Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

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I will say however, there is legitimately a decent chance “haki wizardry” is real and Roger(and probably Shanks) do have some power beyond mere swordsmanship.

I only say this because both Whitebeard and now Xebec seem to have had legendary busted DFs on top of their already top tier advanced haki and combat skills.

If Roger was even comparable to WB, then he must have had something to rival the gura. And coating his blade in haki wasn’t it, because WB could do that too.

It is very odd how a storm supposedly destroyed Shiki’s crew while saving Roger.

That said. This is all speculation and from everything we have seen thus far, Mihawk has better swordsmanship than Shanks and probably Roger too.
xebec has a df??
 
Why though. Garp going toe to toe with Roger was always common knowledge. Garp is the father of Dragon and grandfather of Luffy after all, one being the protagonist and most significant figure and the other one being close as the Revo leader. Plus, they were both young, so Roger's growth rate may or may not had been slightly better, similar to Luffy outgrowing Smoker (an extreme analogy, because prime Garp in fact was close to Roger).

Remember, old Garp was walking through Aokiji's fruit related powers and smacking him around, until Aokiji started to go into CqC against said old Garp after having his abdomen stabbed. Same old Garp said he is going to kill Sakazuki.

If we wanna compare feats, Sakazuki:
- Was stalled by Vista and Marco for a prolonged time while being bloodlusted
- Couldn't stop a heavily wounded/damaged and brain dead Kuma while spamming his attacks, unable to properly aim for Kuma's face

All trolling aside, great pirate > admiral.
I remember when you were making threads specifically to shit on Prime Garp for training and struggling against Chinjao, the ragebaiting simply won't work. You don't want me to post the receipts:risisure:
 
He didn’t fold, he apologized to his multiple decades old friend. None of this changes that Sakazuki and Kuzan are portrayed well beyond the admirals.
lol sure man as of now, but we still have to see kizaru, fuji, ryo go all out :milaugh: I am not sure why you do not see it. A conflicted kizaru who still completed his mission had enough speed to feed luffy and revive the guy without being seen... If this guy can move that fast when he is conflicted what do you honestly expect when he is locked in, has no doubt, actually going for the kills with his lasers?:choppawhat: Kizaru was clearly was missing vegapunk at times we saw his accuracy at marineford when he was locked in and snipe the key at marineford.Why in the heck would i doubt that he too is equals with sakazuki/kuzan going all out.






Kizaru just like akainu stopped wb weapon... are you gonna sit here and say aokiji could not do the same ??? Of course not:milaugh:

Could i have reasoned akainu and kizaru stopped the blade but aokiji did not stop it therefore they are the stronger admirals? sure but thats absolutely false.

Oda gave us a glimpse of kizaru for a reason... he is Him and so with the other two admirals... the navy being far stronger under akainu reign means the the three admirals are just as strong if not stronger than the original 3.
 
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