Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1159 Spoilers Discussion
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It hasn’t really dawned on me until now how significant it that we’re finally getting a flashback with pre-revolutionary Dragon. I think it’s likely that in the next arc we’re gonna get that long-awaited big Monkey D. Dragon deep dive that explains his whole family history from Garp joining the marines up to Luffy’s birth and Dragon founding the revolutionaries. Real “we’re in the final saga” type shit
Blackbeard's about to gura punch Garling straight to his face and takes Imu as well by collateral. @Blackbeard
We not ready to see young Linlin go crazy with em speed feats and her Homies clowning all these plain hakimen who cant hurt fire or lightning 
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@Steven @Djordje @park_min young @Philosoraptor @Jokerr @MarineHQ
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You know, we shit on Dragon all the time for not doing anything, but at least he saw how disgusting the CDs in GV were and left the Marines
And Garp got mad at him for that…
Imagine your son seeing the WG corruption firsthand while just being 17 years old and decided to stop serving them on his own
And you, his father, do NOT approve of this…
Remind me again how Garp is supposed to be a “le good guy hero” again?
And Garp got mad at him for that…
Imagine your son seeing the WG corruption firsthand while just being 17 years old and decided to stop serving them on his own
And you, his father, do NOT approve of this…
Remind me again how Garp is supposed to be a “le good guy hero” again?
You know, we shit on Dragon all the time for not doing anything, but at least he saw how disgusting the CDs in GV were and left the Marines
And Garp got mad at him for that…
Imagine your son seeing the WG corruption firsthand while just being 17 years old and decided to stop serving them on his own
And you, his father, do NOT approve of this…
Remind me again how Garp is supposed to be a “le good guy hero” again?
And Garp got mad at him for that…
Imagine your son seeing the WG corruption firsthand while just being 17 years old and decided to stop serving them on his own
And you, his father, do NOT approve of this…
Remind me again how Garp is supposed to be a “le good guy hero” again?
Not because he left the Marines
if the one time oda showed us "Rocks pirates evil rampage" and it was them looting a religious scam operation, that kind of warrants looking at Rocks pirates criminal activities a bit more skeptically.
Rocks was erased from history by the wg. Who's to say they also didn't exaggerate their evils and slander them to extremes?
And oda is humanizing Xebec too much in this flashback. I doubt it's a coincidence that their only shown exploit was kind of "good" or morally ambiguous at worst.
Also, Narrator can lie, or be misinformed too. What if the narrator was repeating the wg propaganda and wasn't just stating facts?
Unreliable narrator is a thing in literature.
Rocks was erased from history by the wg. Who's to say they also didn't exaggerate their evils and slander them to extremes?
And oda is humanizing Xebec too much in this flashback. I doubt it's a coincidence that their only shown exploit was kind of "good" or morally ambiguous at worst.
Also, Narrator can lie, or be misinformed too. What if the narrator was repeating the wg propaganda and wasn't just stating facts?
Unreliable narrator is a thing in literature.
You know, we shit on Dragon all the time for not doing anything, but at least he saw how disgusting the CDs in GV were and left the Marines
And Garp got mad at him for that…
Imagine your son seeing the WG corruption firsthand while just being 17 years old and decided to stop serving them on his own
And you, his father, do NOT approve of this…
Remind me again how Garp is supposed to be a “le good guy hero” again?
And Garp got mad at him for that…
Imagine your son seeing the WG corruption firsthand while just being 17 years old and decided to stop serving them on his own
And you, his father, do NOT approve of this…
Remind me again how Garp is supposed to be a “le good guy hero” again?
Garp the fist? More like Garp the bitch.
You know, we shit on Dragon all the time for not doing anything, but at least he saw how disgusting the CDs in GV were and left the Marines
And Garp got mad at him for that…
Imagine your son seeing the WG corruption firsthand while just being 17 years old and decided to stop serving them on his own
And you, his father, do NOT approve of this…
Remind me again how Garp is supposed to be a “le good guy hero” again?
And Garp got mad at him for that…
Imagine your son seeing the WG corruption firsthand while just being 17 years old and decided to stop serving them on his own
And you, his father, do NOT approve of this…
Remind me again how Garp is supposed to be a “le good guy hero” again?
How many years after God Valley?
You know, we shit on Dragon all the time for not doing anything, but at least he saw how disgusting the CDs in GV were and left the Marines
And Garp got mad at him for that…
Imagine your son seeing the WG corruption firsthand while just being 17 years old and decided to stop serving them on his own
And you, his father, do NOT approve of this…
Remind me again how Garp is supposed to be a “le good guy hero” again?
And Garp got mad at him for that…
Imagine your son seeing the WG corruption firsthand while just being 17 years old and decided to stop serving them on his own
And you, his father, do NOT approve of this…
Remind me again how Garp is supposed to be a “le good guy hero” again?
How would I know anything about that? The only time someone from the government in the manga talked about Xebec was Sengoku, and he didn't really dwell on his morality much at all.
Oda is humanizing Xebec because he's a human. He also humanized Doflamingo in his flashback, he showed us how he lost everything, was tortured, truly cared about his mom who died, and even really cared about his little brother before killing him. He humanized Kaido in his flashback by literally showing him saving the last member of a race that was genocided by the WG, not wanting his country to be slaves to the WG and that his own country betrayed him. We see Big Mom humanized in her flashback because she had an objectively good goal of ending all racism. That doesn't mean what all these characters went on to do as characters was not evil.
Why would the OP narrator randomly become unreliable 1100 plus chapters into the story? Aside from retcons, the narrator doesn't randomly make up things or slander people for going against the government. Dragon is the most wanted criminal and Whitebeard/Shanks are up there, but the narrator never went out of their way to slander them with fake news. Plus, given the fact that Xebec was erased from history, we don't know if there was even propaganda about him either.
Oda is humanizing Xebec because he's a human. He also humanized Doflamingo in his flashback, he showed us how he lost everything, was tortured, truly cared about his mom who died, and even really cared about his little brother before killing him. He humanized Kaido in his flashback by literally showing him saving the last member of a race that was genocided by the WG, not wanting his country to be slaves to the WG and that his own country betrayed him. We see Big Mom humanized in her flashback because she had an objectively good goal of ending all racism. That doesn't mean what all these characters went on to do as characters was not evil.
Why would the OP narrator randomly become unreliable 1100 plus chapters into the story? Aside from retcons, the narrator doesn't randomly make up things or slander people for going against the government. Dragon is the most wanted criminal and Whitebeard/Shanks are up there, but the narrator never went out of their way to slander them with fake news. Plus, given the fact that Xebec was erased from history, we don't know if there was even propaganda about him either.
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