Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1159 Spoilers Discussion

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And was already pretty hinted.

First by Gaban sensing Imu's haki and remembering:



And then Xebec's sword:



And now there is a grand total of ablute zero chances Garp and Roger are going to prevent Xebec from saving his bloody wife and kid LOL.
People would have to be crazy to think that.

And as you said, now Gunko is even there in GV.

Just my opinion but it would a hell of a tragedy if Imu somehow manages to possess Rocks to make him go mental and thats why Roger and Garp had to team up.
 
And was already pretty hinted.

First by Gaban sensing Imu's haki and remembering:



And then Xebec's sword:



And now there is a grand total of ablute zero chances Garp and Roger are going to prevent Xebec from saving his bloody wife and kid LOL.
People would have to be crazy to think that.

And as you said, now Gunko is even there in GV.
My only hope is that at some point more Holy Knights get called back and fight this arc.

Seemingly, the WG is having a battle currently on 2 fronts and what I would love personally is see the arc play out where some Holy Knights are on Elbaf for Imu and the rest are fighting the Revolutionaries in Mariejoa.

Mainly given things stated this arc, I do hope Shamrock in the least returns since he straight up tells Loki to come find him when he's free.

But even then the opportunity to parallel Dragon fighting Garling and Luffy fighting Shamrock would be cool, the latter given the fact that him looking like Shanks would cause some conflict.

Idk how I feel about Gunko because even though its Imu technically, Oda generally have Luffy wail on women especially victims. I dont see how this fight becomes at all that serious or "good" given that. Plus, at worst Imu loses her and doesnt get resolved clearly.

Just how I feel about this arc currently.
 

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also coming out as a d1 garp hater. garp u know something is funny with god valley and you let your young son (17) go as his first mission...your son who doesn't liked hurting people??? hate that old man. oh and you finally show up when roger name is mentioned...you should have gotta your ass up for dragon ugh. also i am no longer a dragon hater. sorry i ever called that man a bum
 
Just my opinion but it would a hell of a tragedy if Imu somehow manages to possess Rocks and thats why Roger and Garp had to mean up.
Probably going to be Rocks seeing his wife and kid getting taken away and trying to get to them but having too many enemies to get past and Imu takes advantage of that by trying to convince him to make a deal with him to amp his power and give him the strength and speed to bulldoze them and get his family back
 
also coming out as a d1 garp hater. garp u know something is funny with god valley and you let your son go as his first mission...your son who doesn't liked hurting people??? hate that old man. oh and you finally show up when roger name is mentioned...you should have gotta your ass up for dragon ugh. also i am no longer a dragon hater. sorry i ever called that man a bum
tbf garp not caring that rocks was there and about to kill all the CDs at least shows he's not as much of a CD dog as people believe
although it is weird considering that, like you said, his 17 year old son was likely going to get caught in the crossfire of rocks vs the CDs
 
Problem with Ouchako is he feels too weak for Rayleigh.

IMO people are putting too much thought into it. Oda established Shiki having a rival for seemingly no reason but matchup. If Ray doesn’t fight Shiki and Gaban fighting silver axe, the introduction no longer makes sense imo.

I think it’s likely that Shiki would try and kidnap Shakky for himself seeing that he’s shown to be a known double crosser in the Rox pirates so Ray saving her from him would be enough narrative imo.
I hear you and you make a good point on Shiki v Ray with regards to the bolded bit, but it doesn't really feel special given his relationship with Shakky. Shiki doesn't really have as much weight in this plot line as Ouchoku does.

Defeating one of the gooners fighting to claim Shakky vs Defeating the one who kidnapped her in the first place?

Narrative-wise I feel if Oda intends to give Ray some sort of special achievement on God Valley he has to be the one that takes out Ouchoku.

Also although I don't think Ouchoku is as strong as Shiki, he's one of the named pirates in Rocks flashback and also a significant stepping stone for Blackbeard with regards to him becoming a Yonko and also claiming Hachinosu for himself. He's clearly not weak.
Perception that is weak is simply coz he doesn't have a cuul design but he's clearly not.

That said, I'm not saying Ray has to fight him to extreme diff either.


Ray vs Garling feels much more spot on.
Can't see it tbh. Only logic behind this matchup is Garling wanting to win Shakky as price but that's everybody on God Valley.
Garling is simply an attractive matchup to folks coz he's strong. However Garling's role on God Valley is far bigger than Shakky. He potentially has ties to the capture of the Davy Clan, also the Shanks/Shamrock plot line, Whitebeard in addtiion to being the so called Champion of God Valley. Ray v Garling imo is far-fetched but I digress.
 

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speaking of law...it's kinda funny how his clan/family of d were so lowkey compared to the rest. I guess Saul's family was also lowkey in the world but yeah...the Trafalgar d's aint shit really lol.
 
tbf garp not caring that rocks was there and about to kill all the CDs at least shows he's not as much of a CD dog as people believe
although it is weird considering that, like you said, his 17 year old son was likely going to get caught in the crossfire of rocks vs the CDs
This is the guy who tossed his pre schooler grandson into a forest of wild animals to toughen him up
 
People need to remind themselves what happened to Saturn when he fucked up. Garling was promoted at least 2 times after God Valley which means he succeeded in whatever gave him the Champion title, and didn't disappoint Imu.

If Garling vs Rayleigh happens over Shakky then Ray ends up in the dirt with a scar.
 
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