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Once Again never said they wouldn’t get it i even believe momo cry baby ass is gonna get it the point is they’re not confirmed yet nor has showed signs of it which means they can’t beat the elders or HK I’m not putting characters over other characters for something that might happen 10 years from now that’s not how scaling works. Especially when this group is calling kaido a fraud when his non upgraded haki looks better than every admirals.
Wait a moment: I am not saying that they are confirmed, because confirmation means basically a statement or some undeniable visual proof (ex: someone fainting). This is not the case yet.
I am saying there are plenty of hints and some situations have been clearly hinted and showed, even though are not confirmed in that sense.
For example, even though he has nothing on paper, to me it's obvious Xebec has CoC, even though we have never seen him doing anything or anyone said he has it: it's the narrative, there are hints related to his position and so it's almost sure he has it even though it's not confirmed.
About the jokes, you know how it works.
Here we can still find someone who push 1 Emperor = All Marine HQ + Shichi "because of Marinesford" (lol), and obv. you can find the jokes about BM or Kaido in return.