Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

This right here is where all my Jewish loved ones lose me - they have zero sympathy for blameless civilians, seemingly no awareness that this kind of fearmongering is EXACTLY what led to the Holocaust in the first place, and absolutely no consideration of the idea that they might be falling prey to the same dehumanizations tactics as Germans did in the late 1930s. We’re talking about regular fucking people who have committed no known crimes, certainly none that would justify wiping out entire generations of their families, and Zionists wanna be the executioner by way of skipping judge and jury…they’ve never even bothered hiding their bloodlust because the world has historically sided with Israel, but it’s even more heinous to keep talking/thinking that way when most nations are rightfully turning on them.

The problem is that this is sentence is half true. People are indeed supporting Hamas in their action of resistance and they indeed want Israel to go. But this does not make them guilty and it does not justify killing them. That's the fallacious step Zionists are taking. They have been raised in a colonial state with the dehumanization of Palestinian as a rule. They will not understand a nation resisting and calling for the deletion of their state.

Israel is a colonial state, it became an apartheid state and it's now a genocidal and criminal state as well. People are RIGHT when they support the resistance and the destruction against such entity.

Israel must go. But what Zionists do not understand is that the end of Israel does not mean the end of its population. A two state solution would equate to a situation where Palestinians are kept in enclaves, and it would NEVER be possible for them to take back what is theirs. At the same time, a two state solutions would legitimate Israel in its colonial status and it would prevent anyone from destroying the appartheid situation.

The solution is ONE STATE. A state with both Palestinians and the current Israelians under a neutral guidance and with representatives of both nations. What we now is that partitions rarily work in history but cooperations do. The reason is simple, material condition are what drive conflict in history. So if there is no reason to make wars, there will be no war to fight no matter how bad they hate eachothers.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

I think it's funny how people are such straight liars/shills they're still arguing over evil.

Yes, MAGA, Zionist Israel, and Putin's Russia are EVIL, and their cronies all over the place, including the internet, are evil too.

They are not hiding it.

They are proud.

They are proud they are evil.

They openly profit off of murdering children through war and using war to sexually traffic children, like Hillary cheering on Gaddafi's death, and then helping to turn Libya into a sex trafficking state.

They write messages of war on the missiles they use to kill starving poor children.

They are evil.

They cheer Trump grabbing women by the pussy and pretend they hate rape, and ignore all the pictures of him sexualizing his own daughter.

Melania met Trump through Epstein, and the cultists that support mutilating baby wang and sucking the blood out it (guess where kids get Herpes from? spend their time... bullying gay children.

Evil fake trash.

If you defend this crap, or cover it up, you're supporting a criminal sex/murder ring.

They aren't hiding it. DC, Tel Aviv, Moscow, London, and the Vatican have been VERY open about murdering groups they hate for a long time. The Hollywood/DC elite are VERY open about loving child-rape. Their crimes are FACTS, not opinions.

The mods that censor truth in this thread deserve every headache Logiko's ever given them. Logiko drives me fucking insane sometimes by being stubborn and just... changing the definitions of words at will, and is one of the only people on here as nuts as I am

...but at least Logiko has guts and sticks to what he believes, unlike a bunch of doofuses pretending their forum hates Nazism, when you get censored for calling out actual child-******* Nazis.

Logiko was right about Trump, LOL.

Mad that the facts don't care about your feelings???

LOGIKO WAS RIGHT ABOUT TRUMP, AND YA'LL WERE WRONG, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

That's so fucking sad/funny

Everyone censoring and shilling for these child-murderers:

Get laughed at by Black Women for acting like you have morality, when all you do is conform to rules/authority.

Bad jokes

 

[AL sama]

I think it's funny how people are such straight liars/shills they're still arguing over evil.

Yes, MAGA, Zionist Israel, and Putin's Russia are EVIL, and their cronies all over the place, including the internet, are evil too.

They are not hiding it.

They are proud.

They are proud they are evil.

They openly profit off of murdering children through war and using war to sexually traffic children, like Hillary cheering on Gaddafi's death, and then helping to turn Libya into a sex trafficking state.

They write messages of war on the missiles they use to kill starving poor children.

They are evil.

They cheer Trump grabbing women by the pussy and pretend they hate rape, and ignore all the pictures of him sexualizing his own daughter.

Melania met Trump through Epstein, and the cultists that support mutilating baby wang and sucking the blood out it (guess where kids get Herpes from? spend their time... bullying gay children.

Evil fake trash.

If you defend this crap, or cover it up, you're supporting a criminal sex/murder ring.

They aren't hiding it. DC, Tel Aviv, Moscow, London, and the Vatican have been VERY open about murdering groups they hate for a long time. The Hollywood/DC elite are VERY open about loving child-rape. Their crimes are FACTS, not opinions.

The mods that censor truth in this thread deserve every headache Logiko's ever given them. Logiko drives me fucking insane sometimes by being stubborn and just... changing the definitions of words at will, and is one of the only people on here as nuts as I am

...but at least Logiko has guts and sticks to what he believes, unlike a bunch of doofuses pretending their forum hates Nazism, when you get censored for calling out actual child-******* Nazis.

Logiko was right about Trump, LOL.

Mad that the facts don't care about your feelings???

LOGIKO WAS RIGHT ABOUT TRUMP, AND YA'LL WERE WRONG, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

That's so fucking sad/funny

Everyone censoring and shilling for these child-murderers:

Get laughed at by Black Women for acting like you have morality, when all you do is conform to rules/authority.

Bad jokes

is it really that hard for you to call me out by name??

you know I won't ban you for calling me out

also we don't censor truth

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

is it really that hard for you to call me out by name??

you know I won't ban you for calling me out

also we don't censor truth

Censorship via rules that suck up to authority is a problem I have with internet moderation in general. I felt like calling you out specifically when I hate reddit for this shit 1000x more was dumb. God look at what Twitter became. Bleh.

I have no ability to determine it's you censoring me from here without asking around. I can GUESS, sure, but it would be really fucking stupid to call you out in a giant post, just to find out it was another Mod who took my status down. I've also seen what happens when users here try to find out what Mod took their stuff down (nothing worthwhile), and I have no interest doing so and asking if it was you.

No point in tagging you, knew you were going to see it anyway.

Also, no point in tagging you because you are stubborn as hell, I'm done trying to change your mind, it's a waste of both our times. I'm calling out the entire system, blaming some random dude like you isn't going to fix shit.

I'm trying to work on being just as angry and done with this this lying World Government's international child murder and child rape as possible (thanks for telling me I'm too hateful, it tripled my hatred for the cults that told me I should treat Arab Semites like Anne Frank, and live stream themselves murdering kids), without putting in toxic crap that will get my posts nerfed. How am I doing?

 

[Uncle Van]

I think it's funny how people are such straight liars/shills they're still arguing over evil.

Yes, MAGA, Zionist Israel, and Putin's Russia are EVIL, and their cronies all over the place, including the internet, are evil too.

They are not hiding it.

They are proud.

They are proud they are evil.

They openly profit off of murdering children through war and using war to sexually traffic children, like Hillary cheering on Gaddafi's death, and then helping to turn Libya into a sex trafficking state.

They write messages of war on the missiles they use to kill starving poor children.

They are evil.

They cheer Trump grabbing women by the pussy and pretend they hate rape, and ignore all the pictures of him sexualizing his own daughter.

Melania met Trump through Epstein, and the cultists that support mutilating baby wang and sucking the blood out it (guess where kids get Herpes from? spend their time... bullying gay children.

Evil fake trash.

If you defend this crap, or cover it up, you're supporting a criminal sex/murder ring.

They aren't hiding it. DC, Tel Aviv, Moscow, London, and the Vatican have been VERY open about murdering groups they hate for a long time. The Hollywood/DC elite are VERY open about loving child-rape. Their crimes are FACTS, not opinions.

The mods that censor truth in this thread deserve every headache Logiko's ever given them. Logiko drives me fucking insane sometimes by being stubborn and just... changing the definitions of words at will, and is one of the only people on here as nuts as I am

...but at least Logiko has guts and sticks to what he believes, unlike a bunch of doofuses pretending their forum hates Nazism, when you get censored for calling out actual child-******* Nazis.

Logiko was right about Trump, LOL.

Mad that the facts don't care about your feelings???

LOGIKO WAS RIGHT ABOUT TRUMP, AND YA'LL WERE WRONG, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

That's so fucking sad/funny

Everyone censoring and shilling for these child-murderers:

Get laughed at by Black Women for acting like you have morality, when all you do is conform to rules/authority.

Bad jokes

I was right about Trump too. So was Toby and JDB. Where's our cookies?

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

I was right about Trump too. So was Toby and JDB. Where's our cookies?

You're 100% correct.

Giant cookies for everyone who called this shit out (especially those who did it way better than some clowns like me)

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

You're 100% correct.

Giant cookies for everyone who called this shit out (especially those who did it way better than some clowns like me)

Dont worry dude, those Trump and Elon defenders or worse even, their worshippers here there and everywhere, probably still think Elon is "not a Nazi" either btw (hes just doing a "Roman Salute" hurr durr). Nor that he's just as much of a pedo as these other scum too, as he's been caught out before.

Trump wanted to date his own daughter too, he said it loudly and proudly. They're all scum, not just the right but on the left too. all the higher ups, the "elites". Different sides of the same shitty, godforsaken coin.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Wow this seems to be real

https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...film-instax-mini-90-nachrichtenfoto/620364178

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Wow this seems to be real

https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...film-instax-mini-90-nachrichtenfoto/620364178

My heart dropped when I saw her face in this interview. Just the way she looks at the bed.

I used to hate Ivanka, but I don't at all anymore.

She never had a childhood, she was Trumpstein's pet.

When I was a kid I was so stupid I thought the elite wouldn't do it to their own children. Somehow I was an ever bigger clown back then.

Dont worry dude, those Trump and Elon defendersr worse even worshippers here there and everywhere, probably still think Elon is "not a Nazi" either btw (hes just doing a "Roman Salute" hurr durr). Nor that he's just as much of a pedo as these other scum too, as he's been caught out before.

Trump wanted to date his own daughter too, he said it loudly and proudly. They're all scum, not just the right but on the left too. all the higher ups, the "elites". Different sides of the same shitty, godforsaken coin.

The Romans? You mean... the people who nailed all those Jews to crucifixes???

Nazism is just a continuation of Roman Cults in the first place, Musk knew 100% what he was doing with that.

Yep. One Party, with the illusion of two choices.

The truth will hurt, like any good medicine, but, it will set us free.

 

[Finalbeta]

I advocate for equal partition of resources among society, special benefits and cares for those suffering from physical and mental conditions impairing their ability to be productive and negatively affecting their state of living compared to others.

Education putting human rights, respect for the others and our planet as a whole, principles of equality and inclusion at its core, but also strongly focused on disciplines that can form for a job to have civilization progress and also explore the creativity of the human mind, encompassing both a human component and a technological one. The technological component must assist humans, never become a burden or replace them entirely.

Punishment in case of misconduct must be formative and not based on vendetta and still comply with human rights.

A less intellectually demanding job is not less important than a more demanding one to have a society function as long as such job is necessary for the society to effectively function.

Passion and competitiveness must be fueled as they are crucial to be productive but must be done in a healthy system that is not based on capitalistic gains and getting on top of a hierarchy to have others placed down with a wrong sense of deserving the wealth and be more important than others/do more importantly than them, rather the genuine will to help our fellow society grow stonger while being just a drop of water in the ocean, yet still living a fulfilling, human rich life when possible.

The correct functioning of such society supervised by a large body making sure that its smooth flow is sustained, but not overtly repressive, as a correct education and assistance will make that unnecessary in the first place, and violence should be categorized as a sin.

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

The Romans? You mean... the people who nailed all those Jews to crucifixes???

Nazism is just a continuation of Roman Cults in the first place, Musk knew 100% what he was doing with that.

Yep. One Party, with the illusion of two choices.

The truth will hurt, like any good medicine, but, it will set us free.

Yeah absolutely great point. Fallout New Vegas even satirised Roman worship but the chuds completely missed it as per usual and called the game "non-political" and "not woke" to this day still UNIRONICALLY LMFAO. LITERALLY MANCHILD FASCISTS ARE OBLIVIOUS = LMFAO.

Do they keep forgetting what happened to the "Great Roman Empire" and how America is blatantly apeing that, even deliberately with its own "modern day Nero" playing his figurative fiddle as the country slowly burns down?

History never repeats itself but it certainly fucking rhymes harder than Eminem and Dr Seuss ever could.

Elon was getting chummy with the far right German party for a reason. There's been other telltale signs too.

The same kind of people who would constantly say "its just a joke" until it gets normalised/ignored/accepted eventually, like stockholm syndrome.....Ah Capitulation that was the word I meant too.

Dudes be "hiding their power levels" after all. If its "just a joke" why do they get so defensive when called out on it and why are they so overwhelmingly commited to the "same jokes"?

Same kind of people who will tell you the Titanic is not sinking as the boat tilts almost vertically into the ocean and water floods it rapidly, taking out entire decks with oceanic fury. Huh now I think about it, its kinda funny how Whitebeard and then later Blackbeard can tilt the entire ocean in the same way the Titanic was when it sank and Blackbeard has the Titanic Captains and the walking iceberg himself Kuzan on the crew. You're so slick Oda lol.

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Trump doesn't deserve Ivanka but he does deserve some Ivankov, to turn him into a woman and let "him" be "grabbed by the pussy" to see how "he" would like it.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Wait, why are we bragging about seeing through Donnie’s decades-long con job?? He’s been thoroughly documented as a racist and sexual deviant since the fucking 1970s, only people stupid enough to think The Apprentice was a documentary instead of highly crafted propaganda couldn’t have anticipated what we’ve seen the last ten years

 

[Uncle Van]

I'll just say that one of the reasons the US is in the situation it is now, is because progressives fucking suck at organizing......

Wait, why are we bragging about seeing through Donnie’s decades-long con job?? He’s been thoroughly documented as a racist and sexual deviant since the fucking 1970s, only people stupid enough to think The Apprentice was a documentary instead of highly crafted propaganda couldn’t have anticipated what we’ve seen the last ten years

That's why I demanded cookies for us if it was something to brag about lol. It's like bragging about being right that a republican doesn't follow traditional family values.

 

[Logiko]

I was right about Trump too. So was Toby and JDB. Where's our cookies?

Remind me,

Who said that I was fear mongering about the rise of fascism when I warn you guyz a year in advance to be scared of the consequences of a Trump election and to start fighting ?

Who trashed me for being a guy who "does not understand leftism" ?

Who ignored all my warnings, told me that I was not a real leftist, laughed at my attempts to stop reactionnaries on this forum and attacked me when I called out Trump's voters for their hypocrisy ?

I advocate for equal partition of resources among society, special benefits and cares for those suffering from physical and mental conditions impairing their ability to be productive and negatively affecting their state of living compared to others.

Education putting human rights, respect for the others and our planet as a whole, principles of equality and inclusion at its core, but also strongly focused on disciplines that can form for a job to have civilization progress and also explore the creativity of the human mind, encompassing both a human component and a technological one. The technological component must assist humans, never become a burden or replace them entirely.

Punishment in case of misconduct must be formative and not based on vendetta and still comply with human rights.

A less intellectually demanding job is not less important than a more demanding one to have a society function as long as such job is necessary for the society to effectively function.

Passion and competitiveness must be fueled as they are crucial to be productive but must be done in a healthy system that is not based on capitalistic gains and getting on top of a hierarchy to have others placed down with a wrong sense of deserving the wealth and be more important than others/do more importantly than them, rather the genuine will to help our fellow society grow stonger while being just a drop of water in the ocean, yet still living a fulfilling, human rich life when possible.

The correct functioning of such society supervised by a large body making sure that its smooth flow is sustained, but not overtly repressive, as a correct education and assistance will make that unnecessary in the first place, and violence should be categorized as a sin.

This would be a nice first step.

Wait, why are we bragging about seeing through Donnie’s decades-long con job?? He’s been thoroughly documented as a racist and sexual deviant since the fucking 1970s, only people stupid enough to think The Apprentice was a documentary instead of highly crafted propaganda couldn’t have anticipated what we’ve seen the last ten years

Mainly because I had to force my way out in regards to my failure of trying to warn people about the rise of Fascism and the fact that my arguments were not seen as credible enough to push everyone on this section to start to be angry and scared enough to push the team to make real structural changes in preventing any kind of strong reactionnarism from developping on this forum ever.

It's a kind of "I told you so you and you did nothing" situation.

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Understanding the danger of fascism and speaking about it without doing anything to prevent it from spreading in marginal or social spaces, IRL or virtual, is purely useless.

It's a performative behavior.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Who said that I was fear mongering about the rise of fascism when I warn you guyz a year in advance to be scared of the consequences of a Trump election and to start fighting ?

Lol my favourite mod AL sama said it won't be that bad and that people who are actually scared of what will happen are overreacting

Also remember @CoCy bunny saying Trump might be a good guy at heart with good intentions

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Damn.

 

[Logiko]

Lol my favourite mod AL sama said it won't be that bad and that people who are actually scared of what will happen are overreacting

Also remember @CoCy bunny saying Trump might be a good guy at heart with good intentions

People saw the first 4 years of Trump and thought it would repeat the same stuff. I remember SPECIFICALLY warning everyone that it was just a training ground, a way for him to understand the system and overturn it and that what would happen next would be the high level of hell.

In my absence:

- Concentration camps
- City seizings
- Creation of a fascist milicia
- Army in two cities
- Multiple fundamental institutions destroyed
- Social services in DANGER
- Nonsensical economic logistic
- Scientific destruction and death that came with it
- A war
- Clear support to a genocide
- Multiple fascistic laws

People need to understand that it's just the beginning! I was UNDERESTIMATING him when I was called a fear monger. So we need to react everywhere! Here included. This means stopping reactionnaries from spreading their rethoric.

One can't tell me now that they understand the danger of fascism while doing nothing to prevent it from spreading here.

 

[Finalbeta]

People saw the first 4 years of Trump and thought it would repeat the same stuff. I remember SPECIFICALLY warning everyone that it was just a training ground, a way for him to understand the system and overturn it and that what would happen next would be the high level of hell.

In my absence:

- Concentration camps
- City seizings
- Creation of a fascist milicia
- Army in two cities
- Multiple fundamental institutions destroyed
- Social services in DANGER
- Nonsensical economic logistic
- Scientific destruction and death that came with it
- A war
- Clear support to a genocide
- Multiple fascistic laws

People need to understand that it's just the beginning! I was UNDERESTIMATING him when I was called a fear monger. So we need to react everywhere! Here included. This means stopping reactionnaries from spreading their rethoric.

One can't tell me now that they understand the danger of fascism while doing nothing to prevent it from spreading here.

If Trump spent some time in Gaza he would start to understand how it feels to have nothing to eat, traveling kilometers everyday while lacking the strenght to do so in the hope of obtaining a little flour with a serious risk of being sprayed with bullets by the IDF and other terrorist groups hired by Israel, constant fear of being bombed and catching diseases that could prove fatal due to the inhuman conditions, fighting even for water and surely not clean water as Israel destroyed desalination plants and pipelines, not to mention its pollution from sewage and chemicals. Having nowhere to properly sleep, no house, no basic commodities.

Instead he keeps funding and supporting all of this. And unfortunately the Democratic Party did that too, but with the difference that if the rest of the world woke up the Democratic Party would have been more receptive of that long term, to maintain a more human image of USA for whatever it's left of it, Trump will never care instead. Unfortunately the penetration of Israel into both political parties, in both cases, would not have resulted in significant shifts in policy, so a true revolution is required, from the bottom, but way more resounding than simply showing criticism and contempt for Israel and Zionists as well as support for Palestinians.

 

[Reborn]

I do understand the Epstein files issue but USA is heading towards a bigger crisis....

Multiple studies have predicted that in upcoming few quarters USA will see

• Drop in GDP
• Increase in unemployment rate
• Inflation
• Decline in wages and disposable income which means dip in savings and thus lower investment
• Trade deals getting scrapped
• Whatever revenue us will earn from tariffs would get offset by higher GDP loss
• And, increase in overall debt

This won't impact just a section of US society but everyone


A report highlighted that there is significant erosion of trust amongst US allies including European nations and strategic recalibration by USA allies is gradually rising

And, to make it worse, trump is accelerating "Post -American World " order with multiple blocs rising and trading in local currencies more and more - and we all know what this means


You people have much bigger concern right now

 

[AL sama]

Censorship via rules that suck up to authority is a problem I have with internet moderation in general. I felt like calling you out specifically when I hate reddit for this shit 1000x more was dumb. God look at what Twitter became. Bleh.

I have no ability to determine it's you censoring me from here without asking around. I can GUESS, sure, but it would be really fucking stupid to call you out in a giant post, just to find out it was another Mod who took my status down. I've also seen what happens when users here try to find out what Mod took their stuff down (nothing worthwhile), and I have no interest doing so and asking if it was you.

No point in tagging you, knew you were going to see it anyway.

Also, no point in tagging you because you are stubborn as hell, I'm done trying to change your mind, it's a waste of both our times. I'm calling out the entire system, blaming some random dude like you isn't going to fix shit.

I'm trying to work on being just as angry and done with this this lying World Government's international child murder and child rape as possible (thanks for telling me I'm too hateful, it tripled my hatred for the cults that told me I should treat Arab Semites like Anne Frank, and live stream themselves murdering kids), without putting in toxic crap that will get my posts nerfed. How am I doing?

stay away from discussing politics it's not good for your health