to parallel the top 10 members of a Yonko crew, which are essentially the “core” members.

At #1, you have the captain, who is in a league of their own (BM/Kaido/Shanks/Luffy)

At #2-4, you have the top 3 commanders, who are a league above everyone else, but below the captain (Sweet Generals, Lead Performers, Beckman/Roo/Yasopp, and Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe aka the new monster trio)

At #5-10, you have the elite officers of the crews, who are a league below the commanders, but a league above the next best members (BM’s 4 Vets + Snack and Streusen, the Tobi Roppo, Shanks 6 other main men, and the other 6 SHs)
I don't get why everyone forces parellelism on everything. Every Yonko crew is different and unique in their own way.

The Goat Crew was Rocks, but they had a ton of internal issues:
Rox
*Big Mom, WB, and Shiki all in their primes, basically later became Yonkos
*Kaido as an appentice
*Other big names

From what we know of Roger's crew, not as strong as Rocks and maybe even Shiki's, but very loyal and close like Luffys:
*Roger
*Rayleigh
*Scopper
*Oden
*Shanks as appentrice

Whitebeard, very large crew + tons of allies, but no one seems close to Whitebeard in strength:
*16 captains of varying strength including Marco, Ace, Vista, and Jozu
*Blackbeard

Shanks, we hardly know anything other than very high average strength:
*Shanks
*3 commanders Ben Beckman, Yassop, Fat drumstick guy

Big Mom, tons and tons are capable fighters. In terms of quantity x quality, she might be the best:
*Llinlin
*4 commanders: Katakuri, Smoothie, Cracker, Snack
*tons of experienced heavy weights: Daifaku, Oven, Willy Wonka, mini big mom, a bunch of named sons and daughters

Kaido, very top heavy. After calamities, not much out there:
*Kaido
*3 calamities: King, Queen, Jack
*6 flying six (3 of whom are not loyal): Drake(Marines spy), Whos who (forced in), Sasaki (forced in), Black Maria, Paypay, Ulti
*Numbers
*Appo (questionable loyalty)

Blackbeard, 10 commanders, all seeming pretty ruthless and powerful, however loyalty uncertain, similar to rox pirates:
*Blackbeard
*10 commanders

Luffy, very small crew, overall not much pure strength, but lots of utility:
*Luffy
*Zoro
*Jinbei
*Sanji
*skilled non-fighters each having a unique skill like reading poneglypths or nagivating or Pluton level shipbuilding


If you look at the structure, they hardly resemble each other at all. You're digging for 1 for 1 paralellism when it's not there
 
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#11
I don't get why everyone forces parellelism on everything. Every Yonko crew is different and unique in their own way.

The Goat Crew was Rocks, but they had a ton of internal issues:
Rox
*Big Mom, WB, and Shiki all in their primes, basically later became Yonkos
*Kaido as an appentice
*Other big names

From what we know of Roger's crew, not as strong as Rocks and maybe even Shiki's, but very loyal and close like Luffys:
*Roger
*Rayleigh
*Scopper
*Oden
*Shanks as appentrice

Whitebeard, very large crew + tons of allies, but no one seems close to Whitebeard in strength:
*16 captains of varying strength including Marco, Ace, Vista, and Jozu
*Blackbeard

Shanks, we hardly know anything other than very high average strength:
*Shanks
*3 commanders Ben Beckman, Yassop, Fat drumstick guy

Big Mom, tons and tons are capable fighters. In terms of quantity x quality, she might be the best:
*Llinlin
*4 commanders: Katakuri, Smoothie, Cracker, Snack
*tons of experienced heavy weights: Daifaku, Oven, Willy Wonka, mini big mom, a bunch of named sons and daughters

Kaido, very top heavy. After calamities, not much out there:
*Kaido
*3 calamities: King, Queen, Jack
*6 flying six (3 of whom are not loyal): Drake(Marines spy), Whos who (forced in), Sasaki (forced in), Black Maria, Paypay, Ulti
*Numbers
*Appo (questionable loyalty)

Blackbeard, 10 commanders, all seeming pretty ruthless and powerful, however loyalty uncertain, similar to rox pirates:
*Blackbeard
*10 commanders

Luffy, very small crew, overall not much pure strength, but lots of utility:
*Luffy
*Zoro
*Jinbei
*Sanji
*skilled non-fighters each having a unique skill like reading poneglypths or nagivating or Pluton level shipbuilding


If you look at the structure, they hardly resemble each other at all.
The BMP and BP are basically mirror images of each other, in terms of strength rankings.

You got the captain, then 3 guys right below him, then 6 guys right below them, and then you got a few dozen lesser officers aka headliners/ministers, and then there’s an army of fodders
 
#12
The BMP and BP are basically mirror images of each other, in terms of strength rankings.

You got the captain, then 3 guys right below him, then 6 guys right below them, and then you got a few dozen lesser officers aka headliners/ministers, and then there’s an army of fodders
Kaido ~ Big Mom both 4B bounty

Kaido has 3 calamities: Jack, Queen King
Big Mom has 4 SC: Snack, Cracker, Smoothie, Katakuri

Kaido has 6 flying six (half of which aren't loyal, so he really has 3): Black Maria, Paypay, Ulti
If the numbers are below Paypay, I don't see them making much of a difference.

Big Mom has Willy, Wonka, Compte, Daifaku, Oven, Amande, Tamago, Pekoms, possible more experienced fighters. All of these characters can give Sanji a tough fight.


If terms of quantity x quality, Big Mom has Kaido beat by alot. The only thing Kaido has on Big Mom is his calamities are probably stronger than her calamities, given their much higher bounties.

King: unknown bounty, probably higher than Queen
Queen: 1.3B
Jack ~ Katakuri 1B
 
#13
Whitebeard ~ 16 Division Commanders (Marco, Ace, Jozu, and Vista are the top dogs)
Shanks ~ 8 Officers (Lucky Roux and Yasopp were only name dropped because Oda doesn't want to name the new guys)
Kaido ~ 13 Deck Of Cards (Disaster = Top Dogs)
Big Mom ~ 7 Veteran Ministers (Sweet Generals = Top Dogs)
Blackbeard ~ 10 Titanic Captains (Shiryu is definitely a top dog)
Luffy ~ 9 Members (Zoro, Sanji, and Jimbei are top dogs)
 
#14
Kaido ~ Big Mom both 4B bounty

Kaido has 3 calamities: Jack, Queen King
Big Mom has 4 SC: Snack, Cracker, Smoothie, Katakuri

Kaido has 6 flying six (half of which aren't loyal, so he really has 3): Black Maria, Paypay, Ulti
If the numbers are below Paypay, I don't see them making much of a difference.

Big Mom has Willy, Wonka, Compte, Daifaku, Oven, Amande, Tamago, Pekoms, possible more experienced fighters. All of these characters can give Sanji a tough fight.


If terms of quantity x quality, Big Mom has Kaido beat by alot. The only thing Kaido has on Big Mom is his calamities are probably stronger than her calamities, given their much higher bounties.

King: unknown bounty, probably higher than Queen
Queen: 1.3B
Jack ~ Katakuri 1B
Big Mom has 3 Sweet Commanders, not four
 
#16
Well, to be fair the SH pirates is NOT confirmed to have finished from recruiting...

Luffy may recruit more although Wano would be the LAST stop in any new recruitment with that recruitment being completely FLESHED OUT... cause we're already approaching the End of Series
 
#17
Drake counts. Numbers have been too irrelevant so far
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Rockstar is not an important member.

Amande, Mont, Galette, and Opera aren’t that important either
Mont D'Or is very important. He was the one receiving reports of the situation before the tea party and he was kind of organizing the troups for the chase on Germa, the straw hats and Capone's crew.
He also has a DF very useful to Big Mom since he can keep and infinite amount of prisoners inside his books.

OT: I think the straw hats still needs 1 or 2 strong crewmates to match the other Yonko in core number.
Yamato would be perfect for that.
 
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#19
I dislike how this thread ignores the growth of the non M3 Straw Hats. I am sure Franky, Brook, Usopp and Chopper will be Flying 6 level at the end of Wano.
They should be... They'll be taking on Yonko crews, WG top dogs (Marine HQ top officials, CP0, SWORD, SSG), maybe bounty hunters and underworld/private assassins as well from now on...
 
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