Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1158 Spoilers Discussion

Is Harald above the OG Yonkou's?


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so that clash is about the same strength and harald and xebec's, because it was a very small island
Nope. The island Roger and Whitebeard were on was all the territory there was and Roger and Whitebeard completely affected it and then even beyond it, as they shook the seas. Even if their Haki clash had a radius of 10km as opposed to Harald's and Xebec's 5km, with nothing beyond the island than sea, there would be no one to be knocked out.

So yes, if Harald's and Xebec's clash was more powerful, there would be no reason for Oda not to draw some sky split as fan service. Could be Oda simply didn't care, people can put Harald's and Xebec's Haki in the same ballpark if they wish, but putting it even above what the Yonko and Roger showed, what is the basis for this?
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
If Xebec's and Harald's clash was more powerful, Oda would've highlighted it in another way, which included environmental influence that surpasses what splitting the skies did.
He quite literally already did, with the 5km radius everyone was wiped out feat, he gave a whole ass narrator breakdown of their clash.
 
He's above Shanks and Issho yet he doesn't even have Conq Haki :crazwhat:
Imagine if he DID have it
Dude might be above Xebec then
Who cares about hypotheticals?

If you wrote one piece, Mihawk would act like a COC user and not be scared of Vice admirals and work for Buggy, but you don't

if @MonochromeYoru wrote One Piece, Law would not be hanging out at slave auctions for no reason, but he doesn't

If @Shiroyru wrote One Piece, Shanks mom would be joyboy's descendant or some shit. I actually don't think he needs to write a whole manga for that. Just a hentai
 
Who cares about hypotheticals?

If you wrote one piece, Mihawk would act like a COC user and not be scared of Vice admirals and work for Buggy, but you don't

if @MonochromeYoru wrote One Piece, Law would not be hanging out at slave auctions for no reason, but he doesn't

If @Shiroyru wrote One Piece, Shanks mom would be joyboy's descendant or some shit. I actually don't think he needs to write a whole manga for that. Just a hentai
How is it a hypothetical when it's hinted multiple times he has it?
Do you need Oda to spell everything out for you? Because I'm starting to feel like you wouldn't know how to wipe your own ass cheeks if someone never told you to
 
He quite literally already did, with the 5km radius everyone was wiped out feat, he gave a whole ass narrator breakdown of their clash.
How does that put their clash above Roger's and Whitebeard's? Roger's and Whitebeard's clash encompassed the entire island and shook the island beyond it, with people at the edge of the island being propelled through the air. You may say the island is small, but Oda's scale was always off the charts, for example with Zou having a confirmed radius of 5km as well despite not really looking vast visually.
 
How is it a hypothetical when it's hinted multiple times he has it?
Do you need Oda to spell everything out for you? Because I'm starting to feel like you wouldn't know how to wipe your own ass cheeks if someone never told you to
It hasn't been hinted that he has it

Zoro having it doesn't mean Mihawk will, it simply means Zoro will surpass Mihawk. And Mihawk wants that to happen, which isn't kingly
 
Who cares about hypotheticals?

If you wrote one piece, Mihawk would act like a COC user and not be scared of Vice admirals and work for Buggy, but you don't

if @MonochromeYoru wrote One Piece, Law would not be hanging out at slave auctions for no reason, but he doesn't

If @Shiroyru wrote One Piece, Shanks mom would be joyboy's descendant or some shit. I actually don't think he needs to write a whole manga for that. Just a hentai
If Oda wrote One Piece, Shanks’s mom would be Joyboy’s descendant
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Xebec's and Harald's Haki was even stronger than that? Fine, display it as sky splitting and then some, with Oda narrating the clash in a way to highlight how it was unparalleled by our current standards/knowledge. Rather than the clash just having black lightning emitting.
Oda hyped Xebec and Harald’s Reverie clash harder than he hyped any other Haki clash in the history of this manga, you just chose to ignore it because you don’t understand the difference between a narrative tool and a power level tool.

Rival Man and Subordinate Beard never even split the sky lmfao.
 
Who cares about hypotheticals?

If you wrote one piece, Mihawk would act like a COC user and not be scared of Vice admirals and work for Buggy, but you don't

if @MonochromeYoru wrote One Piece, Law would not be hanging out at slave auctions for no reason, but he doesn't

If @Shiroyru wrote One Piece, Shanks mom would be joyboy's descendant or some shit. I actually don't think he needs to write a whole manga for that. Just a hentai
If Logiko Wrote it carrot would be the mc
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
How does that put their clash above Roger's and Whitebeard's? Roger's and Whitebeard's clash encompassed the entire island and shook the island beyond it, with people at the edge of the island being propelled through the air. You may say the island is small, but Oda's scale was always off the charts, for example with Zou having a confirmed radius of 5km as well despite not really looking vast visually.
No idea which clash was stronger than the other, the point was skysplit is not by default the superior clash. Big Mom and Kaidou's skysplit didn't wipe out anyone even close to a 5km radius, same goes for Shanks and WB's skysplit. The only contender rn to me is WB and Roger's clash. It is very likely Oda is avoiding giving skysplit to non pirates, doesn't make Garp or Harald any weaker than rooftop Luffy.
 
He wasn't waiting for Nika to awaken to get the OP, I think it's more that he wanted Nika to awaken so he can be an obstacle for Luffy and a way for Luffy to prove his meddle. Shanks knew he couldn't be the Pirate King anymore once he gave up his arm and lost the fruit to Luffy
The Roger Pirates said they were too soon. That’s pretty obviously referring to them needing to wait for Nika to emerge
 
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