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Who’s the biggest fraud here ?


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Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Sanji was never a garbage. He was indeed nerfed by the demand of the situation. And, as expected, it provided fuel to other faction agenda against sanji


But we expect that from them. Its agenda wars.

What we don't expect is our own aligns with them to shit talk sanji :josad:

- frauds and rats amongst us under the leadership of Fraudban Rayan


We need great cleansing :getnappaed:
 
Dude, the nerf thing is irrelevant.
Sanji got out CoA'd.
That's the point.
Sanji was never a CoA master.
Luffy has the MC dna free card.
Zoro is a CoA specialist.
Sanji's CoA is not all that special. But that's bad because CoA is what he needed the most to fight stronger people.
He gets the exoskeleton and voilá, CoA issue fixed. more durability AND it allowed Sanji to increase his own flames power now that he can handle hotter ones.

That's it. Not rocket science.
Yeah Sanjis CoA was 90 percent just to allow him to continuous usage of DJ and a bit for defense.
 
Sanji was never a garbage. He was indeed nerfed by the demand of the situation. And, as expected, it provided fuel to other faction agenda against sanji


But we expect that from them. Its agenda wars.

What we don't expect is our own aligns with them to shit talk sanji :josad:

- frauds and rats amongst us under the leadership of Fraudban Rayan


We need great cleansing :getnappaed:
Zorofoes broke a lot of people's mind with their propaganda. But some of us never stopped believing, we'd be the CoC users of our fanbase if that existed. :stealthblack:
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
Sanji was never a garbage. He was indeed nerfed by the demand of the situation. And, as expected, it provided fuel to other faction agenda against sanji


But we expect that from them. Its agenda wars.

What we don't expect is our own aligns with them to shit talk sanji :josad:

- frauds and rats amongst us under the leadership of Fraudban Rayan


We need great cleansing :getnappaed:
Who gives shit about fandom wars?
:milaugh:
I can rest easy knowing Sanji had the best showing in Egghead against the Seraphims and Venusjuro.
:pepecroc:
I dont need to create excuses for Sanji's lowest era.
I am just enjoying that he's back to where he always belonged and its obly going to get better.
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@Doggo is under Fraud watch now!
 
Dude, the nerf thing is irrelevant.
You're irrelevant.

Sanji got out CoA'd.
You're misremembering the fight and overstating what happened.

Sanji kept kicking with the mfer, don't overreact.

Zoro is a CoA specialist.
Sanji's CoA is not all that special. But that's bad because CoA is what he needed the most to fight stronger people.
The only discernible difference between the two is that Zoro uses CoA Imbuement and Sanji doesn't - for obvious fucking reasons.

Neither of them has CoA Emission or CoA Internal Destruction. Zoro's CoC Infusion seems directly tied to Enma's ability to draw that out.

This is what I mean by accepting the bullshit framings of others.

For years, a segment of the fandom has run with Oda's SBS answer on what they specialise on as limiting only to Sanji, and so many of so-called fans buy into it. Just like you buy into dumb arguments of gaps between them.

Zoro's never pointed out on his less impressive CoO.

Sanji expressed Ifrit as only being possible because of his Armament training.

Save me your bullshit of how big of a fan you are.

He gets the exoskeleton and voilá, CoA issue fixed. more durability AND it allowed Sanji to increase his own flames power now that he can handle hotter ones.

That's it. Not rocket science.
And what about the way Sanji packed up Queen suggests to you his CoA is lacking?

Or the fact he completely outshined everyone in AP against the Seraphims in base?

MOST of you cunts here don't even realise the depths of Sanji's current strength.
Quite a lot, actually. We've not seen the full extent of current Sanji's power and abilities.

Remember, Queen managed to deal a lot of damage to Sanji before his awakening completed because it initially compromised his ability to fight. Once that was completely over and he unlocked Ifrit, Queen got blitzed.






Days later, a fresh Sanji managed to do this to a flame-on S-Shark WITHOUT his Germa abilities.


Putting his performance in stark comparison to his crewmates, Lucci and Kaku.


I have no doubt Luffy and Zoro are capable of matching the feat of a motivated Sanji, but the point I'm is that the choice to allow Sanji to shine here was, again, a deliberate choice by Oda to highlight Sanji's newly acquired strength. This further underlined by his choice to firmly establish a Germa-enhanced Sanji is more than capable of physically dominating Seraphims.


The reason Sanji had the AP to deal with Seraphims is speed, which as it so happens appears to be the only awakening-buff Sanji retains passively.

Speed boosts AP.


While Kizaru will likely never be surpassed, Sanji was already a burgeoning speedster by Whole Cake Island.


His Germa awakening took that a whole other level, and we've not even seen him go invisible again.







Sanji's speed is, by feats, the second fastest in the verse.

It logically follows his speed boosts his AP accordingly.

It probably always has, at least to an extent, because Sanji's AP was impressive well before Haki came into the picture.









Now bear in mind, we've not seen Sanji pushed to his limits in a fight since he's awakened this Germa abilities. We've not seen the full extent of what he's capable of by any measure.

It doesn't help Oda had Sanji Germa for IJ one chapter and not in the other.

 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Who gives shit about fandom wars?
:milaugh:
I can rest easy knowing Sanji had the best showing in Egghead against the Seraphims and Venusjuro.
:pepecroc:
I dont need to create excuses for Sanji's lowest era.
I am just enjoying that he's back to where he always belonged and its obly going to get better.
:pepegg:
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Good to hear that.


But why you keep on saying 'hypetool era"?

Why you think sanji was at the lowest?

Why are you referring to him as hypetool?
 
Talking of Sanji's AP at this point is propaganda.

Speed = weight. That doesn't just apply to Kizaru. Sanji is second fastest in verse.







He's a fucking missile in human form.














CoA and CoC enhances the physical base.

CoC is especially a powerful multiplier.

Y'all don't even know.
 
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Zoro not having ACoA doesn't mean he doesn't have a better CoA than Sanji. That's like saying Sanji's CoO isn't better than Zoro's because he doesn't have FS.

I 100% agree that he got the exoskeleton because he's not a CoA specialist and likely won't get ACoA as a result. So the combination of the exo and his basic CoA is what allows him to get something comparable to ACoA without needing ACoA.

Zoro might develop a technique resembling CoO that he'll combine with basic CoO so he won't ever need FS. Like a samurai technique based on the 5 human senses or whatever.

There's a reason Rayleigh didn't show he was capable of using FS, just like there's a reason Gaban didn't show ACoA.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
Good to hear that.


But why you keep on saying 'hypetool era"?

Why you think sanji was at the lowest?

Why are you referring to him as hypetool?
Hypetooled by Vergo, Doffy, FUCKING DAIFUKU, FREAKING COULDNT DODGE SOME RANDOM YU GUY.
PH and Dressrosa were especially bad because those were the arcs where Law started to steal a lot of the SHs spotlight as well.
Sanji kicks Vergo to the wall. Vergo gets MILDLY irritated at Sanji, goes for him, Sanji gets a crack on his leg (but but but explosion nerf). THey keep fighting, Sanji kicks Vergo again, smoke comes, fight gets interrupted. Later, sanji feels his leg hurt and monologues to himself that things could have gone bad if he had kept fighting Vergo.
Vergo later has actually a bamboo staff that he never pulled against Sanji, and also a full body CoA version where he's at his strongest, which he also didnt pull against Sanji.
Bad signal. The "redemption" is that Vergo was stated as being EXTREMELY powerful in CoA. So it's a given that trading blows with him was always gonna be bad for Sanji. We were in the era of "my haki is better than your haki" fights. There was no deep to it at all.

Dressrosa? Gets complimented by Doffy, doesn't get a single hit in, gets parasyted. The counterattack against BM's ship later is very cool, dont get me wrong, but bad showing against Doffy.

Zou? nothing happened.
WCI? First, I love WCI. It's a great arc. But, being so starved for a decent Sanji 1v1 didnt help me at the time at all. He blitzes Oven once (not a one shot, he just sends oven flying and oven is back up immediately), fails to repel daifuku during the wedding. Okay scene stopping big mom's attack alongside Luffy. During the rescue, well, one could say that fighting almost the entire BM family was nothing anyone could do and he does manage to repel daifuku later above the ships.
But no 1v1.

Wano? Now we are slowly, but surely, going back to track.
- Uses Page One as training dummy.
- Saves the girls from Hawkins and Drake.
- The Black Maria thing, Oda sneakily makes Sanji fodderize BM's male underlings and makes Sanji tank BM's attacks for a long time. Sneak, but actually good shit right there, considering Sanji's inability to pull up his CoA otherwise it would hurt BM.
- Queen fight starts. Sanji has a good show against Queen, but gets surprised and caught by the snake move. Exoskeleton kicks in. Sanji gets a durability boost and some regen. yay. Fight continues, Queen gets hurt, but it's not near enough to take him down. Sanji then combines all his tools and enhances his flames for Ifrit. Queen gets DEMOLISHED from it. Hits 1Billion bounty. Good shit.

Now try to remember how long all of this took.
TEN FUCKING YEARS.
Also dont forget that FI/PH was when Oda went 200% overboard with the pervert gag.
See what I mean?
 
Zoro not having ACoA doesn't mean he doesn't have a better CoA than Sanji. That's like saying Sanji's CoO isn't better than Zoro's because he doesn't have FS.
Better in what sense? Zoro's CoA was better by virtue of having Hardening and Imbuement versus only Hardening.

What evidence is there Zoro's Hardening is stronger than Sanji's?

Zoro channels his Haki through his swords. Sanji uses it on his own body. Logically, if one of had to have stronger Hardening specifically, it would be the martial artist.

In terms of CoO - we don't just have more feats from Sanji, we have more kinds of feats. We've seen Sanji using CoO to sense presences, locate limbs, sense strength, emotions and even lies. We have like for like feats of Sanji detecting what Zoro doesn't.



I 100% agree that he got the exoskeleton because he's not a CoA specialist and likely won't get ACoA as a result. So the combination of the exo and his basic CoA is what allows him to get something comparable to ACoA without needing ACoA.
If the exoskeleton compensates for CoA, why did Sanji need Sanji need to combine for Ifrit?

This "specialist" talking about is complete bunk.

Whatever you understood it to mean is no longer relevant based on current feats.

Zoro might develop a technique resembling CoO that he'll combine with basic CoO so he won't ever need FS. Like a samurai technique based on the 5 human senses or whatever.
We barely see Zoro use CoO.

Sanji used CoA all the fucking time.

There's a reason Rayleigh didn't show he was capable of using FS, just like there's a reason Gaban didn't show ACoA.
You think Gaban, who can use CoC Infusion and lectures Zoro on Haki, doesn't know how to use advanced CoA techniques?

C'mon, dawg.

Now try to remember how long all of this took.
TEN FUCKING YEARS.
Also dont forget that FI/PH was when Oda went 200% overboard with the pervert gag.
See what I mean?
You're having a different discussion.

None of us are going to pretend we weren't unhappy with how Oda used and treat Sanji immediately after the timeskip.
 
Hypetooled by Vergo, Doffy, FUCKING DAIFUKU, FREAKING COULDNT DODGE SOME RANDOM YU GUY.
PH and Dressrosa were especially bad because those were the arcs where Law started to steal a lot of the SHs spotlight as well.
Sanji kicks Vergo to the wall. Vergo gets MILDLY irritated at Sanji, goes for him, Sanji gets a crack on his leg (but but but explosion nerf). THey keep fighting, Sanji kicks Vergo again, smoke comes, fight gets interrupted. Later, sanji feels his leg hurt and monologues to himself that things could have gone bad if he had kept fighting Vergo.
Vergo later has actually a bamboo staff that he never pulled against Sanji, and also a full body CoA version where he's at his strongest, which he also didnt pull against Sanji.
Bad signal. The "redemption" is that Vergo was stated as being EXTREMELY powerful in CoA. So it's a given that trading blows with him was always gonna be bad for Sanji. We were in the era of "my haki is better than your haki" fights. There was no deep to it at all.

Dressrosa? Gets complimented by Doffy, doesn't get a single hit in, gets parasyted. The counterattack against BM's ship later is very cool, dont get me wrong, but bad showing against Doffy.

Zou? nothing happened.
WCI? First, I love WCI. It's a great arc. But, being so starved for a decent Sanji 1v1 didnt help me at the time at all. He blitzes Oven once (not a one shot, he just sends oven flying and oven is back up immediately), fails to repel daifuku during the wedding. Okay scene stopping big mom's attack alongside Luffy. During the rescue, well, one could say that fighting almost the entire BM family was nothing anyone could do and he does manage to repel daifuku later above the ships.
But no 1v1.

Wano? Now we are slowly, but surely, going back to track.
- Uses Page One as training dummy.
- Saves the girls from Hawkins and Drake.
- The Black Maria thing, Oda sneakily makes Sanji fodderize BM's male underlings and makes Sanji tank BM's attacks for a long time. Sneak, but actually good shit right there, considering Sanji's inability to pull up his CoA otherwise it would hurt BM.
- Queen fight starts. Sanji has a good show against Queen, but gets surprised and caught by the snake move. Exoskeleton kicks in. Sanji gets a durability boost and some regen. yay. Fight continues, Queen gets hurt, but it's not near enough to take him down. Sanji then combines all his tools and enhances his flames for Ifrit. Queen gets DEMOLISHED from it. Hits 1Billion bounty. Good shit.

Now try to remember how long all of this took.
TEN FUCKING YEARS.
Also dont forget that FI/PH was when Oda went 200% overboard with the pervert gag.
See what I mean?
What matters now is that hypetool era is over, and Sanji agenda has been in good shape...




 
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