Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

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The portrayal in itself is good, but if you pay attention, Roger seems pretty young here. He doesn't even have his trademark mustache.

So while it suggest Roger and Garp were comparable while young, I still think it's heavily implied that in their prime, they weren't :kayneshrug:
lmafo weak cope

Seriously though, massive Roger wank coming soon

Still outperformed by Queen

And Queen even has his devil fruit power in his kit too

brutal
Cryyyy - Shiryu is smoking and chillin =>
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
This might be a reach guys but we could actually finally get Imu revealed at the end of 1157, summoned to finish off Xebec.
40 years ago - Teach was born. Xebec probably left some diary or df book for Teach.

38 years ago - God Valley incident.

Garp and Roger tag teamed to beat Xebec. But I don't think even their combine strength can take down Rocks. Also, they aren't the kind of guys who could kill someone.

So, it's likely Holy knights or Elders or IMU intervened and killed Xebec with some underhand tricks.
 
It's so much worse that he was hit, looks like it just bounced off him with minimal damage. I initially thought Garp avoided it that's how insignificant Roger's attack looked.

I didn't believe the iron garp bs before, thought it was just fodder talk but nah when he defends with haki that shit seems legit. No wonder he was fighting blades and dfs without any weapon.
Roger just punched Garp..
 
It really is interesting that the strongest blade users mainly use them for blunt damage
Like out of Kaido’s top 5 the only one capable of actually cutting and scarring him was oden despite arguably being the weakest

I wonder if any of the Roger or Rocks pirates would be able to scar Kaido

Even in oden’s case enma played a big role in him being able to do it

 

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Ngl, this mogs Laight Lai of the 1000 kicked trees and his dbz powerup nonsense.

And at least you can say Garp did some shit with his powers. Laight Lai would be watching his boys dying and shit without caring, only deciding to ¨go all out¨ when he wants to fuel his own narcissism.


Garp wouldn´t let that pass. Look at his boys all cheering him on(and Genocide ofc)
 
WhiteBeard morality only kicks in when he was going to fight Government slave hunting forces?
Insofar as his piracy is concerned, he's similar to Shanks and Roger in that he's posthumously been shown as mostly a protectorate of the weak. But that also extends to about as far as the length of his arm; if he saw Rocks hurting innocent slaves, particularly orphaned kids, he'd probably find it disagreeable. However if it's within the realm of piracy, against other low lives and crooks, he'd probably not care.

Interestingly about Rocks so far as that, he's not really demonstrated extremely scoundrel behavior. He's kidnapped some royalty sure but lol who cares about them. Arguably the "ugliest" thing he's done was slap Loki in the nuts to get Harald's attention and even that wasn't super serious. So, from Whitebeard's perspective, Rocks hasn't ever really crossed a moral line has he?
 
Roger just punched Garp..
:cr7:

Bro lost his ability to swim just to get a Queen gimmick ability 😭
It will be broken - just wait. Read this meanwhile =>
Suke Suke no Mi is underwhelming

Many people consider suke suke no mi to be one of the most useless devil fruits and its hard to disagree with them. We already saw its weakness when Absalom used it:

On top, the idea of CoO wasnt introduced when Absalom used this fruit. Imagine Absalom fighting someone with basic CoO let alone FS.


Suke Suke No Mi's awakening: Nothingness

It doesnt make sense for an end game opponent to have a useless power. Shiryu believes he got a very nice power for himself =>

There is a theory floating around that Shiryu will awaken his devil fruit and it will turn him into nothingness. The idea originated from Koshiro flashback during Mr. 1 fight where the "ability to cut NOTHING" was mentioned three times (Please check the Stephen Paul's translation, ViZ translation was garbage).


Blackbeard and Suke Suke no mi

The theory of nothingness is cool, but I didnt pay much attention initially. Then some intriguing information came to my attention:

(1) In Ace Novel, Volume 2, Chapter 5, Thatch claims that Blackbeard wants to eat the Suke Suke no Mi. Out of all the fruits in the series, why did Thatch think Teach wants the Suke Suke no Mi?

I dont usually pay attention to novels as they are not written by Oda. For example, this volume was written by Tatsuya Hamazaki. But what makes this interesting is, a member of the Blackbeard pirates eventually gets the Suke Suke no mi. This Ace volume was released five months before chapter 925, where Shiryu shows his suke suke no mi powers. This cant be a coincidence. There is a possibility that Oda passed this information to Tatsuya.

(2) From databook Green (the only databook completely supervised by Oda), Blackbeard was originally named Everything D. Teach

(3) In chapter 577, Blackbeard says, Yami Yami no mi turns everything to nothingness

Connecting all these dots, is it possible Oda originally planned suke suke no mi for Blackbeard where the pirate Everything D. Teach was supposed to turn himself into nothingness? If that is true, then the suke suke no mi has to be a very special fruit that was reserved for the most important antagonist in the series.

Inspiration for "Nothingness": Hokuto No Ken

Hokuto No Ken or the Fist of the North Star is an 80s manga that inspired many famous mangakas. The protagonist Kenshiro is known for his iconic phrase "omae wa mou shindeiru" or "you are already dead". Oda recently paid homage to Hokuto No Ken through Queen =>

This is not the first time Oda referenced Hokuto No Ken. Back in chapter 72 SBS =>


The ultimate technique of Kenshiro is called Musō Tensei. This technique allows the user to achieve a state of "nothingness", impervious to attacks. Kenshiro could harness the techniques of his fallen comrades. He can glide through air and space. It comes from the same principle as Ultra Instinct of Dragon Ball. Musō Tensei is so broken that the only way to counter it was to extremely distort the space and time.

Shiryu turning into nothingness will be another homage to Hokuto No Ken. Imagine Shiryu with abilities similar to Musō Tensei.

How broken Shiryu will be? :finally:

Some tags: @Garp the Fist @Celestial D. Dragon @Bogard @HeroesNZ @Buggy D Clown
Shiryu Downplayers: @ZenZu @Seth
Zenzu's number 1 fan: @Gol D. Roger
Blackbeard gang: @Blackbeard @Erkan12 @Reborn
Real Shiryu cheerleader: @HA001 OF THE RAIN
Fake Shiryu cheerleader: @TheAncientCenturion
 
Janitoryu upscale here is the funniest shit to me, blindside an old legend who had his guard down and calling that a feat that surpasses Dodger

Then again Gunko kinda did the same thing except without haki so can’t really downplay that feat :risisweat: (hers is more impressive tho)
The Shiryu agenda is one of the goofiest of all time it’s awesome
 
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