Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

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You don’t get it. Sengoku thinks that Ochoku is good enough to be grouped with Shiki, but not good enough to be grouped with the Yonko.

Yonko > Shiki
Jeez let’s see why would Sengoku focus on the groups that the marines have been fighting for two decades instead of the others who have been MIA or dormant for two decades. It’s almost like as Whitebeard said, no one talks about the past anymore and most people don’t understand the impact of these people lmao

Literally doesn’t change canon chapter 0 having Shiki ~ Roger and Garp and Sengoku teaming up to stop Shiki

Shiki > yonko is literally canon lmao
 

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You’re prioritizing an old databook over Sengoku directly putting Shiki below the Yonko in the manga. Lol
It is abundantly clear that during their primes WB, Roger, Shiki were the top 3 pirates, not Big Mom. Lol Big Mom's existence really checkmates you, cause agewise she was definitely in her prime at the same time as those guys.
 
It is abundantly clear that during their primes WB, Roger, Shiki were the top 3 pirates, not Big Mom. Lol Big Mom's existence really checkmates you, cause agewise she was definitely in her prime at the same time as those guys.
Nah there’s nothing but unreliable databook statements putting Shiki that high. I think GV Shiki > GV BM, but Prime BM > Prime Shiki
 
Jeez let’s see why would Sengoku focus on the groups that the marines have been fighting for two decades instead of the others who have been MIA or dormant for two decades. It’s almost like as Whitebeard said, no one talks about the past anymore and most people don’t understand the impact of these people lmao

Literally doesn’t change canon chapter 0 having Shiki ~ Roger and Garp and Sengoku teaming up to stop Shiki

Shiki > yonko is literally canon lmao
Ochoku was an active pirate lol. He even outlived WB
 
Buggy being Yonko is a gag bro
Point being, you need territory, a crew, immense strength, and crewmates who also have immense strength, to become an Emperor.
We don't know if Shiki has any of those besides himself being extremely strong
Why is lihroyu scared of golden wion whiki ? Clown
He needs to prove that Shiki not becoming an Emperor means the Yonko > Shiki so he can say that the Yonko > Mihawk as well and secure his Shanks agenda
 
Point being, you need territory, a crew, immense strength, and crewmates who also have immense strength, to become an Emperor.
We don't know if Shiki has any of those besides himself being extremely strong

He needs to prove that Shiki not becoming an Emperor means the Yonko > Shiki so he can say that the Yonko > Mihawk as well and secure his Shanks agenda
Bro how does Shiki have anything to do with Mihawk lmao. I put Shiki below the Yonko because Sengoku puts him below the Yonko. Simple as that
 
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