Powers & Abilities Why Zoro turning Enma into a blade blade symbolises surpassing Oden

#41
I see a lot headcanon here.

Facts are swords can have their own qualities and we already know that:

-Shushui is so strong that ate up the flying slashes of the two other swords that Zoro had ( thriller bark).

- Cursed blades that cause the death of the owner.



- Don't remember the name but Zoro had a sword according to him it wants to cut everything/everyone.

(Remember this a manga about a fantasy world)
And as we know each of these gimmicks were mastered by Zoro .
Enma Is just that another sword with a gimmick.

Whatever achievement with Enma Is Zoro own doing not Oden helping cuz he used Enma.
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Nothing logical just headcanon.
Sure thing. "Haki so stronk Blade turns Black" is the key..... :gokulaugh:
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#43
Like I just said in a previous post. It's a constant battle between Enma and User over Haki. Enma tries to absorb it, and the user tries to keep it. That keeps Enma in a constant state of having Haki being poured into it. That's what it means to "Forged" a black blade. Just having extremely strong Haki, isn't forging shit.
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Answer it ?
Is he only making wado black because of kuinas family line whove used that sword ?
Oden had 21 years on panel using his haki on that sword and hit his peak by his own admission hit his peak and couldnt do it. Like tengu said its up to zoro to do it. Not oden
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#46
Like I just said in a previous post. It's a constant battle between Enma and User over Haki. Enma tries to absorb it, and the user tries to keep it. That keeps Enma in a constant state of having Haki being poured into it. That's what it means to "Forged" a black blade. Just having extremely strong Haki, isn't forging shit.
There is no battle, Enma gets nothing. There are manga panels showing it. You cant argue against facts but you still do it... :myman:
Sure thing. "Haki so stronk Blade turns Black" is the key..... :gokulaugh:
Is Zoro having strong Haki an insecurity for those who favor Luffy? They would prefer thousand headcanons than Luffy being worse in anything...
 
#47
Answer it ?
Is he only making wado black because of kuinas family line whove used that sword ?
Oden had 21 years on panel using his haki on that sword and hit his peak by his own admission hit his peak and couldnt do it. Like tengu said its up to zoro to do it. Not oden
Why would it be the same concept? As far as we know Wado has been sitting in a Dojo in Shimotsuki VIllage for the past 50 years, not being used. How is that someone else contributing to turning it black?
 
#49
There is no battle, Enma gets nothing. There are manga panels showing it. You cant argue against facts but you still do it... :myman:

Is Zoro having strong Haki an insecurity for those who favor Luffy? They would prefer thousand headcanons than Luffy being worse in anything...
Zoro can have strong Haki, it doesn't bother me one bit. But it doesn't make a damn lick of sense that just having strong Haki is how you "Forge" a black blade. Forging a weapon is a long and drawn out process. It's not gonna be something as simple and lackluster as "Haki too stronk, blade turn black"
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#50
Zoro can have strong Haki, it doesn't bother me one bit. But it doesn't make a damn lick of sense that just having strong Haki is how you "Forge" a black blade. Forging a weapon is a long and drawn out process. It's not gonna be something as simple and lackluster as "Haki too stronk, blade turn black"
Better than your retarded deduction of odens done most the work despite having more than 2 decades worth of fights and not being able to do it.
Will zoro have more fights with enma and nidai even wado than shanks had with gryphon?
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#52
Zoro can have strong Haki, it doesn't bother me one bit. But it doesn't make a damn lick of sense that just having strong Haki is how you "Forge" a black blade. Forging a weapon is a long and drawn out process. It's not gonna be something as simple and lackluster as "Haki too stronk, blade turn black"
It's not just strong haki, it is better haki than anyone else.
Plenty of people who couldnt do it.
Being better than them is an educated guess for such a rarity as Kokuto.
It is not long and drawn out process. Many battles can mean lots of things.
You dont know if it will be "haki too stronk, blade turn black".
 
#54
Better than your retarded deduction of odens done most the work despite having more than 2 decades worth of fights and not being able to do it.
Will zoro have more fights with enma and nidai even wado than shanks had with gryphon?
It's only retarded to you Zoro wanking battle junkies who constantly need to validate Zoro's strength, so everything he fucking does in the manga MUST be powerlevel related..... :goatasure:
 
#56
I don't see you arguing against those making that proclamation...

So what's your take on turning a Blade Black then?
I think its CoC/will related + something else that I still can't exactly pick .

CoA migth play a role but is not the main factor cuz a lot legends can use it and have top notch CoA too.


So far we have 2 hints.
None in Wano was able to tame able Enma but Oden and zoro mastery with Wado maybe helps.

What kid Oden had that the even adult red scarbads lack ?

I can only think of either his will or CoC.
(Kokutos are more rare than CoC so one needing to be born with CoC can definitely explain its rarity)

The wado point is kinda moot unless something unique is revealed bout it so we can only consider Zoro sword mastery is a factor.


But what else ? Heck idk yet.
Something else to shorten the list of possible individuals able to make a kokuto is needed.
 

Cyrus the Cactus

Mihawk Reigns Supreme
#57
Surprised that everyone is ok with Zoro making Enma black when whose to say that it was Odens own heavy lifting, countless battles and all, vs Zoro who'll get it with what? A couple fights? Haha what a hallow thing. Zoro piggybacking off of someone else's work. GG
Is there any proof that swords retain Haki?

Zoro can have strong Haki, it doesn't bother me one bit. But it doesn't make a damn lick of sense that just having strong Haki is how you "Forge" a black blade. Forging a weapon is a long and drawn out process. It's not gonna be something as simple and lackluster as "Haki too stronk, blade turn black"
Honing your Observation Haki to a point where you can see the future is a long and drawn out process too, right?

Statements like that are meant to hype up the protagonist when they get the ability/tool/achievement in a much shorter time than others. :kayneshrug:
 
#59
Is there any proof that swords retain Haki?



Honing your Observation Haki to a point where you can see the future is a long and drawn out process too, right?

Statements like that are meant to hype up the protagonist when they get the ability/tool/achievement in a much shorter time than others. :kayneshrug:
Swords can be fed devil fruits and be inflicted with curses. So retaining Haki that ones pours into over the course of many years is 100 plausible, and the best explanation that can be given on how to forge a black blade. Especially when a Black Blade literally looks like an Armament Haki coated Sword.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#60
Swords can be fed devil fruits. So retaining Haki that ones pours into over the course of many years is 100 plausible, and the best explanation that can be given on how to forge a black blade. Especially when a Black Blade literally looks like an Armament Haki coated Sword.
If blackblades have haki why didnt monet die when zoro cut her with shusui ?
 
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