Powers & Abilities Why Zoro turning Enma into a blade blade symbolises surpassing Oden
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The way Hitestsu speaks is as if Enma is already close to becoming a Black Blade. From what we see about the Sword, it feeds off the haki of its wielder. Something it must have been doing with Oden for years. So Zoro turning Enma into a black blade would just be him completing what Oden had already been working on for years. So even if he does manage to turn Enma black, it will not mean he's surpassed Oden, as Oden helped with the process of turning Enma black.
If Zoro role was being only the first mate/VC your point is quite valid no doubt.
But Zoro placement goes beyond Rayleigh.
One would need to consider the placement of right hand of the past PK plus the WSS.
A formula like the one used on wb who was the WSM but also an Emperor should be applied I think.
Both push him to be the strongest Emperor and rival to PK.
So the Z hating goons already have their card if Zoro makes Enma black?
" Zoro was just on time to make it black so he didn't surpass oden at all"
Cry me a river please.
" Zoro was just on time to make it black so he didn't surpass oden at all"
Cry me a river please.
Zoro will turn Wado Ichimonji black eventually, which will be of his own merit.
So the Z hating goons already have their card if Zoro makes Enma black?
" Zoro was just on time to make it black so he didn't surpass oden at all"
Cry me a river please.
" Zoro was just on time to make it black so he didn't surpass oden at all"
Cry me a river please.
Zoro should turn Wado )which is as white as snow) black first. As far as we know Wado hasn't seen too many fights aside from the ones Zoro has put it through.
As you say it discharges the user's haki on its own will (unless you tame it) so it's not storing Oden's haki in the sword right now unless we are told otherwise later on.
That's not true. What Gyukkimaru said, was that Shisui was forged through Ryuuma's history of battle.
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That's not true. What Gyukkimaru said, was that Shisui was forged through Ryuuma's history of battle.
Headcanon after headcanon...
Black blades, the symbolical crowns for greatest swordsmen of all times, dont become black because of someone else.
Besides, Enma cant take any haki at all once the user has mastered it. It uses as much Haki as any other sword.
Zoro has already demonstrated that it isnt using any haki at all, go check back couple of chapters.
Candyland headcanon logic, born to be wrong.
Black blades, the symbolical crowns for greatest swordsmen of all times, dont become black because of someone else.
Besides, Enma cant take any haki at all once the user has mastered it. It uses as much Haki as any other sword.
Zoro has already demonstrated that it isnt using any haki at all, go check back couple of chapters.
It's true though. The manga clearly states a sword turns black after it's been in enough battles. Enma is already a veteran weapon plus a magical sword that keeps absorbing haki. Turning it black is a team effort
Zoro should turn Wado )which is as white as snow) black first. As far as we know Wado hasn't seen too many fights aside from the ones Zoro has put it through.
Zoro should turn Wado )which is as white as snow) black first. As far as we know Wado hasn't seen too many fights aside from the ones Zoro has put it through.
Yes, but what did Zoro do? He stopped it from expending his Haki, and was able to pull it back into his body. That tells us that when using Enma it's a constant battle between user and wielder. Enma tries to absorb and expend the Haki, while the user fights to keep their Haki. That means Haki is continuously pouring into Enma at all times while in use.
Headcanon after headcanon...
Black blades, the symbolical crowns for greatest swordsmen of all times, dont become black because of someone else.
Besides, Enma cant take any haki at all once the user has mastered it. It uses as much Haki as any other sword.
Zoro has already demonstrated that it isnt using any haki at all, go check back couple of chapters.
Candyland headcanon logic, born to be wrong.
Black blades, the symbolical crowns for greatest swordsmen of all times, dont become black because of someone else.
Besides, Enma cant take any haki at all once the user has mastered it. It uses as much Haki as any other sword.
Zoro has already demonstrated that it isnt using any haki at all, go check back couple of chapters.
Candyland headcanon logic, born to be wrong.
I see a lot headcanon here.
Facts are swords can have their own qualities and we already know that:
-Shushui is so strong that ate up the flying slashes of the two other swords that Zoro had ( thriller bark).
- Cursed blades that cause the death of the owner.
- Don't remember the name but Zoro had a sword according to him it wants to cut everything/everyone.
(Remember this a manga about a fantasy world)
And as we know each of these gimmicks were mastered by Zoro .
Enma Is just that another sword with a gimmick.
Whatever achievement with Enma Is Zoro own doing not Oden helping cuz he used Enma.
Nothing logical just headcanon.
Facts are swords can have their own qualities and we already know that:
-Shushui is so strong that ate up the flying slashes of the two other swords that Zoro had ( thriller bark).
- Cursed blades that cause the death of the owner.
- Don't remember the name but Zoro had a sword according to him it wants to cut everything/everyone.
(Remember this a manga about a fantasy world)
And as we know each of these gimmicks were mastered by Zoro .
Enma Is just that another sword with a gimmick.
Whatever achievement with Enma Is Zoro own doing not Oden helping cuz he used Enma.
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Nothing logical just headcanon.
So if zoro takes the nidai post wano and turns it black is that because of tengus wall
Like enma will be because of oden ? @Celestial D. Dragon
Like enma will be because of oden ? @Celestial D. Dragon
Like I just said in a previous post. It's a constant battle between Enma and User over Haki. Enma tries to absorb it, and the user tries to keep it. That keeps Enma in a constant state of having Haki being poured into it. That's what it means to "Forged" a black blade. Just having extremely strong Haki, isn't forging shit.
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None of his swords are valid if they become black cuz all were used previously.
So in a sense Oda has decided that the next WSS will not have a black blade made by himself.
Maybe there will be an arc where a blacksmith creates 3 new swords which ultimately will become black thanks to Zoro (only valid option).
So in a sense Oda has decided that the next WSS will not have a black blade made by himself.
Maybe there will be an arc where a blacksmith creates 3 new swords which ultimately will become black thanks to Zoro (only valid option).